Psychics - Aussie skeptic says it like it is

[lionking]

So can anyone do this buzz, or is it restricted to special people like you? Old Bob earlier suggested that you had to be a pure blood aborigine. Are you?

Is Australia particularly special in this regard? Or would it also work in places in Europe and Africa where there has been human habitation for hundreds of thousands of years?

In the absence of any verification, your experience is an amusing dinner party anecdote. Nothing more.

 

[arthwollipot]

Who we are.

Hi - I'm arthwollipot. Who are you?

Where we came from.

Well, when a mummy and a daddy love each other very much...

And where do we go (if we do) after this life.

Define "we" in this context.

The occult ways kept the ab---natives alive.

Goodness, he learned something from that thread!

Always peel onions under running water. This avoids the problem you describe.

Waste of water. Drought, you know. Stage 5 water restrictions. You need to just suck it up.

It's OK to say "Aborigines" Old Bob. It's calling them "Abbos" that people in the dowsing thread objected to.

The preferred term these days is "indigenous australians".

The ability to pick up the most subtle traces of human presence is common to most people.
Have you ever walked into your home and thought "someone has been here" even though there is no physical evidence?
I does happen.

No, buzz. I believe that I can safely say that this has never happened to me. Has it occurred to you that it may just be your overactive imagination?

 

[buzz lightyear]

So can anyone do this buzz, or is it restricted to special people like you? Old Bob earlier suggested that you had to be a pure blood aborigine. Are you?

Is Australia particularly special in this regard? Or would it also work in places in Europe and Africa where there has been human habitation for hundreds of thousands of years?

In the absence of any verification, your experience is an amusing dinner party anecdote. Nothing more.

Yes lionking it happens everywhere and anyone can do it.
You just have to be in the right frame of mind.
And that frame of mind is the hardest to achieve,....... no thought.

None of the endless mind chatter that pervades most of our lives, just the stillness of the now. I don't get it often, but in the right place and time it produces some wonderful results.

And no, I am not a full blood aborigine, in fact I am pretty certain there is no aboriginal blood in my family. A little Maori perhaps, a lot of Celt, and a touch of Norman. Pure bred mongerl.

 

[buzz lightyear]

No, buzz. I believe that I can safely say that this has never happened to me. Has it occurred to you that it may just be your overactive imagination?

Wow arthwollipot, that was just about a case of synchronized posting!

COOL

 

[Mashuna]

Yes lionking it happens everywhere and anyone can do it.
You just have to be in the right frame of mind.
And that frame of mind is the hardest to achieve,....... no thought.

Maybe if you came out of that particular frame of mind before you posted, you'd have more success?

 

[The Fool]

The blood flow control to me is beyond normal and any thing outside "normal" gets called woo or impossible.

I would call it imaginary rather than beyond normal. Please show a single shred of evidence to back up this laughable claim.

 

[TjW]

The blood flow control to me is beyond normal and any thing outside "normal" gets called woo or impossible. Doesn't that apply to six sense abilities and get renamed the occult.? After all what is the occult?, isn't it doing things out side the square. Water witching and burnt at the stake comes to mind with Fizz screaming "Burn the crazy" with ch. 7 filming. (what a sick bunch)

No. The occult deals with things outside the "natural" laws of physics. (That's why it's called the "super-natural".)

If anything has a scientifically explainable basis, it is not "occult" or "super-natural".

Also, this points out once again the uselessness of the occult. If it only works for "real full bloods", what's the point? If true, it's a neat physiological adaptation, but useless for anyone else. A sleeping bag works for everyone. They don't have to believe in it, they just have to get inside.

 

[arthwollipot]

Wow arthwollipot, that was just about a case of synchronized posting!

COOL

Deja vu. The unnerving sensation that you have been somewhere, or done something, before.

 

[Old Bob]

I know this is a waste of time, but I'll tell it anyway, Some may under stand. My daughter went to England and stood looking down into a valley cluttered with houses, she was describing how it was to her friend only to be over heard by a local. The local said come with me and took her to a medieval painting of the scene she stated. She had never been overseas in this life time. One for Buzz.

 

[lionking]

Yeah, more gold plated evidence. For once you have said something factual. It is a waste of time.

 

[lionking]

Deja vu. The unnerving sensation that you have been somewhere, or done something, before.

Actually there may be something to this wolli. Deja Vu by CS&N has just started playing on my ipod. Coincidence or fate.........we will never know.

 

[buzz lightyear]

Actually there may be something to this wolli. Deja Vu by CS&N has just started playing on my ipod. Coincidence or fate.........we will never know.

Morphic Resonance maybe?


http://www.sheldrake.org/papers/Morphic/morphic_intro.html

 

[lionking]

Maybe, but why is eminem now playing?

Anyway, this is as far from the OP as possible. Anything more need to be said about Fitzy?

 

[buzz lightyear]

Anyway, this is as far from the OP as possible. Anything more need to be said about Fitzy?

Aw Jeez, its been good wandering all over the place with this thread, do we have to go back to talking about old bullet brain.

Couldn't we do someone slightly more interesting like, say, Dame Edna or even Barry Hall, anything but Fitzy.

 

[Old Bob]

Fitzy on my no feed list when things get bad. Let him eat that pig skin he loved chasing around. Perhaps Little Johnie will look after him.

 

[Old Bob]

Also, this points out once again the uselessness of the occult. If it only works for "real full bloods", what's the point? If true, it's a neat physiological adaptation, but useless for anyone else. A sleeping bag works for everyone. They don't have to believe in it, they just have to get inside.

Who said "the occult only works for full bloods" out of context, the blood temp control was what was meant not all the occult as you fully know. Now the banter my be fun but what Buzz said I know is true. To under stand all this one needs to let go and have a spirit. A good way to train is to learn to dowse. Most of us are lucky spirit wise, but I would en bet on Fitzy. No spirit no dowse.

 

[politas]

I know this is a waste of time, but I'll tell it anyway, Some may under stand. My daughter went to England and stood looking down into a valley cluttered with houses, she was describing how it was to her friend only to be over heard by a local. The local said come with me and took her to a medieval painting of the scene she stated. She had never been overseas in this life time. One for Buzz.

Maybe she saw the painting in a book years ago and recognised the permanent landscape features subconsciously.

That seems far more likely. Or had your daughter also never seen any books?

 

[politas]

Now the banter my be fun but what Buzz said I know is true.

What, the idiotic bit where he claimed Australia was a harsher climate than Antarctica?

I heartily doubt anyone could survive a night in the Antarctic by "slowing down their blood", no matter how "pure" their genes are.

 

[Moochie]

You have a long road ahead of you, as an Australian, if you want to know this land, politas.

And if one day you find yourself sitting in the red dust at Uluru with tears streaming down your cheeks you will begin to understand.

Your journey will have just begun.

A bit melodramatic there, aren't you?

I sit in the backyard of the little patch of Australia we bought and the tears just stream down my face, for the simple reason that the place is a shambles and I can't muster the wherewithal to get out the mower and other utensils to turn the "wilderness" into some semblance of a garden.

Color me procrastinated.


M.

 

[Moochie]

"C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; C++ makes it harder, but when you do, it blows away your whole leg." by Bjarne Stroustrup

"Women might be able to fake orgasms. But men can fake a whole relationship." by Sharon Stone

"I've had a wonderful time, but this wasn't it." by Groucho Marx

Now that we've got some random quotes out of the way, what has any of that got to do with debunking so-called psychics? Okay, maybe the Groucho Marx one is applicable to watching psychics at work.

What has Edward (or any other stage psychic) done that can't be explained (or hasn't been explained)? What exactly did Fitzsimons say that you disagree with? Anything?

Sorry to keep dragging this back on topic. Actually, not really.

Matronly Duchess, all in a flap: Why, I didn't come here to be insulted!

Groucho (as Hackenbush, I think): No? Where do you usually go?


M.


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