Psychics - Aussie skeptic says it like it is

[buzz lightyear]

The sulphur wouldn't have happened to be from the diesel. Which contains sulphur normally not much of a suprirse.

No Seanrmr the sulphur was from unleaded, which I believe contains only traces.
This is why I found the incident interesting.

I was returning from on of my ventures into the outworld, and the way I detect if I have pick up any odd entities is the variations in the way I perceive the world.
This entity had the ability to analyse fuel by the odour it emitted when burnt.
Never before had I been able to detect burnt sulphur in fuel but can now.

Now where were we??

Ah yes Fitzy's recent trip to medieval England, yes.

 

[AndyD]

Do you lot think that's the whole story and the only one on odd things.

Oh, I am absolutely certain it isn't your one and only story of strange things that happen. I am also certain that when people ask you questions, like how you determined which paranormal option to apply, you won't answer. A bit like the Sunrise crew refusing to give Fitzsimons a straight answer eh?

No Seanrmr the sulphur was from unleaded, which I believe contains only traces.
This is why I found the incident interesting.

It contains enough to make hydrogen sulphide that you can smell from four or five car lengths away. Hardly insignificant.

 

[buzz lightyear]

A bit like the Sunrise crew refusing to give Fitzsimons a straight answer eh?

Well "flush my dunny" thats what we were talking about, old bone head Fitzy and the Sunrise crew!

Fitzy and the Sunrise crew;
Fitzy and the Sunrise crew;

Fitzy and the Sunrise crew;

Must........ r..e..m...b...e...r.

 

[Mobyseven]

Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words...

 

[Robin]

Peter Fitzsimmons? Knox Grammar old boy with an arts degree from Sydney University majoring in political science. Speaks French, Italian and Spanish and has written a number of books, many of them bestsellers but also highly regarded by critics.

Yep, a real meat-head.

 

[Brian-M]

Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words...

Only when it has a 3.906kb file-size.
Then it's literally worth a thousand words .

 

[arthwollipot]

I also find it difficult to believe that she described the scene exactly as it would appear in a "medieval painting". Medieval landscape paintings are known for a lack of proper perspective; the technical aspects of drawing landscapes were not considered as important in medieval times.

I think the term "medieval" was used in ignorance to mean "really old", rather than in its technical sense. The painting was probably renaissance or later, especially if the scene it depicted was recognisable.

 

[buzz lightyear]

It contains enough to make hydrogen sulphide that you can smell from four or five car lengths away. Hardly insignificant.

Well AndyD, I may not be an organic chemist but last time I looked it was sulphur dioxide comming out of a cars exhaust pipe.

Hydrogen Sulphide is "rotten egg" gas, the stuff that oozes out of swamps.
Forgive me if I am wrong, but I cant be bothered looking it up.

But hey, its your thread you can have whatever sort of bad smell you want.

 

[arthwollipot]

Hydrogen sulphide is made in cars that don't have catalytic converters installed. Usually older cars that were manufactured at around the time that unleaded petrol was first made available. Some of us are old enough to remember how rotten-eggy the streets smelled at that time.

 

[Old Bob]

AndyD, you say I don't answer questions on psyhic stuff. how does one go about explaining when you knock the simple stuff? If I said we have spoken with a alien entity would you believe me,no I don't think so. I don't have the way to explain a voice in one's mind or how my daughter can see past scenes. Or a spirit guide telling us not to buy that lot of cheese because the plastic has leached into it. As for looking up to people who have letters after their name, I could use your tactic and say maybe they bought them on the net or just made it up. Anyway most are a waste of time and letters after your name won't feed you or teach you how to live out west as we may have to as things go to hell. Like I said earlier Fitz and his lot won't get feed by me. Mainly because he joined the freedom takers by being anti gun, funny isn't it when he writes about honor and war. Still a meat head to me.

 

[arthwollipot]

 

[tyr_13]

Wait, so you base his being a 'meathead' on him holding a different view on guns than you? You don't trust his degree because degrees can be faked, yet psychic stuff being faked too isn't an argument against that?

Fitz's resume is far more than his degree(s) as was laid out already in this thread.

Doublespeak BA working out for you?

 

[Old Bob]

Wait, so you base his being a 'meathead' on him holding a different view on guns than you? You don't trust his degree because degrees can be faked, yet psychic stuff being faked too isn't an argument against that?

Fitz's resume is far more than his degree(s) as was laid out already in this thread.

Doublespeak BA working out for you?

I speak one language does that count, and yes all manner of thing can be fake. Why are footballers so important, I would think a wheat farmer or any producer Truckee or distributor would rate far higher because they have done something. Chase a pig skin and mouth off in different tongues and your a wise gov. guiding talking head. These people are unnessary like most shiny bum pen pushers.

 

[Mashuna]

I speak one language does that count, and yes all manner of thing can be fake. Why are footballers so important, I would think a wheat farmer or any producer Truckee or distributor would rate far higher because they have done something. Chase a pig skin and mouth off in different tongues and your a wise gov. guiding talking head. These people are unnessary like most shiny bum pen pushers.

I think you're doing yourself down here, Old Bob. You say you speak one language, and you're obviously learning English too. So well done.

 

[arthwollipot]

I speak one language does that count, and yes all manner of thing can be fake. Why are footballers so important, I would think a wheat farmer or any producer Truckee or distributor would rate far higher because they have done something. Chase a pig skin and mouth off in different tongues and your a wise gov. guiding talking head. These people are unnessary like most shiny bum pen pushers.

While I agree that footballers and cricketers are grossly overpaid, I think you misunderstand the role of shiny bum pen pushers in the operation of the country. In fact, the wheat farmer would not be able to farm and harvest his wheat if it weren't for the shiny bum pen pushers in the Department of Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry. The trucker would not be able to truck that wheat to the refineries without the shiny bum pen pushers of the Department of Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development and Local Government. They wouldn't be able to export the wheat to China without the shiny bum pen pushers of the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade. And what's more, the shiny bum pen pushers make up a tiny part of the workforce of the country, yet without them the country would collapse into anarchy.

The shiny bum pen pushers are the folks who make this country work. Don't you be disrespecting the shiny bum pen pushers.

 

[Old Bob]

You must be one? Once we had one pen pusher to seven workers, now its about even. Also that was before the labour saving computers so now you know who to blame for the mess we are in. It's your fault. Either computers are a hindrance or pen pushers are bludgers. Love buro-craps.

 

[tyr_13]

I speak one language does that count, and yes all manner of thing can be fake. Why are footballers so important, I would think a wheat farmer or any producer Truckee or distributor would rate far higher because they have done something. Chase a pig skin and mouth off in different tongues and your a wise gov. guiding talking head. These people are unnessary like most shiny bum pen pushers.

If any of them wrote articulate, well researched books, spent years in university, and has demonstrated superior reasoning skills, then sure, they would rate the same. But I know a lot of moron farmers and truck drivers too, so I don't know why they would automatically rate higher than football players.

Wait, let me guess, you are one. That is why you think their opinion would matter more.

 

[buzz lightyear]

If any of them wrote articulate, well researched books, spent years in university, and has demonstrated superior reasoning skills, then sure, they would rate the same. But I know a lot of moron farmers and truck drivers too, so I don't know why they would automatically rate higher than football players.

Wait, let me guess, you are one. That is why you think their opinion would matter more.

Well tyr, if I wanted an opinion on the real world I would ask someone who spent most of their time observing the real world.

If I wanted an opinion on the inside of an office or what computer screen was best I would ask a "shiny ass".

You spend your life looking at the seasons, the weather, the soil, the trees, the animals, life and death as most farmers do, you get a good grip on the reality that we live in.

And if you have a look at these "observers of reality" you will see that they are beginning to acknowledge Bio dynamic Farming as a solution to the degradation of their lands.

And guess what tyr, its a system of land management with its foundations in the "occult".

So do the maths, tyr:

Meat head shoots his mouth off about something he knows nothing about = forget it.
Farmer says their is more to it than meets the eye = take notice.

And Old Bob, thanks for the PM, good to meet someone with similar views.

But as a holder of a NSW class A, B Firearms licence I have to disagree with you on recent changes to the gun laws.

There is no place in our society for for firearms except in the hands of those who are trained, competent and of good character. They are not a toy for idiots to have "fun" with on weekends.
Or a potential death threat in the wardrobe when dad comes home drunk, or the son want to show off in front of his mates.

Sorry old cobber have to disagree with you on that one.

 

[tyr_13]

Well tyr, if I wanted an opinion on the real world I would ask someone who spent most of their time observing the real world.

If I wanted an opinion on the inside of an office or what computer screen was best I would ask a "shiny ass".

You spend your life looking at the seasons, the weather, the soil, the trees, the animals, life and death as most farmers do, you get a good grip on the reality that we live in.

And if you have a look at these "observers of reality" you will see that they are beginning to acknowledge Bio dynamic Farming as a solution to the degradation of their lands.

And guess what tyr, its a system of land management with its foundations in the "occult".

So do the maths, tyr:

Meat head shoots his mouth off about something he knows nothing about = forget it.
Farmer says their is more to it than meets the eye = take notice.

You're simply wrong on more than one level. Scientists are consummate observers and testers of reality and they (90+% of them anyway) agree with the 'meathead'. So you are wrong that farmers have an monopoly on knowledge of 'reality'. Farmers spend a lot of time observing one small part of reality for the most part (although there are a ton of scientist-farmers). Farms would have a good grasp on, as you put it, "the seasons, the weather, the soil, the trees, the animals," as you say, but in what world does that relate to 'psychic' scam artist?

You're wrong on biodynamics being based in the 'occult'. The 'occult' of it was all the parts of tradition that turned out to be completely useless. Researchers (many of them farmers, many of them 'shiny asses') determined, and are still determining, what works.

You're wrong assuming Fitz knows nothing about these 'psychic' scam artists. He shows that he knows at least the basics. This has been gone over in this thread already. You can just reread.

You're wrong to assume that farmers know better about psychic effects than anyone else. There is no more a tie to what they do than what most other jobs do with the 'occult'.

And don't try to accuse me of not understanding farmers and the land. That's a stupid road to go down. I have pictures.

 

[arthwollipot]

You must be one?

No, I work in private industry. But I do work in Canberra, so you've got me there.