PS Audio Noise Harvester

MRC_Hans said:
Most of us are, although probably not to your extent.

Another difference is, some of us actually know what we are talking about. We don't just blunder along, like you.

Hans
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If the skeptics knew what they were talking about they wouldn't use crappy systems plugged into the wall. What is even worse is that they think it sounds good.

MRC_Hans said:
Unlike what you think, you have a strong imagination of your own. And it's playing big tricks on you
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If someone says something sounds bad and another says something sounds good, who is the one having the strong imagination? Skeptics are having placebo but they don't even know about it.
 
Dan O. said:
You probably haven't heard of acoustic foam. But then why would you want to know about anything that actually has a scientific basis behind it.
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The longer distance the soundwaves travel the worse the quality gets, it's pretty obvious. Even dust and humidity matters. To get the most neutral sound you need headphones.
 
EternalSceptic said:
So you are saying the recording of a concert sounds better that the real concert itself?
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Not if you want neutral sound. But if you want emphasized detail it could sound better.

If you record each instrument and mix them together it sounds better than a real life concert.


EternalSceptic said:
Man, you have no clue whatsoever. Are you aware of the fact that good musicians adjust their way of playing to the rooms properties, that making music is always (if done properly) an interaction between the musicians intellect and mood, the properties of the place where she/he plays (not only acoustically, everything plays a role), the mood and reaction of the audience, the properties of the instrument he/she plays and.. and..

And it is an interaction which works in both directions.
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They don't listen to what they are hearing, they are listening to their imagination which changes based on their mood. If you remove the music they wouldn't even notice because they are so deep inside their placebo.

EternalSceptic said:
But you can, of course, find your satisfaction as well using a couple of wave generators and playing around with frequencies and waveforms. Just don't expect _me_ to enjoy that.
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Wave generated music is the way to go, everything else is colored.
 
Paulhoff said:
So we now should look at things thru a camera and not be there in real life because there are all kinds of other things going on that have nothing to do with what we are looking at, and also in the real world SH-T doesn't just look bad, it stinks.
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Imagine you being outside and the wind is blowing sand into your eyes so you can't see properly. If you put a camera in front of your face you see better because there isn't any external interference.

It's the same thing with audio. The audio system sounds better than real life itself.


Paulhoff said:
You just like to contradict yourself don’t you. By the way, I haven't used anything with vacuum tubes many years before you where born for audio.
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People who don't contradict themselves are narrow-minded and have false beliefs.
 
ExtremeSkeptic said:
The longer distance the soundwaves travel the worse the quality gets, it's pretty obvious. Even dust and humidity matters. To get the most neutral sound you need headphones.
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:dl:
Long distance within a roommmnmmmmmmmmmm

Paul

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ExtremeSkeptic said:
It's the same thing with audio. The audio system sounds better than real life itself.
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I idea behind HI-FI my young friend IS NOT, and I say again, IS NOT to sound better than real life, but to have fidelity (faithfulness) to the original sound.

Paul

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ExtremeSkeptic said:
People who don't contradict themselves are narrow-minded and have false beliefs.
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OH, please point out a false belief that you have proof of as you type on that false keyboard, computer and internet that are all built on that false beliefs that are in those false books.........

Paul

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You really don't know how dogmatic and religious you sound.
 
Sherman Bay said:
I know I'm going to regret asking this, but...
  1. What is the process you use to "find the truth"? Does it bear any relevance to how mankind's knowledge has progressed in the last 1000 years or so?
  2. I assume that not all books are "flawed". What is the criterion you use to determine if a specific book is?
  3. Is your opinion on any one topic the only one in the world that is right, regardless of the knowledge of others?
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1. Mankind's knowledge is flawed and will always be. Would you take the advice of a monkey?

2. All books are flawed and will always be. Would you read a book written by a monkey?

3. All opinions are flawed, that's why they call it opinion. I don't have any opinion while I'm searching for truth. When skeptics are faced with truth their opinion is that they don't like the truth, so they ignore it to suit their own beliefs. The only way to understand the real truth is to face it without any opinion at all. You need to be neutral.

That's what I do with my audio system, I make it neutral so I can hear more truth (low-level detail). I don't care about the music because I don't have any emotions to "enjoy" it. The only thing I enjoy is finding the truth no matter what it is. If truth is painful torture I would still enjoy it more than a fake, happy and ignorant skeptic life.
 
Paulhoff said:
I idea behind HI-FI my young friend IS NOT, and I say again, IS NOT to sound better than real life, but to have fidelity (faithfulness) to the original sound.

Paul

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HI-FI was invented by old man with crappy audio system who didn't know what was possible.

The future of audio will sound better than real life because you can create all the sounds digitally. No microphones will be used anymore. The sounds from real life will be distorted compared to the audio system because they have a longer way to travel.
 
Paulhoff said:
OH, please point out a false belief that you have proof of as you type on that false keyboard, computer and internet that are all built on that false beliefs that are in those false books.........

Paul

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You really don't know how dogmatic and religious you sound.
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The false belief of skeptics is that they think the Noise Harvester doesn't improve the audio system. They aren't even interested to find proof of it because they have already made up their minds.
 
MRC_Hans said:
If you are not interestd in music, then why does sound reproduction matter at all?
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I'm not interested in music, I just use it to listen to my audio system. I don't like to hear muddy detail so I tweak my audio system to remove the mud in front. It's like having a painting covered up in mud and I clean it up so I can see what is there.
But skeptics do the opposite, they are afraid of the unknown so they keep the painting covered up. They are also afraid that another person will find the painting and clean it up, because then the other person would know more than him. The big headed skeptic doesn't like when someone knows more than him so he just throws more mud into the painting, then he destroys it.

It's not hard to figure out who are the most evil people in the world.

MRC_Hans said:
Unlike what you think, you have a strong imagination of your own. And it's playing big tricks on you ;).
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You said you listen to the improvements of the audio system with the music paused, guess who is having the strong imagination.


MRC_Hans said:
Noooo, it isn't. It is someone who believes in lies from people who make money from useless audio tricks. Someone who knows nothing of sound reproduction tecknology. Someone who isn't even interested in music. Someone who lives in a small crappy room, filled up with useless gadgets.

Someone......

Hans
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I only believe in lies if they end up being truth in the end.

If the gadgets didn't already exist I would have made them myself. Half of my ideas aren't manufactured yet.

I have found that different ambient temperature affects the audio components differently. I am waiting until someone manufactures a temperature controlled box for the audio system. It also needs to be shielded and have a display on front which shows the input and output EMI. With the display you can choose the ambient temperature and humidity inside the box. With multiple boxes you can mix the flavors in the whole audio system.
 
The lunacy goes on, the lunacy goes on
Stupidity keeps pounding BS to his brain
La de da de de, la de da de da

PS is now his rage, uh huh
Audio has turned the page, uh huh
The Noise is the current thing, uh huh
Harvester is his newborn king, uh huh

Chorus

The audio store is the snake-oil mart, uh huh
Being illiterate still breaks his heart, uh huh
And uneducated he marches off to burn bookstores
Electrically headsets keep deep base scores

Paul

:) :) :)

La de da de de, la de da de da :rolleyes:



 
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ExtremeSkeptic said:
If someone says something sounds bad and another says something sounds good, who is the one having the strong imagination?
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Either one, or both. Now, tell me: If one person is basing his position solely on subjective listening, and the other is backing his with an actual knowledge about the technology, who is the imaginative one?

Hans
 
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