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"Progressives" Win Big Over Establishment Democrats

Brainster said:
Some more leftism from Ocasio-Cortez:



I hear a lot of bitching from people saying that Trump wants to take us back to the 1950s. From appearances, Ocasio-Cortez would like to take us back to 1917.
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She'll have to go a lot farther back than that , if she wants to get to a time before capitalism..

But yeah, she probably just wants to go back to a time of bloody revolution.
 
Obama endorses a whole bunch of Democrats but there is one prominent name left off the list:

Obama's list of 81 endorsements, which includes 48 women, notably did not include the rising star of the Democratic party, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York.
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Ocasio-Cortez has been traveling around the country, attending rallies for fellow progressives running in unlikely hotbeds of socialism like Wichita:

On Friday afternoon, twenty-four days after she won the Democratic primary for New York’s Fourteenth Congressional District and became an emblem of left-wing hope, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez arrived in Wichita, Kansas, to open a political rally that Bernie Sanders would close. The event was intended to boost the profile of a Democratic primary candidate named James Thompson, an ex-Republican running as a Sanders-style outsider in Kansas’s Fourth Congressional District. It seemed a sign of this kinetic, unpredictable summer in liberal politics that the way to enliven a Democratic campaign in conservative south-central Kansas was to bring two democratic socialists from the outer boroughs to town.
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Her endorsement of other candidates is apparently doing very well in attracting donors:

Welder, running in Kansas’ 3rd congressional district which is currently represented by incumbent Kevin Yoder (R-KS), raised $55,951 from online contributions in the week since Ocasio-Cortez ousted veteran Democrat Joe Crowley. The week before, they had $17,353 from online contributions, according to campaign manager Shawn Borich.
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It will be interesting to see if she can get those candidates through the primary.
 
Obama would vote for a "moderate Republican" before he endorses an actual progressive. And the subtle fear-mongering over Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in this thread is just amusing; I hope it's sarcasm. To hear some of you tell it, the nation could handle Trump's reforms just fine, it's just overblown,...but it wouldn't last a year under an actual leftist, a "democratic socialist".
 
It’s a bit early for this level of OCDS dontcha think?

Seriously, the GOP is rampant with rabid racists in their power structure and you wring your hands over a single unelected progressive candidate.
 
Can't have the Overton window moving left now, that would be a disaster. That would mean that moderate socialist ideas couldn't be painted as 'rabid leftism' anymore.
 
Why are goopers so ******* inhumane? How can they look at a list like that and call it bad?
 
Dems are finding the stupidest people in the country and pushing them out front. Don't be surprised if this doesn't turn out well. One of these days Gulag Barbie may have to debate someone with a calculator.
 
BrooklynBaby said:
Dems are finding the stupidest people in the country and pushing them out front. Don't be surprised if this doesn't turn out well. One of these days Gulag Barbie may have to debate someone with a calculator.
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Sarah Palin
Michele Bachmann
Donald Trump

Your move
 
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kookbreaker said:
It’s a bit early for this level of OCDS dontcha think?

Seriously, the GOP is rampant with rabid racists in their power structure and you wring your hands over a single unelected progressive candidate.
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I'm certainly not wringing my hands over her. She probably fits in her district. The Democrats really didn't lose anything with her winning that seat; the Republicans are never going to take it. But there certainly is a risk for the Democrats in going too far left in Kansas. I'm hoping that her preferred candidates win the primaries on Tuesday; it will make taking the house from the GOP just a tad less likely.
 
Venom said:
Obama would vote for a "moderate Republican" before he endorses an actual progressive. And the subtle fear-mongering over Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in this thread is just amusing; I hope it's sarcasm. To hear some of you tell it, the nation could handle Trump's reforms just fine, it's just overblown,...but it wouldn't last a year under an actual leftist, a "democratic socialist".
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No he wouldn't. Obama's job is to get the most Democrats elected which includes conservative Democrats in districts wher AOC and her politics might threaten some. So he might not endorse her until the end and maybe not then. It's strategically the right decision.

AOC doesn't need Obama's help to get elected in that district.
 
The_Animus said:
Sarah Palin
Michele Bachmann
Donald Trump

Your move
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Are you kidding me? Nothing they ever did or said comes close to Barbie's "No Profit" campaign plank. Of course, if you can explain to me how this is going to work in America, I'm all ears.
 
BrooklynBaby said:
Are you kidding me? Nothing they ever did or said comes close to Barbie's "No Profit" campaign plank. Of course, if you can explain to me how this is going to work in America, I'm all ears.
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First please provide context and a source for what you're talking about.
 
acbytesla said:
No he wouldn't. Obama's job is to get the most Democrats elected which includes conservative Democrats in districts wher AOC and her politics might threaten some. So he might not endorse her until the end and maybe not then. It's strategically the right decision.

AOC doesn't need Obama's help to get elected in that district.
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I argue that in the long run it's not a strategically good decision. Trump may be bringing down support for the right a tad, but Democrats are barely lifting a finger to offer anything novel. They're largely riding on the backlash against the Trump administration, and it's not going to last forever nor will it necessarily bring young people to the polls.

Obama has folded his progressive hand more often than not when the pressure was really on.
 
Venom said:
I argue that in the long run it's not a strategically good decision. Trump may be bringing down support for the right a tad, but Democrats are barely lifting a finger to offer anything novel. They're largely riding on the backlash against the Trump administration, and it's not going to last forever nor will it necessarily bring young people to the polls.

Obama has folded his progressive hand more often than not when the pressure was really on.
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I don't disagree with this assessment, but you said Obama would vote for a moderate Republican before he would vote for AOC. And I don't believe that for a second.

Obama was and is a pragmatist, which to a certain degree makes him weak. I like AOC a lot. I think the Democratic party should embrace her messaging. But we should NEVER cut off our nose to spite our face.
 
[I“Capitalism has not always existed in the world and will not always exist in the world,” she continued.[/I]

I don't know how that statement is controversial. The first proto-capitalist systems came into being in the 16th century. Only a tiny tiny fraction of human history has been since then. There is no doubt that it will be gone one day either. Humans won't exist forever after all. But beyond that, I believe there will be time when capitalism just doesn't make sense anymore.
 
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acbytesla said:
No he wouldn't. Obama's job is to get the most Democrats elected
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Dude, that wasn't even Obama's job as President.

The DNC has a whole executive team whose entire job is literally "get the most Democrats elected". Barack Obama is not on that team, and never has been.

Obama's current job, as I understand it, is to create content for Netflix. Getting Democrats elected is no more his job than it is yours... Speaking of which, you should probably up your game and not keep expecting Obama to carry you.
 
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