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Nigel Farage attacks response to Trump ambassador tweet

Nigel Farage has accused Downing Street of putting its dislike of him ahead of the national interest after No 10 dismissed Donald Trump's comment that he could be a "great" ambassador.

The UKIP leader said No 10 needed to accept "the world has changed", adding he was "in a good position, with the president-elect's support, to help".

Mr Trump had tweeted that "many people" would like to see Mr Farage in the role and he would do a "great job".

But No 10 said there was "no vacancy".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38064664

Farage is round the twist if he thinks he will get within spitting distance of being made a diplomat and who is Trump to tell the UK who their Ambassador should be?
 
I'd been willing to give farage the benefit of the doubt (that he wasn't just a self serving tool) until he started this ridiculous bootlicking of trump. His saying trump was like a dominating silverback in the second debate combined with him calling Obama a loathsome creature makes me nauseous. I think he has surpassed galloway on my hate scale (galloway is undeniably worse but far less effectual)
 
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TofuFighter said:
You've just witnessed 18 months of Trump turning facts into fiction. I am not sure what makes you think he'll ever somehow be held to account for anything.
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Because a campaign is fantasy. Trump was full of bravado. Tough to be if you don't deliver.

This is reality. He won't make the fact that he took away someone's health care disappear with a tweet the next day. Trump didn't win in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Ohio because they found him charming. No, it was because they trusted Hilary less and Trump promised them a return to better jobs and a better life. Now he has to deliver on what he likely won't be able to.

Even relaxing environmental laws on coal is unlikely to bring back many coal jobs. It will probably in the short term it will make some of those coal companies more profitable. But natural gas will still be cheaper. I not only doubt there is anything we should do to, I doubt there is anything we could do to reverse the trend away from coal.

Maybe Trump can continue to be Teflon Donald but then again, maybe not.
 
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Nigel Farage attacks response to Trump ambassador tweet

Nigel Farage has accused Downing Street of putting its dislike of him ahead of the national interest after No 10 dismissed Donald Trump's comment that he could be a "great" ambassador.

The UKIP leader said No 10 needed to accept "the world has changed", adding he was "in a good position, with the president-elect's support, to help".

Mr Trump had tweeted that "many people" would like to see Mr Farage in the role and he would do a "great job".

But No 10 said there was "no vacancy".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38064664

Farage is round the twist if he thinks he will get within spitting distance of being made a diplomat and who is Trump to tell the UK who their Ambassador should be?
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Due to the surprise success of the Brexit campaign, Farage has found himself soon without an opportunity to sup at the public teat. :rolleyes:
 
The Don said:
Due to the surprise success of the Brexit campaign, Farage has found himself soon without an opportunity to sup at the public teat. :rolleyes:
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Trump has GOT to dissociate himself from that loon Farage, who is using Trump's "references" to create as much trouble as he can for the despised British "establishment". Does Trump really want to pursue this policy with his country's closest ally?

Here's Sky news
... Mr Farage rounded on the Government for rejecting suggestions he could help cement US/UK relations.

And he called for Sir Kim to resign as ambassador because he is a "fanatical Europhile and part of the old regime" whose views would be "diametrically opposed to Trump's".​
May simply can't take any more of this stuff, or the "mandarins" will go off their heads with indignation.
 
I thought the plan was for Nigel Farage to emigrate to the US, gain citizenship, and then be appointed US ambassador to the UK. That would be a hoot.
 
Ironically Sir Kim might have been up for replacement, he was of course appointed by Cameron whom he served as national security adviser and he isn't popular with May. If she replaced him with anyone now she would face accusations of doing Mr Trump's bidding.
She cannot be seen to capitulate especially by appointing an uncontrollable political opponent as Ambassador.
As the BBC piece says, the real difficulty is that it appears to show that the Trump administration thinks that diplomacy is a bit of a laugh, something for a fun Twitter exchange rather than serious business.
Only a day after Downing Street confirmed it was exploring offering a state visit to Mr Trump next year, he responds by pushing the UK into public disagreement.
 
Craig B said:
Trump has GOT to dissociate himself from that loon Farage, who is using Trump's "references" to create as much trouble as he can for the despised British "establishment". Does Trump really want to pursue this policy with his country's closest ally?

Here's Sky news
... Mr Farage rounded on the Government for rejecting suggestions he could help cement US/UK relations.

And he called for Sir Kim to resign as ambassador because he is a "fanatical Europhile and part of the old regime" whose views would be "diametrically opposed to Trump's".​
May simply can't take any more of this stuff, or the "mandarins" will go off their heads with indignation.
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A spokesman for UKIP on TV news says May and the rest of her government will come crawling on their knees to Farage for help with US relations.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
A spokesman for UKIP on TV news says May and the rest of her government will come crawling on their knees to Farage for help with US relations.
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If anything relevant can be extracted from the ravings of these fools - will somebody be able to persuade Trump of the importance of maintaining working relations with the state machinery of the UK? Or will he keep behaving like a naughty boy making funny faces at humourless authority figures, because for some reason or other he thinks he can get away with it?

Or does he simply have no idea how inappropriate his behaviour is, because he has no experience of conducting serious business with that kind of power structure?
 
sunmaster14 said:
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I think the markets are responding to the fact that Republicans have control of the Presidency and Congress, and that the Senate filibuster is going bye-bye. Tax cuts are coming, especially a corporate income tax rate of 15%. And the elimination of the 3.8% Obamacare tax on investment income. They're also responding to the fact that Trump's transition is going extremely well. He's putting very solid people around himself and mending fences with previous critics (at least the Republican ones). So far, I'm very encouraged, and I don't think I'm too different from the typical investor.
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Interestingly, the size of the deficit and the national debt have been a continual Republican meme throughout the Obama administration, even though much of it was the result of Bush-era decisions. Tax cuts combined with increased defense and infrastructure spending can only make them worse, maybe by more than five trillion dollars. If Wall Street thinks they don't matter now, why did they ever matter?
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-clinton-national-debt-20161019-snap-story.html

And not everybody thinks that putting notorious right-wing extremists in high-level jobs is responsible, let alone reassuring, without even mentioning Trump's gross ignorance about the mechanics of government and his own bizarre conflicts of interest.
 
Bob001 said:
Interestingly, the size of the deficit and the national debt have been a continual Republican meme throughout the Obama administration, even though much of it was the result of Bush-era decisions. Tax cuts combined with increased defense and infrastructure spending can only make them worse, maybe by more than five trillion dollars. If Wall Street thinks they don't matter now, why did they ever matter?
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-clinton-national-debt-20161019-snap-story.html
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Deficits don't really matter. They're just a talking point both sides use for political purposes. Republicans to rein in spending, and Democrats to hike taxes.

And not everybody thinks that putting notorious right-wing extremists in high-level jobs is responsible, let alone reassuring, without even mentioning Trump's gross ignorance about the mechanics of government and his own bizarre conflicts of interest.
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Really? Not everybody? Do tell. :rolleyes:
 
The troubling part about the Farage fiasco is that it demonstrates that Trump wasn't just playing a part during the campaign, he really is an outsider with no clue how diplomacy or international politics works. He has no idea what an Ambassador actually does so of course someone willing to be his bestest pal ever looks good to him and he's oblivious to the effect of making such statements in public.

And of course there's getting bogged down in a twitter fight with a musical, haranguing the media for 'lying' yet again. Oh and of course abandoning any idea of prosecuting Clinton because all of a sudden allegations of violating national security aren't that important. Oh and yeah he's been promoting his new Washington hotel to foreign diplomats, and its still almost two months to the inauguration.:eek:
 
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