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Politicizing hurricane Katrina

JenJen said:
Darling,

Your poll is included in Easycruises list of polls - if you cared to follow his link. There are 10 more recent polls on the list so it is the 11th poll.

Your poll has a history, also - meaning old data. Old data is very interesting and important to compare to new data and for trending purposes. And you, yourself, are comparing older data to newer data to cite how much people hate GWB. This is why older poll data is significant.

BTW - Easycruises link has been bookmarked! Thank you Easycruise. Great link.

Jen
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Sweetums,

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/30/AR2005083000302.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A52151-2004May24.html http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/06/27/bush.poll/ http://online.wsj.com/public/article/0,,SB112481890611420718-_YHqCe_oM7fXMITSkTO2yCR8ZiM_20060824,00.html?mod=blogs http://americanresearchgroup.com/economy/ http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-05-23-bush-ratings_x.htm http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8561443/

Question: before these new poll numbers came out, as he ran the ship of state, did President George Bush climb atop the White House and yell: "I'm King of the World!!"
http://www.themoderatevoice.com/posts/1124937365.shtml http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/08/08/bush.poll/

How rough has it been? Bush has the lowest approval rating of any president at this point in his second term, according to Gallup polls going back to World War II.
http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/37/10267

President Bush's job approval
ratings are at their lowest point of his presidency as only 40 percent of U.S.
adults have a favorable opinion of his job performance, while 58 percent have
a negative opinion. This is a decline from just two months ago in June when
the president's ratings were 45 percent positive and 55 percent negative.
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/08-24-2005/0004093359&EDATE=

The survey found Bush's job approval rating at 45 percent, down seven points since January and the lowest ever recorded for the president in Post-ABC surveys. Fifty-three percent disapproved of the job Bush is doing.
http://www.myantiwar.org/view/57874.html
 
My irrelevent contribution to this thread....

Jon Stewart, talking to Samantha Bee, on "The Daily Show":

Stewart: "Alright, Sam, one last question: The president has vowed to personally lead the investigation into the government's failed response to Katrina. Isn't that a job someone else should be doing?"

Bee: "Not at all, Jon. To truly find out what went wrong, it's important for an investigator to have a little distance from the situation. And it's hard to get any more distant from it than the president was last week."


Let the love fest continue....:D
 
Mark said:
Sweetums,
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Honeybunch,

Your cited polls are getting older and older and, on a quick search of Easycruise's link - many of your citations are on there. I would think that bookmarking Easycruise's link would be easier than keeping all of those individual links around!

Either you need to work on your critical thinking skills or I'm really gullible (what happened to cynical? Maybe my alter ego stepped in.)

Jen
 
JenJen said:
Honeybunch,

Your cited polls are getting older and older and, on a quick search of Easycruise's link - many of your citations are on there. I would think that bookmarking Easycruise's link would be easier than keeping all of those individual links around!

Either you need to work on your critical thinking skills or I'm really gullible (what happened to cynical? Maybe my alter ego stepped in.)

Jen
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Snuggypoo,

The issue is whether or not Bush's poll numbers have dropped.

They have.

To the lowest of any post-WWII President.

Duh.
 
Cleon said:
If this keeps up, I'm going to cyber-barf all over this thread.
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Sorry Cleon (and everyone). I'm done. Mark just changed the subject as a clear sign that even he doesn't have any idea what the heck he was arguing about.

Jen
 
Hey, somebody told me they've turfed Mike Brown as head of FEMA. Is this true? I can't find anything on this...

I thought he was doing one heck of a job!? :confused:
 
JenJen said:
Sorry Cleon (and everyone). I'm done. Mark just changed the subject as a clear sign that even he doesn't have any idea what the heck he was arguing about.

Jen
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Amen. He flooded the field with goalposts and lost track of which was which! :D

Personally, I think he has spent way too much time in front of those Spinal Tap "amps turned up to 11" . Looks to have permanently confused his mind.:D
 
JenJen said:
Sorry Cleon (and everyone). I'm done. Mark just changed the subject as a clear sign that even he doesn't have any idea what the heck he was arguing about.

Jen
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Hardly.

a) I made the completely inarguable point that Bush's poll numbers have dropped.

b) Easycruise tried to deny it anyway.

c) You came in trying to claim that Easycruise was right.

e) You two are living in some weird bizzaro world where you seem to think if you say the sky is puce long enough it will end up true.

Bush's poll numbers have dropped dramatically. Deal with it.
 
crackmonkey said:
Do you even realize that most of the above post is entirely comprised of misinformation? Do you even care, O herpetological one?
75% of the Lousiana NG was home. Bush asked the city and state to evacuate days before they actually did. The mayor of NO admitted that he was reluctant to order a moandatory evacuation earlier because he felt it was a political liability.
The Army Corps of Engineers have said that levee funding was not the problem. If there had been 100% improvements to all the levees, they'd still have failed. The levee that breached had been upgraded. The city and state had an emergency plan that they failed to implement. There were hundreds of buses left in lots that could have been used to ferry the poor to the designated areas, but were never called into service. There was a remarkable lack of leadership at state ad local levels - the governor rebuffed federal attempts to intervene up until Friday.
By all means, keep up the MoveOn dogma, though...
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Buses which were owned by . . .

a PRIVATE company. Ba-da-ding!

Here are your everloving buses.

Those much-focused-on-by-desperate-to-blame-Ray-Nagin-conservatives buses numbered around 200. At ~66 per bus, that's ~13,000 people out of 80,000 that could have been evacuated, assuming permission and drivers could be found in time, and liability questions regarding the whole affair could have been answered.

And evacuted to where? On Sunday, with the hurricane still coming, there was little to no sense of national urgency. We were in for just another interesting but meaningless little storm -- those of us who lived in remote northern regions. Nagin would have been slaughtered on TV for being a panicky dolt, and for failing to come up with plans for the other 67,000 Left Behind. And what state would have had him. The Superdome was probably the best plan, as bad as it was.

At any rate, I've been wondering about those buses since every conservative within 3,000 miles started posting huge color photographs of them, and now I know. The buses are irrelevant. They were not nearly enough to deal with a catastrophe of this size.
 
The latest FOX News national poll finds 52 percent of the public approve and 41 percent disapprove of Bush’s overall job performance.
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January 14, 2005
At 49 percent, the president's job approval rating is below 50 percent for the first time this year, having dropped from 52 percent at the beginning of March.
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March 31, 2005
President Bush’s job approval sits at 47 percent, with 43 percent disapproving.
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April 27, 2005
The latest FOX News poll finds that for the second time of Bush's presidency, more Americans disapprove than approve of his job performance: 45 percent approve and 50 percent disapprove. The other time disapproval topped approval was in August 2004 when 44 percent approved and 48 percent disapproved.
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September 01, 2005
 
claimee said:
January 14, 2005
March 31, 2005
April 27, 2005
September 01, 2005
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From your most recent link:

NEW YORK — Even as a majority of Americans say they want U.S. troops to stay in Iraq (search) and finish the job, approval of President George W. Bush's handling of Iraq is at the lowest level of his presidency, according to a new FOX News poll. Views of the president's handling of the economy and terrorism are also at low points. The president's ratings correspond with the public's gloominess on top issues: many think things in Iraq are going worse than expected, pessimism about the economy is up and most foresee gas prices continuing to climb.

The latest FOX News poll finds that for the second time of Bush's presidency, more Americans disapprove than approve of his job performance: 45 percent approve and 50 percent disapprove.

On the situation in Iraq, 41 percent approve, down from 44 percent at the beginning of the year (January 2005) and a high of 75 percent in April 2003 — around the time Iraqis toppled the statue of Saddam Hussein in Baghdad

When asked to consider how things would be going if — hypothetically — Mass. Sen. John Kerry had won last year's presidential election, 40 percent of voters think he would be doing a better job than Bush on handling the economy and 31 percent think he would be doing worse. Opinion splits evenly on handling the situation with Iraq: 37 percent think Kerry would be doing a better job than Bush and 38 percent say worse.


And that's Fox News!!!! The Republican Party's unofficial mouthpiece.
 
Mark said:
And that's Fox News!!!! The Republican Party's unofficial mouthpiece.
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Ah ... Mark ... claimee's post supported your argument.

NOT the argument that you had with ME which had absolutely NOTHING to do with the RESULTS of any poll but your general argument that GWB's approval ratings have gone down.

Please thank claimee.

Jen

Sorry guys ... had to reply.
 
Oops. My mistake. I believe I misunderstood the tone of Mark's post regarding claimee. Sorry.

The other part stands.

Jen
 
Bruce said:
Wow. Talk about a de-rail.


So, how about them Whigs? :rolleyes:
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Turns out they're completely innocent of all charges and to be held blameless.

Either that or they tried to exterminate a few hundred thousand good Americans.

Jen
 
Mark said:
Snuggypoo,

The issue is whether or not Bush's poll numbers have dropped.

They have.

To the lowest of any post-WWII President.

Duh.
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I guess he won't be re-elected in 2008, then. :D
 
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