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Plume in Flight 93 photo is different
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Actually more similar than not. They both crashed at similar angles, jet fuel poured out on fire, plume formed.
DavidJames
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Explain your analysis which show the similarities and account for (with details) what the differences would make.
evidence please.
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Gravy
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Yes or no, Killtown: do you have, or have you ever seen, video of another 757 that nosedived into soft ground at 580 mph?
Yes or no?
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when was that photo taken?
Gravy
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It's from your website, same as the other aerial photos from the helicopter. You tell me.
How do you know that?
When you light a fire in a charcoal grill, does the grass around it get singed? If so, why, if not why not?
DavidJames
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You claim to be making your analysis by looking at pictures.
It would be helpful for me to know what education or practical experience you have which enables you to make such analysis.
What is your educational background?
What is your work experience?
I think he stayed at a Holiday Inn last night!!
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killtown: "NO LARGE jet fuel explosion happened at the crater or all the grass around the rim would have been singed"
Wrong. I've even gone so far as to present to you a picture of a crash on Snow. Snow, killtown. Right around the debris. Didn't melt. It was still Snow.
Dead issue. What else have you got? Go....
Wrong. I've even gone so far as to present to you a picture of a crash on Snow. Snow, killtown. Right around the debris. Didn't melt. It was still Snow.
Dead issue. What else have you got? Go....
apples and oranges.
give it up. I blew away your "magic explosion" theory. admit defeat and ask questions to our gov't where did the plume come from because we all know now it didn't come from the crash.
When you light a fire in a charcoal grill, does the grass around it get singed? If so, why, if not why not?
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Killtown, what is your obsession with football fields? Is that the only way you can actually relate to distance?
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You know you're talking to a Loser when all you get is...."Did Not."
Then explain your apples and oranges theory, boy. Plane crashes. Stuff around it doesn't necessarily have to get all burned up. You've seen the photos. You lose. Move on. What else you got?
Regnad Kcin
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Why, he's a shepherd. He said so himself. And I can't imagine he would ever lie.
Say, Killtown, do your ewes tend to be a little on edge when you're around? If y'know what I mean...
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Okay, Killtown, you've presented your case. Now let's get down to you taking responsibility for your actions. You're going to be a man about this, right?
Please answer these statements with "true" or "false."
1) Your only published criterion for Val McClatchey's guilt was if the photo had been manipulated to insert the plume.
2) You did not have access to the original image.
3) You do not possess a high-resolution copy of the photo.
4) You have no basis for determining if the photo was digitally altered.
5) The FBI said the photo is authentic.
6) After 60 pages of instructions, advice, examples, math, physics, and even expert opinion, your conclusion about the size of the plume is based on your opinion that it should have looked like the crash of entirely different planes under entirely different circumstances.
7) If you were accused of a serious crime that you did not commit, you would prefer that your standards of proof be used against you, rather than the current U.S. legal standards.
8) You believe that a person should be considered innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
9) It is wrong to needlessly cause pain to people.
10) According to your own criteria, you have not shown Val McClatchey to be guilty of anything.
Please do the right thing and answer true or false to these statements.
Please answer these statements with "true" or "false."
1) Your only published criterion for Val McClatchey's guilt was if the photo had been manipulated to insert the plume.
2) You did not have access to the original image.
3) You do not possess a high-resolution copy of the photo.
4) You have no basis for determining if the photo was digitally altered.
5) The FBI said the photo is authentic.
6) After 60 pages of instructions, advice, examples, math, physics, and even expert opinion, your conclusion about the size of the plume is based on your opinion that it should have looked like the crash of entirely different planes under entirely different circumstances.
7) If you were accused of a serious crime that you did not commit, you would prefer that your standards of proof be used against you, rather than the current U.S. legal standards.
8) You believe that a person should be considered innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
9) It is wrong to needlessly cause pain to people.
10) According to your own criteria, you have not shown Val McClatchey to be guilty of anything.
Please do the right thing and answer true or false to these statements.
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BTW, what happened to your Big Experiment, killtown? Where was the "Aha!" moment? Didn't pan out so you've reverted to this grass thing? I have lots of photos of plane crashes where the grass is green. Posted some of them. Got an answer for those? Or just more, "Did Nots?"
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