Merged Obama Birth Certificate Released

Here it is, "proof" that the certificate is an obvious fake!!
 
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It's a fake. Because they called black people "Negros" back then, not "Africans". C'mon sheeple, wake up. :rolleyes:

(note that I actually had a discussion about a co-worker about this today. That was his reasoning that Obama is still hiding something)
 
SkepticalDrew said:
It's a fake. Because they called black people "Negros" back then, not "Africans". C'mon sheeple, wake up. :rolleyes:

(note that I actually had a discussion about a co-worker about this today. That was his reasoning that Obama is still hiding something)
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Most of them will never admit they were wrong. Just as they will never admit that what's driving them is--as much as they will try to deny it--racism.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNJfdKClbH4

I tried to embed this earlie, but couldn't.

I wonder if people can't simply understand that this could've been "faked" to make the original more legible. Also, the file could be altered by others to make it appear fake by those wanting to present it as fake.
 
So I have an acquaintence on facebook that said the reason she doesn't question McCain's citizenship is because he has security clearance. I said that Obama has security clearance. She asked me if I'm sure...............

Wow.
 
JoeTheJuggler said:
This makes no sense. The Obama campaign complied with the request to provide a certified copy of his birth certificate before the election.

Do you mean why did it take so long for him to accede to the irrational demands of people making completely irrational and baseless allegations? Frankly, I'm still not sure why he bothered doing this at all.
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I don't understand the objections to him releasing it. To me it's a timely and smart political move on his part. Many on the Right have been harping on and on about this nonsense and now it's been conclusively shown there's no reasonable basis to the questions. Those that continue to stoke the birther flames FURTHER marginalize themselves and their political aspirations. The rest wisely move on.

If you're thinking about it in terms of the likelihood it'll stamp out the birther movement then yes, there's no compelling reason to release it because the movement isn't going anywhere (though some might actually accept the evidence). But as a political move it makes perfect sense.
 
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There's gonna be a question about this as long as Obama remains black. We should really move on.
 
I think he should've let it go on for much longer. Let Trump get the GOP nomination based on this nonsense.
 
ANTPogo said:
Especially since, in the May 2001 announcement that photocopies of the long form were no longer to be issued, just computer-generated abstract short forms, the Director of the Department of Health at the time cited "statutory restrictions" as the reason for the change.

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It's pursuant to statutory restrictions. The law doesn't directly forbid the photocopies, rather the law gives the Director of Health the authority to make rules, which in this case gave the Director of Health to only give out certified copies of digital print-outs.

If you read the correspondence between Obama and the Director of Health you'll see that the Director of Health states:
As the Director of Health for the State of Hawaii, I have the legal authority to approve the process by which copies of such records are made.
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No laws were broken. Rather a rule was changed for a single person.
 
AdMan said:
Back on topic and to the question of whether Obama had to go above the law to put his long-form birth certificate out there (and not just to access it)--there is an interpretation of the law that says he did.




http://ordinary-gentlemen.com/blog/2011/04/27/thankfully-andrew-sullivan-is-not-a-lawyer/
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There is no law; never has been, that prevents release of the long-form birth certificate, and others besides Obama went and specifically requested copies of their's the previous month. Now Obama has.

Yea, the director said it wouldn't be there normal policy. He made that decision, but it's not a law, and when people gave a specific reason such as certain agencies requiring it, the State would do it. Their Homelands program would sometimes require it, for example.

Moreover, State law requires them to comply and provide a long-form birth certificate or a copy of any other legal document in their possession.
 
tyr_13 said:
I take this to mean that despite the fact that Obama was born in Hawaii, no evidence ever presented will ever be enough for you to accept it. In short, no evidence can change your mind.

Sad really.
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Wrong.

Now what will you assume from one word?
 
I don't believe any of our resident birthers have yet to admit that they were wrong about the whole thing.

Just say Obama was born in America, already.
 
randman said:
There is no law; never has been, that prevents release of the long-form birth certificate, and others besides Obama went and specifically requested copies of their's the previous month.
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No, they didn't. Miki Booth, unable to get her son's or husband's long form (despite both you and her claiming it was possible), provided an anonymous certificate from someone else. And given Booth's rather tenuous relationship with truth and honesty (she's told a number of direct lies about both her son's short form certificate and Obama's short form), as well as the fact that the exact same anonymous certificate was also posted, without a registrar's stamp, on the same website two days after the stamped copy was ostensibly issued, it's extremely doubtful that the document was actually issued and certified last month.

The fact that you uncritically believe Booth, while seriously doubting the numerous and explicit statements and documents released by Hawaii state officials (Democrat and Republican alike) is rather telling, though.

Yea, the director said it wouldn't be there normal policy. He made that decision, but it's not a law, and when people gave a specific reason such as certain agencies requiring it, the State would do it. Their Homelands program would sometimes require it, for example.
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Except that even the Homeland program flat-out states that the long form isn't issued any more.

Moreover, State law requires them to comply and provide a long-form birth certificate or a copy of any other legal document in their possession.
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No, it doesn't (not certified copies, at least). Which is why in 2001 they officially announced they weren't going to do that any more. And why Miki Booth couldn't get copies of her son's and husband's long form certificates after that date, and why Lieutenant Colonel Lakin couldn't get a copy of his daughter's certificate after that date.
 
New poll

1st Reaction to White House Release of Long-Form Obama Birth Certificate: 28% Still Have Doubts, Including 10% Who Say It's a Forgery:

A SurveyUSA nationwide poll, including cell-phone and landline respondents, conducted after the White House 04/27/11 released a more detailed certificate showing the President's birth, shows that 71% of Americans who have seen the newly public "long-form" now are satisfied that the President was born in the United States. 18% of those who have seen the certificate still have doubts about where the President was born. Another 10% say the document released by the White House is a forgery.
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