Moderated Obama birth certificate CT / SSN CT / Birther discussion

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*facepalm*

Seriously, what does it take for this woman to GET A FREAKING CLUE?!?!?
 
Horatius said:
Nope, not even then. She'd be jailhouse lawyering this all the way to the grave....
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Nah, 5 years at the most (possibly as soon as 1 year). Then her problems will suddenly be resolved without any action needed.
 
Alferd_Packer said:
orly's swings for the fence



Of course, it goes without saying that the subpoena she is trying to serve on Hawaii's Deputy Attorney General is not valid outside the state of Georgia.
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want more ultimate fail? Look at the dates on her Subpoena.

Dec 29. This is the subpoena that she just had a hearing on this past friday (and it was denined).

So she wants Nagamine to enforce a subpoena that was denied on Friday, in a letter that she sent out on Saturday.


Hope that Nagamine will include this new letter in her request for sanctions and a reason for her vexatious litigant recommendation.
 
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This woman needs to be stopped:

orlytaitzesq.com/?p=30430 (link delinked due to malware and spyware on Orly's site):

Please, file a criminal complaint and send it certified mail or FEDEX to grand juries. ...

Corrupt US attorneys, Attorney Generals and District Attorneys are telling you thet those grand juries can indict only when the governmental officials are bringing charges. That is not true. Grand juries can act against the advise of the officials. they are called “runaway grand juries”.

US attorneys, AGs and DAs have to forward to the grand jury criminal complaints, that were filed by you. If they do not do it, they are obstructing justice. For example, you can write to the grand jury in Honolulu and demand to bring criminal indictment against the Director of Health, Registrar, Attorney General and Deputy Attorney General of HI for aiding and abetting forgery of official governmental records, for aiding and abetting election fraud, for obstruction of justice, for violation of civil rights of U.S. citizens under the color of authority. cc your complaint to evey member of the jury, send it to congress, to media, to Inspector General of the department of Justice, Civil rights defenders commission of the United Nations and Inter American commission for Human Rights
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. If local DA in Honolulu refuses to bring charges, the grand jury can indict without the DA and make the indictment public. They can even include indictment against the DA, who is engaged in obstruction of justice. Make sure, that your complaint is received. We have seen obstruction of justice, where complants were not forwarded to the Grand Juries.

The same can be done in NH against corrupt Secretary of State, members of the ballot law commission and even 5 judges of the Supreme Court of New Hampshire for aiding and abetting elections fraud and forgery.
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she's asking her cavity creeps to now harass officials in Honolulu, to bring indictments against the AG and the HDOH.


:jaw-dropp
 
"Deputy attorney general Nagamine represents a pinnacle of corruption of a governmental official."


Silly question, what with the whole freedom of speech thing but can that AG whip a libel suit on her?

Also, OT's prose style sucks.
 
Here is a video of Orly's fail in Hawaii on Jan. 13, 2012



Note: filmed by another birther, so take it with a grain of salt if you see edits that don't make sense. Soros agents at thefogbow.com are getting the court transcripts
 
Taitz is obsessed, that's for sure. I doubt that she'd give up on her obsession until her dying day.
 
Arus808 said:
Here is a video of Orly's fail in Hawaii on Jan. 13, 2012



Note: filmed by another birther, so take it with a grain of salt if you see edits that don't make sense. Soros agents at thefogbow.com are getting the court transcripts
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22 minutes of Orly droning on and on does not make for good watching!
 
Alferd_Packer said:
It looks like the Sorensen case in Alabama is shaping up to be a real laugher.
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Yup and dismissed, with prejudice, and attorney's fees and costs sought:

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2012/01/jefferson_county_judge_dismiss_2.html

BIRMINGHAM, Alabama -- For the second time in as many weeks, a Jefferson County judge has dismissed a lawsuit challenging President Obama's citizenship and right to be included on Democratic ballots in Alabama.

After a short hearing this morning, Circuit Judge Helen Shores Lee again ruled that the courts have no authority to dictate who can and cannot be included on ballots in the party-run primaries. She dismissed the suit filed last week by Harold Sorensen of Luverne.
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http://www.thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=6908&view=unread#p330287

The hearing was mostly a non-event. Sorensen filed a Motion to Dismiss his case (without prejudice) first thing this morning and was planning on skipping the hearing. Judge suggested he stick around. Judge Lee then announced that after reading all the motions, she was dismissing the case, not on Sorensen's motion, but on our motion under the "jurisdiction stripping statute." She indicated, however, that the dismissal would be WITH PREJUDICE and that she was awarding us all costs and attorney's fees to be paid within 45 days. I thought Sorensen was going to pass out and he was audibly distressed when she awarded us fees. I was actually afraid that he would have a stroke. Sorensen then told that Judge that he was "a retired senior citizen, who has no money." I then reminded the Judge that Mr. Sorensen had filed a Motion for Recusal which I thought needed to be addressed on the record. The Judge asked Sorensen to stand and explain his recusal motion. Sorensen said that he was "not feeling very well" so Judge let him speak seated at the table. Sorensen said that the recusal was "certainly not about race" but was based on his observation of Judge Lee during the Hendershot hearing. He said that after watching Judge Lee, he knew that he "didn't stand a chance" if she was the judge. He also said that he was just "an old man" who was tired of all of this and wanted to go home and never deal with this again. I then said a few things. I demanded that Sorensen apologize to Judge Lee for his recusal motion, which he did (albeit, accompanied by a short speech about why the citizenship of the President's father meant that the President was not a NBC). I also said that if Mr. Sorensen was truly sincere about quitting this nonsense, that we would forego attempting to recover fees and costs, but if he filed another case or even collaborated with the filing of another case, or even got on the internet and complained about Judge Lee or how she handled this case, then we would come after him for the full amount. Judge Lee will enter a formal order later today.

Barry A. Ragsdale
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Oh dear, poor Orlana. The latest email from Jill Nagamine, the defense councel in Hawaii:
I am in receipt of two emails that you sent me on Saturday morning. Thefirst is entitled “subpoena” and is dated 01/15/2012 at 3:11a.m. Hawaii-Aleutian Standard Time (HST) [1:11 a.m. PST]. The second is entitled”subpoena, I am not sure the attachment went through before, resubmittingit” and is dated 01/15/2012 at 3:17 a.m. HST [1:17 a.m. PST]. The second hasan attachment.

This is to inform you that I do not plan to open these or any futureemails or attachments that you send me, because my computer was adverselyinfected with either a virus or malware after I opened your emails on January10-11, 2012. Until then our department’s protection programs haddealt successfully with viruses and malware from other sources, and I hadnot received or opened any e-mails or attachments from you. So althoughI currently have no specific proof that this problem was transmitted withyour e-mails, the conclusion that it was is a reasonable one. Therefore,to avoid future problems I plan to delete all future emails from you withoutopening them.

If you have anything to serve me, please follow the applicable court rulesto do so properly. If you have anything that you would like to bringto my attention quickly, please send your request via facsimile . . . during my office’s regular business hours. Please be advisedthat I do not agree to waive any notice or service requirements to whichI am entitled.
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Is that last paragraph a very polite "stop that crap and start acting like a professional already"?
 
She's not the queen of birthers, she's the queen of mallware.

I seriously think she gets money for hosting mallware on her site.

It's not like her husband doesn't have resources to help her clean up her act.
 
Alferd_Packer said:
She's not the queen of birthers, she's the queen of mallware.

I seriously think she gets money for hosting mallware on her site.
It's not like her husband doesn't have resources to help her clean up her act.
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The owner/admin of her previous website wrote a blog post a while ago, explaining just why he had to take control of that site from her. She was basically giving carte blanche to malicious third party software on the website, and since it was registred in his name, he felt he had an obligation to stop it. Naturally, she sued.

I'll see if I can dig up a link.

Edit: 1111 posts. I should quit JREF now :)

Edit2: Ze link: http://defendourfreedoms.net/2009/04/12/understanding-the-internet-102.aspx
 
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Chaos said:
Is that last paragraph a very polite "stop that crap and start acting like a professional already"?
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Having both read and written such "polite" reminders in my own work, that's how I would read it :D
 
The transcript of the hearing on the 13th is up at Scribd: http://www.scribd.com/doc/78593442/TAITZ-v-FUDDY-Certified-Transcript-of-1-13-12-Hearing-11-1731fb

It is a thing of beauty, particularly Taitz's misstatement (to be fair, this also could be a mistake on the part of the court reporter) on page 8 lines 17-19.
Taitz said:
Is the evidence requested irrelevant? No. When the natural born citizen status is being decided, the original birth certificate is not relevant.
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Apparently, as well as emailing the original subpoenas once again to Ms Nagamine rather than serving them correctly, Taitz has also filed a further motion in Taitz vs Fuddy. The docket says: "RECEIVED-EX PARTE AMENDED MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION UNDER 60B" filed pro se, late on Friday. No copy of the motion yet, but if she wants to be declared a vexatious litigant, she's certainly going about it the right way.
 
At this point I'm going to chalk Orly's actions up to a severe concussion resulting to continually smashing her head against the wall of reality.
 
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