Moderated Obama birth certificate CT / SSN CT / Birther discussion

[Alferd_Packer]

Funny how Lucas got cold feet when Orly asked him to testify under oath about that document.

 

[rustypouch]

2/10

 

[leftysergeant]

Has anybody asked these conmen to tell us how they got the copies and where the originals are available for viewing?

No?

Go away.

 

[332nd]

Obama's birth certificate has been found in Kenya.

http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/11/05/Obama_birthplace.html

Here is the solution to the riddle:

Coast Provincial General Hospital , Mombasa , Kenya where Obama was born a few hours later at 7:21 pm on August 4, 1961(what a sad day for the USA !).
Four days later his mother flew to Hawaii and registered his birth in Honolulu as a certificate of live birth which omitted the place and hospital of birth.”

Note the footprint on the document.

Touching.

Oooo sorry, he's already proven he was born in Hawaii.

 

[Alferd_Packer]

I know it goes against all conventional wisdom today to say this, but we may be witnessing the final days of the Barack Obama regime.

That boy has some serious mental issues. He has to stop using that cheap imported mustache wax, it's loaded with mercury.

 

[Alferd_Packer]

Four days later his mother flew to Hawaii and registered his birth in Honolulu

with a four day old baby in her lap?

 

[I Am The Scum]

How many "authentic" Kenyan birth certificates is that, now? Are the birthers embarrassed by this at all, or do they try to claim that this proves not only was Obama born in Kenya, he was born there seven or eight times?

 

[Cleon]

How many "authentic" Kenyan birth certificates is that, now? Are the birthers embarrassed by this at all, or do they try to claim that this proves not only was Obama born in Kenya, he was born there seven or eight times?

Huh. For one Christian, the phrase "born again" might actually apply...

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Obama's birth certificate has been found in Kenya.

http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/11/05/Obama_birthplace.html

Here is the solution to the riddle:

Coast Provincial General Hospital , Mombasa , Kenya where Obama was born a few hours later at 7:21 pm on August 4, 1961(what a sad day for the USA !).
Four days later his mother flew to Hawaii and registered his birth in Honolulu as a certificate of live birth which omitted the place and hospital of birth.”

Note the footprint on the document.

Touching.

Wow. He had us fooled all along.

 

[Nursefoxfire]

I don't really follow all the birther stuff but a question popped into my head that has (probably) been answered in the past.

In the staggeringly unlikely event that Obama was born in Kenya, how would that make a difference in his qualifications to run for POTUS? Wouldn't he be a US citizen based on his mother being one, regardless of where he'd been born? Or am I missing something obvious?

 

[Beerina]

No, overseas births makes you an American citizen if one of your parents is, but apparently not a natural-born citizen. That's reserved for being born inside the country, or outside, but one of your parents is military and you're outside with them at their station. The latter is so to not make nobly serving the military have the downside that your kids born overseas with you can't run for president someday.

 

[funk de fino]

Sorry, but the bigots will never stop. Let them continue to embarrass themselves. Along with those who pretend they are not bigots.

 

[BobTheDonkey]

No, overseas births makes you an American citizen if one of your parents is, but apparently not a natural-born citizen. That's reserved for being born inside the country, or outside, but one of your parents is military and you're outside with them at their station. The latter is so to not make nobly serving the military have the downside that your kids born overseas with you can't run for president someday.

Both parents being US citizens also qualifies a foreign born child to be Natural Born Citizen. Which is why it's a big deal that Obama's father was a Kenyan citizen.

 

[PGH]

Why does the thread title say "official" instead of "false"?

 

[dtugg]

To anybody that doesn't know: 9/11 is a truther and probably the most extreme Holocaust denier/Hitler huger/Jew hater here.

 

[A'isha]

No, overseas births makes you an American citizen if one of your parents is, but apparently not a natural-born citizen. That's reserved for being born inside the country, or outside, but one of your parents is military and you're outside with them at their station. The latter is so to not make nobly serving the military have the downside that your kids born overseas with you can't run for president someday.

This is incorrect. There is no class of American citizen that lets you be born a citizen but not a "natural-born" citizen.

There are only two types of American citizens: those who were citizens from their very moment of birth (natural born, and can run for the presidency), or and those who underwent the specific and deliberate administrative and legal process to become a citizen at some point after their birth (naturalized, can't run for president).

And that's it. If you're a US citizen, and you didn't get that way by taking a written test administered by a government official who then swore you in as a citizen and gave you a naturalization certificate, then you're a natural born citizen.

EDIT: Under US law you can become a national but not a citizen at birth, but that's not the same thing. If you're born a citizen, then you're a natural-born citizen, no matter what.

 

[Juniversal]

Obama's birth certificate has been found in Kenya.

http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/11/05/Obama_birthplace.html

Here is the solution to the riddle:

Coast Provincial General Hospital , Mombasa , Kenya where Obama was born a few hours later at 7:21 pm on August 4, 1961(what a sad day for the USA !).
Four days later his mother flew to Hawaii and registered his birth in Honolulu as a certificate of live birth which omitted the place and hospital of birth.”

Note the footprint on the document.

Touching.

Why is it that you CTist unequivocally accept any evidence in opposition to the "official story" but ignore the overwhelming evidence that proves otherwise??

 

[Thunder]

nevermind the fact that this very silly document was debunked in 2009.

 

[A'isha]

I don't really follow all the birther stuff but a question popped into my head that has (probably) been answered in the past.

In the staggeringly unlikely event that Obama was born in Kenya, how would that make a difference in his qualifications to run for POTUS? Wouldn't he be a US citizen based on his mother being one, regardless of where he'd been born? Or am I missing something obvious?

This is more iffy. US law at the time said that if you were born overseas to one citizen parent and one noncitizen parent, in order for you to be a natural-born citizen then your citizen parent had to have lived in the US for at least five years after turning 14. Stanley Ann Dunham missed that by one year (she was only 18 when Obama was born instead of the required 19).

Current US law on the matter is less restrictive. Now, the citizen parent has to have lived in the US for at least 5 years, but only two of those years have to be after the age of 14.

 

[mysteronyx]

ANTPogo is correct.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/usc_sec_08_00001401----000-.html