Merged Obama birth certificate CT / SSN CT / Birther discussion Part II

[Bubba]

One uses Wiki as a start because sometimes - as in this case - it has a good selection of detailed professional sources - I mean why don't you look at sources critically THEN hand wave them away?

Saves time.

Actually Ann Dunham's wiki page reads like possible typical agency profiles. She and both her husbands. African, and Indonesian. Russian language student. Oil industry surveyor. Good covers. Granpa Dunham welcoming russian language student at Hickam Air Force base Honolulu. As a missionary. Of course.

A friend of mine studying in Italy in 80s was approached and offered a job observing and taking notes and pics. No secret they are everywhere. My friend declined, he says. I knew a guy retired in 1990 or so from Shell. Engineer. Mid east, Asia. He said most every petro station near political hotspots had at least one spook. No brainer. Connections>(like skull & bones or similar)>wall street>petro>govt agency. Isnt that how you'd do it?

Left leaning? Not cold war granpa. Madsen's points applied to Gramps and Mom make more sense than applied to grandson. 'CIA family' doesnt mean grandson has to be a spook. That dont mean grandson was not in the loop. Especially earlier. Maybe he was involved. Maybe socialist leaning is a somehow useful part of today's agency. All this in the hypothetical model mind you. Theory. Madsen's material re gramps & mom seems plausible IMO.

 

[timhau]

"But I wanna believe this BS!"

 

[Cosmic Yak]

What was that motive, pray tell?

This, as if you had actually forgotten.

Dont you think it is useful to know who writes such childish nonsense, for future reference? I think it is useful to know. specially where it is false. That reveals a character willfully indulging dishonestly in abusive slander.

Stop wriggling, admit you were wrong and apologise.

 

[fagin]

There are so many 'maybe's in this thread I forecast a world shortage. Stockpile while you can.

 

[Cosmic Yak]

Potentially problematic health disorders could be revealed by DNA testing. Part of medical vetting, which I've advocated for years. People should know much much more about candidates.


My DNA remark was about vetting future candidates, plural.

Quote:
Did I ever get back to you about acceptable means of candidates birth certification?
If not, I'd say the usual ie BC etc.

Maybe one day later DNA test too.

No, it wasn't. You just can't punctuate correctly.
What you should have posted was either "candidate's" (singular possessive), or "candidates' " (plural possessive). What you actually posted was grammatically incorrect. I didn't point it out because I was being forgiving, and focussing more on your message. However, if you are going to try to be pedantic with me, then so be it.
You are doubly wrong. Grammatically wrong, and also wrong for falsely accusing me of slander etc.
Apologise.

I called for future candidates to be DNA tested, maybe.

A minor detail. How would testing any future candidate establish whether or not they were born in America?
Apologise.

 

[abaddon]

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Saves time.

Actually Ann Dunham's wiki page reads like possible typical agency profiles. She and both her husbands. African, and Indonesian. Russian language student. Oil industry surveyor. Good covers. Granpa Dunham welcoming russian language student at Hickam Air Force base Honolulu. As a missionary. Of course.

A friend of mine studying in Italy in 80s was approached and offered a job observing and taking notes and pics. No secret they are everywhere. My friend declined, he says. I knew a guy retired in 1990 or so from Shell. Engineer. Mid east, Asia. He said most every petro station near political hotspots had at least one spook. No brainer. Connections>(like skull & bones or similar)>wall street>petro>govt agency. Isnt that how you'd do it?

Left leaning? Not cold war granpa. Madsen's points applied to Gramps and Mom make more sense than applied to grandson. 'CIA family' doesnt mean grandson has to be a spook. That dont mean grandson was not in the loop. Especially earlier. Maybe he was involved. Maybe socialist leaning is a somehow useful part of today's agency. All this in the hypothetical model mind you. Theory. Madsen's material re gramps & mom seems plausible IMO.

A. Exactly what expertise do you have in "agency profiles"? Were it so easy as you pretend, no spy could function anywhere, ever.

B. Anecdotes are not evidence, and a spook in every gas station, that is risible.

C. So the CIA planned to have Obama elected as far back as two generations because "reasons".

Pull the middle one.

 

[halleyscomet]

Congrats on escaping that mind control system.


Please explain how you determined: "demonstrably stupid...tall tales about CIA operatives" (re obama family).

It would be good to know there was one less leader/case like that.

There you go again, wallowing in window dressing. “But! But! CIA!”

If you insist in trying to excuse your past gullibility then start by giving me some reliable sources for those claims. PrisonPlanet, WND, and Infowars are not reliable sources. There at the modern equivalents of the sadly defunct Weekly World News. They are slightly less entertainingly written that their predecessor and as a result more plausible to idiots. #PizzaGate is today’s BatBoy.

 

[Hans]

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Saves time.

Especially when you have your mind already made up huh?

 

[Hans]

So the CIA planned to have Obama elected as far back as two generations because "reasons".

I cannot think of viable one and since his presidency is in the past.....wait maybe he was made president to usher in Trump......we could really make this complicated....lol

 

[Hans]

"But I wanna believe this BS!"

That is pretty much the reason behind almost all Bubba threads.

 

[halleyscomet]

That is pretty much the reason behind almost all Bubba threads.

Are they as full of futile attempts at self justification as this one?

 

[Hans]

Are they as full of futile attempts at self justification as this one?

Usually, Jay Utah kinda trimmed his soul a bit in the past and its not quite as bad as it use to be.

 

[Bubba]

There you go again, wallowing in window dressing. “But! But! CIA!”

If you insist in trying to excuse your past gullibility then start by giving me some reliable sources for those claims. PrisonPlanet, WND, and Infowars are not reliable sources. There at the modern equivalents of the sadly defunct Weekly World News. They are slightly less entertainingly written that their predecessor and as a result more plausible to idiots. #PizzaGate is today’s BatBoy.

If you recall, I said it was Wayne Madsen's material (not infowars) that was pasted on the infowars page.

Good luck finding your 'reliable sources' writing like Madsen.

 

[Bubba]

A. Exactly what expertise do you have in "agency profiles"? Were it so easy as you pretend, no spy could function anywhere, ever.

B. Anecdotes are not evidence, and a spook in every gas station, that is risible.

C. So the CIA planned to have Obama elected as far back as two generations because "reasons".

Pull the middle one.

How agents go undercover is public info. Not to mention common sense. Certain jobs are known to make good covers.

B & C are straw. Attempting to put words where none were spoken. Again.

Please try playing it straight. For a change.

 

[Belz...]

Two questions for you, Bubba:

1. When did they release the birth certificate?
2. When did you post this?

Please answer both.

I'm shocked -- shocked! -- that he hasn't answered this.

 

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak View Post
Do you remember Bubba saying he wanted Obama to undergo a DNA test to prove he was American? That made me chuckle.

by Cosmic Yak
How would testing any future candidate establish whether or not they were born in America?

Apologise.

 

[Bubba]

ooops sorry

never mind

 

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by abaddon View Post

Pull the middle one.

In this obama thread I thought you'd be calling me a racist by now as you called me a pedophile in that other thread.

Dont disappoint. Now's yer chance.

 

[Belz...]

ooops

never mind

Did you answer Mojo's question by accident?

 

[bruto]

In this obama thread I thought you'd be calling me a racist by now as you called me a pedophile in that other thread.

Dont disappoint. Now's yer chance.

If it floats your boat, you can call yourself whatever you want. I think the origin of the nonsensical birtherism farce is racist, but the motivation of the thoughtless dupes of it is anyone's guess.