NWO Says overwhelimingly - We Want Kerry

[a_unique_person]

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/14/1097607374083.html

Most Australians do not like George Bush and want John Kerry to win next month's presidential election - and they are not alone.

A co-ordinated survey of attitudes by leading newspapers in 10 nations has revealed a sharp souring of attitudes towards the United States that can be traced to one man: Mr Bush.

Remarkably, the view of Australian voters on the key questions is almost perfectly in sync with the average recorded across the other nine nations: Canada, Britain, France, Spain, South Korea, Japan, Israel, Russia and Mexico.

Fifty-four per cent of Australian voters would prefer to see John Kerry in the White House - a figure that exactly matches the average of the 10 surveys.

Sixty-five per cent of Australians have an unfavourable view of Mr Bush. Just 28 per cent would prefer him to win on November 2. The averages across the 10 nations were 63 per cent and 27 per cent respectively.

And 54 per cent of Australians say their opinion of the US has declined in the past two or three years - again, exactly reflecting the average across the 10 nations.
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But most people surveyed have a favourable view of American people. None have a more positive attitude than the citizens of America's Cold War rival, Russia.

Nearly 90 per cent of Russians have a favourable view of Americans, compared with 72 per cent of Australians and 62 per cent of Britons. Only the Spanish (47 per cent) do not like Americans.

So, Americans themselves are not the issue, it is the conservative extremists running US foreign policy who are.

 

[corplinx]

As a typical neocon, I printed out your post and used it to wipe my @sshole after blasting a 5 alarm chili foamer in my non-water conserving toilet.

I knew I shouldn't have had a glass of the free Iraqi oil we fought the war for with it.

 

[a_unique_person]

I wouldn't tell any Spanish that, if I was you.

 

[Grammatron]

Doesn't this kind of show the ignorance of people in those countries? I mean to hate an entire nation because of one man that majority didn't even vote for, that's rather stupid.

 

[Matabiri]

Doesn't this kind of show the ignorance of people in those countries? I mean to hate an entire nation because of one man that majority didn't even vote for, that's rather stupid.

Um, they don't hate an entire nation.

But most people surveyed have a favourable view of American people. None have a more positive attitude than the citizens of America's Cold War rival, Russia.

Nearly 90 per cent of Russians have a favourable view of Americans, compared with 72 per cent of Australians and 62 per cent of Britons. Only the Spanish (47 per cent) do not like Americans.

 

[Grammatron]

Um, they don't hate an entire nation.

Ok hate perhaps was too strong a word, but even disliking America because of the president seem very dumb to me.

 

[Dorian Gray]

Grammatron, I'd like to introduce you to THE POINT. Read the quoted part read the quoted part read the quoted part that says how countries look on Americans FAVORABLY, or FAVOURABLY if you're English.

On the other hand, AUP, if Australians dislike Bush so much, why did they reelect someone who is apparently just like him?

 

[Mr Manifesto]

Grammatron, I'd like to introduce you to THE POINT. Read the quoted part read the quoted part read the quoted part that says how countries look on Americans FAVORABLY, or FAVOURABLY if you're English.

On the other hand, AUP, if Australians dislike Bush so much, why did they reelect someone who is apparently just like him?

He isn't, though. For all of his faults, Howard still isn't the dribbling moron that Bush is. If nothing else, the economy is going quite well under him (whether that's down to him or Peter Costello, the treasurer, is another issue).

 

[Grammatron]

Grammatron, I'd like to introduce you to THE POINT. Read the quoted part read the quoted part read the quoted part that says how countries look on Americans FAVORABLY, or FAVOURABLY if you're English.

On the other hand, AUP, if Australians dislike Bush so much, why did they reelect someone who is apparently just like him?

Well from the article "A co-ordinated survey of attitudes by leading newspapers in 10 nations has revealed a sharp souring of attitudes towards the United States that can be traced to one man: Mr Bush."

Isn't that also the point?

 

[peptoabysmal]

Aren't you the same guy that used that same rag to predict that Howard would lose?

 

[a_unique_person]

Aren't you the same guy that used that same rag to predict that Howard would lose?

They were just publishing the polls at the time, the polls changed since that time.

The survey has been undertaken by different papers around the globe.

 

[Patrick]

So, Americans themselves are not the issue, it is the conservative extremists running US foreign policy who are.

They can blow it out their shorts. American elections are decided by Americans and several thousand illegal alien mexicans - we pretty much don't give a **** what foreigners think about it. There's no telling what your typical looney left wingnut formulation "conservative extermist" means, but I think most people intuitively wouldn't think it applies to Colin Powell.

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[a_unique_person]

So, Americans themselves are not the issue, it is the conservative extremists running US foreign policy who are.

They can blow it out their shorts. American elections are decided by Americans and several thousand illegal alien mexicans - we pretty much don't give a ***** what foreigners think about it. There's no telling what your typical looney left wingnut formulation "conservative extermist" means, but I think most people intuitively wouldn't think it applies to Colin Powell.

This was not a survy of 'looney left' extremists, but a standard survey by professional pollsters.

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[Zep]

...we pretty much don't give a ***** what foreigners think about it...

...and therein lies your problem, Yankee. We "foreigners", your ertswhile allies and friends and supporters, have to live with the mess people like you and Bush create but don't give a shiit about. In fact, it's fairly clear that people like Bush don't even acknowledge we exist, let alone care or even give a shiit about us. And we don't even have the priviledge of the option to vote to make any difference to stuff that profoundly affects our lives and countries. Do you have the faintest idea how conceited that sounds from here? So we are supposed to love you for this??

As AUP's survey shows, we are all quite smart enough to realise that it's not Americans per se who are a problem, it's "the USA" as an entity, and its actions in the world context. And those actions are driven in the main by Bush's team, on your behalf.

Fortunately, there are a significant number of Americans that do care, and do vote with some thought for the results of their actions. They come from all sides of the political spectrum, too, so it's not just "neocon" versus "commie-pinko". You should join these thoughtful people. In using "thought", I mean. So should your presidential cabinet.

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[AWPrime]

If you don't give a $$$$ about us, you can expect that we don't give a $$$$ about you guys.


And if the rest of the world has a different standaard on what conservative extermist means than they are right, because they are the mayority.

 

[Jude]

I'm tempted to vote Bush just to spite the world.

 

[Nikk]

So, Americans themselves are not the issue, it is the conservative extremists running US foreign policy who are.

They can blow it out their shorts. American elections are decided by Americans and several thousand illegal alien mexicans - we pretty much don't give a ***** what foreigners think about it. There's no telling what your typical looney left wingnut formulation "conservative extermist" means, but I think most people intuitively wouldn't think it applies to Colin Powell.

Poor Patty.

I suppose dragging your knuckles on the ground when you walk hurts a lot and makes you really, really, bad tempered doesn't it?

Perhaps you should contact a chiropractor to try and straighten your spine?

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[Nikk]

So, Americans themselves are not the issue, it is the conservative extremists running US foreign policy who are.

Frankly I would quite like Bush to win, partly to see him and his cronies struggle with the consequences of neo conservative cock ups and partly because I think it will lead to a fairly rapid decline in U.S. power. The present situation is undesirable and unstable.

With luck the neo con approach to economics and politics would be discredited and we might see a new liberal ascendency established in the US after 2008.

I might be wrong of course.

 

[AWPrime]

That is what my evil side wants.


My good side (that likes a lot of americans) hopes that Kerry wins.

 

[BPSCG]

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Thanks, Darat. You'd think that the supposedly articulate people here could express themselves forcefully without the use of profanity or juvenile tricks to avoid the autocensor.

Maybe if the entire messages simply got deleted on and "as-found" basis for those offenses, rather than simply electronically bleeped, they'd get the hint. Sometimes you have to hit the jackass over the head with a 2x4 to get his attention.

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