NWO Says overwhelimingly - We Want Kerry

Grammatron said:
Ok hate perhaps was too strong a word, but even disliking America because of the president seem very dumb to me.
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A lot of people dislike France because of Jac Chira. That attitude goes both ways.
 
Grammatron said:
And those people are ....?
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Sean Hannity for one. Bill O'Reilly is another. Does it really matter who these people are? The fact of the matter is that this attitude goes both ways.
 
Tony said:
Sean Hannity for one. Bill O'Reilly is another. Does it really matter who these people are? The fact of the matter is that this attitude goes both ways.
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So they hate all French people because of their leader?

As a side note why are you bringing up @asshats as example of what an average American thinks?
 
Nikk said:
Poor Patty.

I suppose dragging your knuckles on the ground when you walk hurts a lot and makes you really, really, bad tempered doesn't it?

Perhaps you should contact a chiropractor to try and straighten your spine?
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That doesn't fix the problem of his forehead.
 
Grammatron said:
So they hate all French people because of their leader?

As a side note why are you bringing up @asshats as example of what an average American thinks?
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Now you're just inventing reasons to be contentious. I never said or implied either of those (that they hate all french people because of their leader or that I am using them as an example of what the average american thinks).
 
Tony said:
Now you're just inventing reasons to be contentious. I never said or implied either of those (that they hate all french people because of their leader or that I am using them as an example of what the average american thinks).
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Yes and some think there's a Planet X but is there a point in bringing up idiots?
 
Grammatron said:
Yes and some think there's a Planet X but is there a point in bringing up idiots?
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You asked me to name some of those "people" I mentioned. Did you forget? And I've made my point clear twice.

That attitude goes both ways.
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The fact of the matter is that this attitude goes both ways.
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Luke T. said:
Will the rest of the world pay my extra taxes if Kerry is elected?
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How much prerogative tax-raising power does the President have? Doesn't he have to pass any tax-raising bills through Congress - i.e. past a bunch of Republicans?

Aren't your kids going to have to pay your taxes if Bush carries on running up an enormous deficit?
 
Luke T. said:
Will the rest of the world pay my extra taxes if Kerry is elected?
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If you don't want to pay taxes, move to a country where the government doesn't provide public services. Africa has a few, I hear.
 
...and therein lies your problem, Yankee.

It's YOUR problem - YOU are complaining.

We "foreigners", your ertswhile allies and friends and supporters, have to live with the mess people like you and Bush create but don't give a shiit about. In fact, it's fairly clear that people like Bush don't even acknowledge we exist, let alone care or even give a shiit about us. And we don't even have the priviledge of the option to vote to make any difference to stuff that profoundly affects our lives and countries. Do you have the faintest idea how conceited that sounds from here?

One damned word I am tired of hearing is "allies" - quit that crap. You've been sunshine allies. Except for the brits a few times, you've been our allies (in a substantial, non-token way) when we were defending you directly - eg australians in WWII and euroweenies in WWI, WWII, and the cold war. When it's been us taking on the communists or other dictators during the whole post-WWII era, you are nowhere to be seen except sometimes for token participation. All americans grow up listening to a relentless bitching about and ridiculing of americans. We're wrong when we're wrong, and wrong when we're right. We're wrong when we do fight, and wrong when we don't fight. We're just wrong, period. Do you have the faintest idea how americans eventually react to this? After a time we don't hear you anymore because you've lost all credibilty.

As AUP's survey shows, we are all quite smart enough to realise that it's not Americans per se who are a problem, it's "the USA" as an entity, and its actions in the world context. And those actions are driven in the main by Bush's team, on your behalf.

Nonsense - bush is supported by scores of millions of americans, which makes Americans per se the "problem".
 
Mr Manifesto said:
He isn't, though. For all of his faults, Howard still isn't the dribbling moron that Bush is. If nothing else, the economy is going quite well under him (whether that's down to him or Peter Costello, the treasurer, is another issue).
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I thought steve erwin was the king of australia.
 
a_unique_person said:
They were just publishing the polls at the time, the polls changed since that time.

The survey has been undertaken by different papers around the globe.
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When other countries want a certain candidate of the US election to win, I have to question their motives.

I don't have to question the motives of those whose lives hang in the balance:
Troops in survey back Bush 4-to-1 over Kerry
 
Luke T. said:
Will the rest of the world pay my extra taxes if Kerry is elected?
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Maybe indirectly they will. By helping your government a bit more with certain conflicts it's gotten itself into, so your government won't have to pay as much for it, leaving it with more money to do stuff domestically or for taxcuts.

Heck, it isn't even that long ago that the US government asked many of its allies: "Hey, do you want to help us finance those new Joint Strike Fighters. You won't get any contracts for the development of the thing, you won't get any discount on the things when they are ready and not even a garantee that we'll allow you to buy some. That'll be a few gazillion, please."
And those allies said: "Okay!"
 
Matabiri said:
How much prerogative tax-raising power does the President have? Doesn't he have to pass any tax-raising bills through Congress - i.e. past a bunch of Republicans?

Aren't your kids going to have to pay your taxes if Bush carries on running up an enormous deficit?
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Not necessarily, many Republicans are nearly as liberal as Democrats when it comes to social spending which has done the most damage to our economy. They want to get elected too.

I think the single greatest thing we could do is get term limits set on Congress. We have senators who milk the system for 20 years or more.

The deficit is a crock. The fact is that the US national debt has been climbing since the 70's and is in the trillions of dollars. We sold out our grandchildren's grandchildren to government servitude.
 
peptoabysmal said:
When other countries want a certain candidate of the US election to win, I have to question their motives.

I don't have to question the motives of those whose lives hang in the balance:
Troops in survey back Bush 4-to-1 over Kerry
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Which leads to an obvious question, why are their lives hanging in the balance? Did they have to be?
 
peptoabysmal said:
Not necessarily, many Republicans are nearly as liberal as Democrats when it comes to social spending which has done the most damage to our economy. They want to get elected too.

I think the single greatest thing we could do is get term limits set on Congress. We have senators who milk the system for 20 years or more.

The deficit is a crock. The fact is that the US national debt has been climbing since the 70's and is in the trillions of dollars. We sold out our grandchildren's grandchildren to government servitude.
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Are you sure you aren't referring to the debt owed by Americans themselves? That has nothing to do with the government.
 
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