Noah's Ark

I have been to the library that edge has been tested in many times and Randi has pointed out the books with the so-called gold that only became a problem when he failed.

Paul

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If there is real bronze in that ink then it's metal.
But look on the other side of the wall there should be a copy machine there unless they moved it.

Other side of the creek in the park.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAPS1tXlh8E

What a creek does with sand today and size comparison to the giant wave of sand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSvhgpbdGIM

The first part of this clip shows my next spot to mine in.
You know why?

I have to work see ya later.
 
If there is real bronze in that ink then it's metal.
But look on the other side of the wall there should be a copy machine there unless they moved it.
Those items didn't seem to effect the preliminary trials you conducted.

Other side of the creek in the park.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAPS1tXlh8E

What a creek does with sand today and size comparison to the giant wave of sand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSvhgpbdGIM

The first part of this clip shows my next spot to mine in.
You know why?
What is the heck are you trying to say? You keep saying, This is what a creek can do... but you fail to make any logical connection to the flood story.

Why do you want the flood story to be true? Are you trying to prove that god is a genocidal monster?
 
If there is real bronze in that ink then it's metal.
But look on the other side of the wall there should be a copy machine there unless they moved it.
And rip the wire out of the walls, and cut down the outside power lines, and dig up the plumbing, and pull the nails out of the walls and beams etc, etc, etc. You have no idea what the “Inverse square rule” means and how to apply it, do you edge.

Paul

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Those items didn't seem to effect the preliminary trials you conducted.
The problem with them is that it is never, never and never that they could be wrong and should reexamine their ideas, it is always something else that before the test was not a problem and they say it isn’t too.

It would be also nice if edge would give us the dates on the sands and how and who tested the dates.

Paul

:) :) :)
 
The problem with them is that it is never, never and never that they could be wrong and should reexamine their ideas, it is always something else that before the test was not a problem and they say it isn’t too.

It would be also nice if edge would give us the dates on the sands and how and who tested the dates.

Paul

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Can you post a link that explains what Edge's point about sands is? I haven't followed the thread that closely and honestly have absolutely no idea what he's talking about.
 
Can you post a link that explains what Edge's point about sands is? I haven't followed the thread that closely and honestly have absolutely no idea what he's talking about.
It seems to have something to do with the so-called great flood, and end of the ice age, and some sand he found that to him can only be linked to those two things. But again he has not done the real work. I can only guess that he thinks that is how science works.

Paul

:) :) :)
 
It seems to have something to do with the so-called great flood, and end of the ice age, and some sand he found that to him can only be linked to those two things. But again he has not done the real work. I can only guess that he thinks that is how science works.

Paul

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I know I say that he raised the point of the indiana dunes, but I can't imagine how that supports the great floods argument.
As a person who grew up about 20 minutes from the area, I remember learning that what made the dunes special was that the grasses there helped stave off erosion of the sands.

I know that tourism in that area has resulted in destruction of the grasses and increased the erosion rate of the dunes.
http://www.wndu.com/indiana/headlines/20087564.html

But again, I can not see at all how this relates to Noah and the flood.

Not to mention his humerous claim of Bethlehem steel.
 
The tall one I take is Penn, he has a demon in him, it's most noticeable at the moment he puts his hand on his heart, that's body language to say he is sincere and knowledgeable, he has cat like pupils.
We have noticed this also in many actors, it is really noticeable when you see them on a big screen remember I said in the past, the eyes are a window to the soul these two have sold their souls for fame and fortune.....

I just thought I'd point out that this bit has earned a 4.95 out of 5 at http://www.fstdt.com as well as making it clear that Edge cannot be reasoned with.
 
I just thought I'd point out that this bit has earned a 4.95 out of 5 at http://www.fstdt.com as well as making it clear that Edge cannot be reasoned with.
Thanks for the link. Some of the comments cracked me up.

This one was great:
Pyroclasm
#595180
2008-Jun-27 07:44 AM
Dude, I'd sell my soul for a pair of cat eyes.

Those are awesome. You can see in the dark and stuff.
this one was pretty good too
Kronos
#595220
2008-Jun-27 08:13 AM
I wil l have to keep in mind that putting my hand on my heart means that I am sincere, knowledgeable, and have cat-like pupils.
 
It didn’t get a 5 darn… it will.
There are the ones that have no light in their eyes at all too.

Lets see if I can give you a synopsis.

That creek in the park has always been where it is; it hasn’t meandered back and forth since the sand was deposited. Or else it would look like where I’m going to mine.

The layer that is under the sand has to some extent and was moved and polished, since 99% of the rocks in those two layers are round and smoother after the ice age, or during the ice age, under that layer is some rougher stuff that the glacier was in process of moving and hasn’t moved far, below that is bedrock.

The other spot where I am going to mine the creek is a lot bigger and it has meandered back and forth some.
Everything it has piled up, is mixed up and laid down fast, faster than a glacier and then it jams up and changes course. This is from flooding that is normal, it also took out a section of the older giant sand wave and so it gives us a cross section now that’s fairly clean.

But it will never make a deposit of sand as big as the sand wave.

So the sand that is on the top layer can be about 12,000 years old give or take a few years.
It’s on top in the park and it’s totally different than what the river courses deposit, it is loose too. Like the dunes in Indiana.
There are only Maybe six till you hit bedrock in the park the heart of the valley, the central low spot.
To deposit this amount of sand would take an ocean to make those layers and it happened, after the glaciers receded.

There are some clays in there and that’s what makes it semi sticky or hardened
Two things had to be mixed together.

So this valley is east of the pacific and if water was deep enough past the tops of the mountains here, it would have to breach 3500 foot elevation the currents would be west to east that would explain why the big sand wave is on the eastern slops of the valley and why the sand is level in the central part of the valley.

The next valley over which is 25 miles from here is the same and when I go there I will film those sand deposits. I will show you the clays that the glacier made and what it’s consistency is like. Same there about 6 layers on top of that the last layer is about 4 to 6 feet of sand.

Joobz you must of lived in Michigan City or thereabouts and you have stood on the lakeshore so don’t you think there should be more sand there?
Where did it go?
I think the dunes that where there, were much bigger at one time and they got flattened and mixed with clay and pushed down into Indiana and quickly with a great wall of water.

What are left are the parks and dunes we have now.
They are awesome.
But there should be more and rows of them, halfway down the state.
There probably was since the lake and the glacier extended down into Indiana almost to the Ohio River.

We know the this event had to most dramatic effect in the Sahara and the sand on top covers a forest that was there about 12,000 years ago.

The gold that’s here is on the bottom; because the glaciers were scouring the bedrock and tearing chunks out of the veins near the surface that were protruding in all ways and directions/angles…and making them smooth too.
Some ruff gold is found and always near the source and weathering and gravity pulls these pieces and moves them with the newer forces but the smooth gold moved with the same forces that polished the other rocks, This is why the tiniest pieces of gold are usually smooth too, but they started out as bigger pieces.

Where do you think all this sand came from?
Remember in geological terms it was one of the last layers put down on top; the last two are humus, and mulch.
Unless a giant flood in the last 3000 to 12,000 years didn’t do it, normal erosion and flooding wouldn’t make those amounts of sand, let alone settle it in the huge areas that I have been to and recorded. That amount of sand being made in six or 12,000 years won’t happen by erosion only.

Hardened blue and brown clays are the finer deposits of clay that the glaciers set down on the bedrock or real bottom then there are only 6 or 7 layers on top of those and the last layer of light material on them is sand 2 to 6 feet or so deep top layers that haven’t been cut through by water pressure from rivers or creeks.

To the left of the dredge is brown stained clay but inside it's blue.
That's known as a false bottom but it collects from further uo stream what's moving with todays currents and traps the gold.
If you could go between that layer and true bottom we would find more and bigger gold.
 

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It's also gotten very surreal.


Surreal? That's an understatement! Y'all are arguing logic against someone who is incapable of acknowledging reality. It's sorta like discussing quantum mechanics with a brick of cheese. Good luck with that...:D
 
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That's the nice thing about religion. The same thing can be both good and evil.
There are no absolutes, but if the wrong guy is evil, he can be absolutely killed.

That sounds like the foreign policy the people YOU vote for are dishing out with your approval.
 
That sounds like the foreign policy the people YOU vote for are dishing out with your approval.
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Yeah, my bad.
Way back when, I subscribed to Buckley's Joke Book, or, as he titled it, "National Review".
I couldn't believe the absurdities in that collection of conservative "thinking".
I received some benefits though.
A mail box full of pleas from right-wing nut jobs for all the money they could get.
The blue-haired old ladies opening the return leaned some new words, I'm sure.
And an invitation to a $2500 a plate sit-down dinner at the White House with Bush 41, seeing as I was such a staunch Republican.
My only interest in that direction was that single one-year subscription to the magazine.
 
Surreal? That's an understatement! Y'all are arguing logic against someone who is incapable of acknowledging reality.

What's really scary is the fact that Edge thinks the rest of us are incapable of acknowledging reality- the Bible is so obviously true, and we just refuse to see it.
 
You thought you had ordered "National Lampoon", right?
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Not really, but it sure read that way!
Watching Bill on the electric tv, I expected a lot deeper insight into the ways of the world in the magazine.
But it was seriously deficient in just about everything.
Knee-jerk head-up-and-lockstepped responses to -everything- that could possibly be considered.... dare I use the term.. "liberal".
I was amused to get the invite though.
Reminded me of the time a copy of a program showed up at work, with the warranty card still in it.
I sent that in, and got on their magazine list, which is all I expected.. but later got an freebie update to the program, as well.
That was useful.
 
Ya got to love it when all they have is snide remarks, No answers to what is truly reality.

So now throw out assumptions that I can’t understand a higher form of science.
But what we are discussing, "the proof in geology" not quantum mechanics.
A side step, of the issue at hand, and attack of the message, through the messenger.
Typical, that’s all you got?

That insult really discredited the information…NOT!

Here's another one:
What's really scary is the fact that Edge thinks the rest of us are incapable of acknowledging reality- the Bible is so obviously true, and we just refuse to see it.

What's hilarious is that you don't acknowledge God, even with proof right in your face.
These formations are science fact, isn't that what you believe in?
You do when it suits you.
 
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It didn’t get a 5 darn… it will.
There are the ones that have no light in their eyes at all too.
What does this mean?
Edge, you really need to focus when you write. it is extremely hard to follow you.


Lets see if I can give you a synopsis.

That creek in the park has always been where it is; it hasn’t meandered back and forth since the sand was deposited. Or else it would look like where I’m going to mine.
meaning what? How lon is always?


The layer that is under the sand has to some extent and was moved and polished, since 99% of the rocks in those two layers are round and smoother after the ice age, or during the ice age, under that layer is some rougher stuff that the glacier was in process of moving and hasn’t moved far, below that is bedrock.

The other spot where I am going to mine the creek is a lot bigger and it has meandered back and forth some.
Everything it has piled up, is mixed up and laid down fast, faster than a glacier and then it jams up and changes course. This is from flooding that is normal, it also took out a section of the older giant sand wave and so it gives us a cross section now that’s fairly clean.

But it will never make a deposit of sand as big as the sand wave.
What's a sand wave?

So the sand that is on the top layer can be about 12,000 years old give or take a few years.
based upon what calculation?

It’s on top in the park and it’s totally different than what the river courses deposit, it is loose too. Like the dunes in Indiana.
There are only Maybe six till you hit bedrock in the park the heart of the valley, the central low spot.
To deposit this amount of sand would take an ocean to make those layers and it happened, after the glaciers receded.
why?



Joobz you must of lived in Michigan City or thereabouts and you have stood on the lakeshore so don’t you think there should be more sand there?
Near there. I was closer to gary.
Why should there be more? Based upon what assumptions?

Where did it go?
I think the dunes that where there, were much bigger at one time and they got flattened and mixed with clay and pushed down into Indiana and quickly with a great wall of water.
no.
it's clear that the sand in the dunes have been eroding for years.
 
What does all this have to do with:

I wonder, isn't it 'easy' to debunk (or not) this story by building a virtual ark?
You need a few experts, shipbuilder, some biologists, botanicals, stable builders and others.
And yes, some to make the actual simulation.
What do you think?
 

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