Merged New telepathy test: which number did I write ?

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Here, it's different from your case it seems, because mods always post as mods (it's always visible they're mods).

So now you also think you know how a Board you have never seen or heard of designates Mods/Admins. Your powers seem to be growing. and getting more wrong day by day. Check a few Boards out. I think you will find the Mod designation pretty standard on most Boards.

...vivid that it was as if he had just written the number himself, in front of his eyes.

You might want to point out where he said "as if" and "in front of his eyes". I missed that bit, or did you just make it up to justify your claim? Simply show me where he said what you said he said.

Or are you just putting words into his mouth/post because that is what you have to do to justify your position on his post? Stop making stuff up that was never said.

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Interesting parallel here- fundie theists are fond of saying "everyone knows there is a god, some people just won't admit it"; Michel says "everyone knows I'm telepathic, some people just won't admit it." At least the theists aren't making themselves the center of the belief.
 
Here, it's different from your case it seems, because mods always post as mods (it's always visible they're mods).
And I don't think Loss Leader said that he just wrote himself the number. What he said (roughly) was that the mental image of the number was so clear and vivid that it was as if he had just written the number himself, in front of his eyes.


No, Fromdownunder is exactly correct. The joke was that I was looking at the 4 I'd just written. I would also point out that this occurred very, very early in your thread, long before I realized that jokes, sarcasm and derision were not appropriate ways to deal with you. If I'd know how deeply ill you were, I never would have said anything that might have fed into your sad mental condition.



Interesting parallel here- fundie theists are fond of saying "everyone knows there is a god, some people just won't admit it"; Michel says "everyone knows I'm telepathic, some people just won't admit it." At least the theists aren't making themselves the center of the belief.


Well, you're not wrong. Both have a persistent, fixed delusion. The difference is the cause of the delusion. Michel's is caused by a degradation in brain function. However, a healthy brain can be "programmed" by parents, teachers, friends, and social signals to believe all sorts of nonsense. The key question is whether the delusion disrupts normal life skills.

In the case of fundamentalist christians, they can pretty much dress, feed and support themselves. They can form friendships. They retain some plasticity: they can be convinced of new things.

In the case of the mentally ill, their delusions pull them away from relationships, make it difficult for them to interact in social settings, and eventually may cause them to neglect their own care or harm themselves or others. The mere existence of a delusion isn't on the differential.
 
Interesting parallel here- fundie theists are fond of saying "everyone knows there is a god, some people just won't admit it"; Michel says "everyone knows I'm telepathic, some people just won't admit it." At least the theists aren't making themselves the center of the belief.
I think that your sentence "everyone knows I'm telepathic, some people just won't admit it." is actually fairly accurate. However being "telepathic" is neither a (good) quality nor a talent, it is more a specificity, a "feature" of a particular individual, something unusual, special, that (to my knowledge at least) does not occur every day. I don't think this somewhat odd feature makes me better or superior to anyone, and, needless to say, I don't claim to be a god. As a scientist, I have an ethics of fairly rigorous respect of the truth, this is why (I suppose) I am present on various forums, doing from time to time telepathy tests. If you have rubbish in your backyard that stinks, there are two possibilities: either you close all doors and windows tightly, and you never go there any more; or you go out, investigate and clean up the mess. I am more in favor of the second possibility (even if I am not perfect, of course).
 
I think that your sentence "everyone knows I'm telepathic, some people just won't admit it." is actually fairly accurate.


It's an extremely accurate description of what you believe.

It has, however, nothing at all to do with the reality of the situation.



However being "telepathic" is neither a (good) quality nor a talent, it is more a specificity, a "feature" of a particular individual, something unusual, special, that (to my knowledge at least) does not occur every day.


It doesn't occur at all.

Ironically, it's fervent believers such as yourself who do the most to demonstrate this.



I don't think this somewhat odd feature makes me better or superior to anyone, and, needless to say, I don't claim to be a god.


What odd feature?

You seem to be forgetting that you have yet to demonstrate even the feeblest amount of telepathic ability.



As a scientist, I have an ethics of fairly rigorous respect of the truth, this is why (I suppose) I am present on various forums, doing from time to time telepathy tests.


As a god-king I have an ethos (please note the spelling) of a far more rigorous respect for the truth than any mere mortal (and self-styled) scientist. This is why I am present on various forums, pointing out how ridiculous are the claims made by believers in the paranormal.



If you have rubbish in your backyard that stinks, there are two possibilities: either you close all doors and windows tightly, and you never go there any more; or you go out, investigate and clean up the mess. I am more in favor of the second possibility (even if I am not perfect, of course).


It might reasonably be said that a wiser choice would have been not to have strewn garbage all over the place to begin with.
 
I think that your sentence "everyone knows I'm telepathic, some people just won't admit it." is actually fairly accurate.

Compare these two possibilities:

1. Many of us know you are telepathic, but refuse to admit it.

2. You are not telepathic.

Any chance possibility number 2 is correct?
 
I think that I can say with confidence that I remember well and that I understood well what my mother told me (in addition, I have written it down, to be sure).

That doesn't answer my question. Do you feel you are as able to accurately represent your mother's words as you are Loss Leaders? I'm asking you to compare your confidence levels here.

Ideally, I would like to have "my telepathy" recognized, and to see the persecutions against me end. I am also considering writing and submitting for publication a scientific article about "my (hypothetical) telepathy".

How do these tests help? If, as you believe, everyone can already hear your telepathy, and knows you are telepathic, but are determined to lie about it, what difference would a test make (even if you could pass it)? Even if you scored 100% all the time, what makes you think those persecuting you would change their approach?

The term schizophrenia was invented by the Swiss psychiatrist Bleuler in 1908, before I was born. But you might want to take a look at this article:
https://web.archive.org/web/20120826050539/http://www.antipsychiatry.org/schizoph.htm
Last updated in 2001, it was written by a lawyer who has represented psychiatric "patients". Its title is: SCHIZOPHRENIA, A Nonexistent Disease.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say here. I'm not much interested in what a lawyer wrote on blog in the 90's. Are you saying you do not believe schizophrenia exists?
 
...What odd feature?

You seem to be forgetting that you have yet to demonstrate even the feeblest amount of telepathic ability.
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I believe I have provided substantial evidence, that even a 10-year old child can understand, for example:
... I do indeed have ESP, and know for a fact that he wrote 2!
(ESP means "Extra-Sensory Perception")
The above answer by calwaterbear was verified by the use of a MD5 hash.
In addition, I think you have shown yourself, personally, a certain ability, tendency and talent to correctly perceive my thoughts.
The problem is, though (it seems to me), that to those who are determined to (criminally) lie, no amount of evidence offered will really make any difference. You live on your imaginary skeptical planet, (over)protected by society, you feel good there, and you don't feel you should change.
 
...What odd feature?

You seem to be forgetting that you have yet to demonstrate even the feeblest amount of telepathic ability.
...


I believe I have provided substantial evidence, that even a 10-year old child can understand, for example:


... I do indeed have ESP, and know for a fact that he wrote 2!


(ESP means "Extra-Sensory Perception")
The above answer by calwaterbear was verified by the use of a MD5 hash.


Please post the rest of calwaterbear's contributions to the discussion so I might better be able to appraise this claim.



In addition, I think you have shown yourself, personally, a certain ability, tendency and talent to correctly perceive my thoughts.


What you believe is irrelevant. As I posted above, you have yet to provide any evidence at all with which to support your claims.



The problem is, though (it seems to me), that to those who are determined to (criminally) lie, no amount of evidence offered will really make any difference.


Hyperbole much?



You live on your imaginary skeptical planet, (over)protected by society, you feel good there, and you don't feel you should change.


I'm sensing something! I'm going to hazard a guess that it's projection.
 
Michel,
What can anyone say that would satisfy you that your thoughts are not being detected by them?
I believe that the evidence (observed every day) in favor of my telepathy hypothesis is enormous, and there is probably very little you can do to change my conviction. Trying to convince me that telepathy doesn't exist would be somewhat like trying to convince somebody who is trying to swim in a lake that water does not exist and is just an illusion. Do not think that stupid and dishonest verbal violence coming from the "skeptical microcosm" is going to impress me a lot. It has been pointed out recently on this forum that the initials of "International Skeptics" are the same as those of "Islamic State", this gives you an idea (although it is not a proof) about the (sometimes) poor intellectual and ethical level of discussions here.
 
.. there is probably very little you can do to change my conviction.

Thank you for your response.


For my part, there is very little you can do to change my conviction that you do not have ESP or telepathic abilities.

For many other posters here, the same is true: you have very little chance of convincing them to believe you. The reasons are all documented in this thread.

Given all this, what do you hope to do on this forum?
 
I believe I have provided substantial evidence, that even a 10-year old child can understand, for example:

... I do indeed have ESP, and know for a fact that he wrote 2!

(ESP means "Extra-Sensory Perception")
The above answer by calwaterbear was verified by the use of a MD5 hash.

Even if you believe that cwb was being serious, he clearly states that he has ESP, not that you have telepathy. How is his claimed ability to read minds evidence that you can transmit thoughts?
 
I believe that the evidence (observed every day) in favor of my telepathy hypothesis is enormous, and there is probably very little you can do to change my conviction. Trying to convince me that telepathy doesn't exist would be somewhat like trying to convince somebody who is trying to swim in a lake that water does not exist and is just an illusion. Do not think that stupid and dishonest verbal violence coming from the "skeptical microcosm" is going to impress me a lot. It has been pointed out recently on this forum that the initials of "International Skeptics" are the same as those of "Islamic State", this gives you an idea (although it is not a proof) about the (sometimes) poor intellectual and ethical level of discussions here.

So many snarky comments came to mind. I think it is best to just keep this as a reminder of the struggle Michel faces every day.
 
Thank you for your response.


For my part, there is very little you can do to change my conviction that you do not have ESP or telepathic abilities.

For many other posters here, the same is true: you have very little chance of convincing them to believe you. The reasons are all documented in this thread.

Given all this, what do you hope to do on this forum?
I have been trying to answer questions politely (like this one).
 
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