New SCOTUS Judge

[Belz...]

It's true.

I was raised in a liberal democrat family, primarily by a feminist (and very intelligent) mother.

I love the little tells.

Like when someone refers to a black person as educated.

Progressives in meltdown mode is always satisfying, and a sheer pleasure to watch. But defeating Hillary was as good as it gets. The Kavanaugh nomination, enjoyable as it has been, will soon fade from memory right after his inevitable confirmation. But still, we can thank the hysterical Dimms for giving us a few weeks of joyous laughter at their expense.

Speaks volumes, doesn't it, when you value mocking your imagined enemies over doing what's right for the country.

 

[Bob001]

Some perspectives:

Kavanaugh’s freshman-year roommate at Yale had told the New Yorker that the future Supreme Court nominee could become “aggressive “and “belligerent” when drunk. But, as millions have now seen with their own eyes, he is aggressive and belligerent when stone-cold sober.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...e8-a1f0-a4051b6ad114_story.html?noredirect=on

"False in one thing, false in everything,” Blumenthal replied. “Meaning in jury instructions that we — some of us as prosecutors have heard many times, is — told the jury that they can disbelieve a witness if they find them to be false in one thing.”

Blumenthal's point was that the exceptional hearings centered on the credibility of Kavanaugh and his accuser, Christine Blasey Ford, who alleged that she'd been assaulted by Kavanaugh at a house party in 1982 when both were in high school. Over the course of his testimony, though, Kavanaugh offered several answers to questions that stretched or misrepresented the truth.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...timony-was-misleading-or-wrong/?noredirect=on

We don’t know for certain whether Kavanaugh sexually assaulted Ford. But we do know that Kavanaugh lied repeatedly in his testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee. Here are some of his lies.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/09/kavanaugh-lied-senate-judiciary-committee.html

The classical root of “privilege,” privus lex, means “private law.” The French aristocracy, for instance, was endowed with privileges, primarily exemption from taxation. Today’s equivalents are not aristocrats, yet they have both the sense and the experience that the rules don’t really apply to them and that they can act without much concern for the consequences. Elite schools like Georgetown Prep and Yale have long cultivated this sensibility in conscious and unconscious ways.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...e8-b338-a3289f6cb742_story.html?noredirect=on

 

[Segnosaur]

Re: Linsey Graham meltdown....

I really wonder what's going through his mind. There are rumors that it was an attempt to get into Trump's good graces so that he might get appointed to Trump's cabinet, but given the amount of turnover and/or the possibility of Trump losing the next election that could be a very short term position (so he's gong to leave a relatively comfortable senate position for a year or 2 in cabinet.)

Perhaps he's trying to set himself up for a presidential bid, but not sure if trying to be a Trump clone would work for him (since he can't claim to be an 'outsider').

Or possibly he believes what he said.

I have seen clips of Graham in the past, talking about the need for moral standards in public office. For him to now go and complain when a republican nominee is under scrutiny is extremely hypocritical.

Graham about Bill Clinton: "You don’t even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job in this constitutional republic. If this body determines that your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role."

Perhaps he does truly believe what he says. Not the first time he's been incredibly 2-faced. After all, he's the guy who called Trump a 'kook' in 2016, then complained in 2017 that people were calling Trump a kook.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/30/16720814/lindsey-graham-trump-kook

 

[The Big Dog]

I’m glad they get so much enjoyment out of it. Here, as out in the real world, there are multiple posters here who really don’t seem to give a damn about this country, as long as they are supporting their party or upsetting the Trumpsters or whatever.

I don’t think they’re taking into account, however, a lot of other people; including - but by no means limited to - people like me, a middle-aged, straight, white, Christian man (married, faithfully, to one woman, unlike so many of their idols), who’s a Democrat, and who’s deeply angry about the willful destruction of our country by these corrupt, hypocritical quislings.

They may very well win the battle of slandering a sitting United States Circuit Judge who has not had a whiff of scandal in the entire time he has been on the bench in order to attack Trump, but the long-term cost in driving away people like me has yet to be calculated. And when I say “driving away”, I mean I will never vote for a Democrat against any other party ever again, and I’m now highly motivated to not just vote, but actively work against them at every level. Well, that’s what happens when the unhinged democrats make a mockery of the system

 

[The Big Dog]

Who said herself that the process wasn't the right way to deal with an accusation of sexual assault/ attempted rape. But no, you carry on being selective in what you hear.

Cite?

By the way, you are not really asserting that she did not lead the questioning, are you, because I think everyone "heard" that.

 

[Belz...]

That Kavanaugh assaulted Ford is unproven. That he lied several times yesterday seems pretty clear.

Should people who lie under oath be rewarded with a SCOTUS nomination?

Was he under oath yesterday?

 

[theprestige]

I really wonder what's going through his mind.

Graham went to University of South Carolina. Whatever is going through his head, it's probably not that rapey Ivy League crap that you'd get from, say, a Yale grad.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

You do understand that the bar consists of nearly 400000 members? These members did not vote on the issue or make the statement. The president did as a spokeperson (check the calendar, or if you need more evidence request it)

The spokesperson for the ABA spoke, but it's being discounted, because he's only the spokesperson ?

What the actual **** ?

You should also understand that Brett Kavanaugh's ABA rating remains unchanged.

Irrelevant.

BUT - if the rating of the ABA remains important, then they call for an investigation from the ABA should also be important, no ?

 

[River]

I’m glad they get so much enjoyment out of it. Here, as out in the real world, there are multiple posters here who really don’t seem to give a damn about this country, as long as they are “owning the libs“ or upsetting the leftists or whatever.

I don’t think they’re taking into account, however, a lot of other people; including - but by no means limited to - people like me, a middle-aged, straight, white, Christian man (married, faithfully, to one woman, unlike so many of their idols), who’s not a Democrat, and who’s deeply angry about the willful destruction of our country by these corrupt, hypocritical quislings.

They may very well win the battle of selecting a serial perjurer, apparent blackout drunk, and quite possible sexual predator to SCOTUS in order to protect Trump, but the long-term cost in driving away people like me has yet to be calculated. And when I say “driving away”, I mean I will never vote for a Republican again, and I’m now highly motivated to not just vote, but actively work against them at every level. Well, that’s owning the libs.

Touche. The crazy rhetoric and identity politics of the DNC are making me come to the same conclusion about never voting democrat again. Insane at times. This is coming from someone that voted for Obama both terms.

 

[The_Animus]

Why do you all keep treating some of the members here as if they're rational, compassionate people?

They don't care if he lied repeatedly. They don't care if he committed sexually assault. They don't care about democratic principles or liberty or anything like that and they've admitted as much in various discussions.

They only care about upsetting "the other tribe" and "winning" at any cost, even to themselves and their country.

Giving them such attention despite their posts being consistently worthless is exactly what they want.

 

[Belz...]

I’m glad they get so much enjoyment out of it. Here, as out in the real world, there are multiple posters here who really don’t seem to give a damn about this country, as long as they are “owning the libs“ or upsetting the leftists or whatever.

What's ironic about that is how childish it is, considering that conservatives always try to paint themselves as the adults in the room, compared to the whiny liberals. Now they're the ones acting like toddlers.

 

[dmaker]

I believed the testimony provided yesterday was under oath? Was it not? I watched it periodically from work. I missed opening remarks, so I cannot say I saw any oath administered. Perhaps I was mistaken.

I believe he was lying about his alcohol habits during high school and college.

I believe he lied about Devils Triangle.

I believe he lied about Renate Alumnus

I believe he lied about his weak stomach and easy vomiting.

I believe he was lying when he said he did not know if "Bart O'Kavanaugh" was in reference to him.

I also believe his constant filibustering to avoid questioning about things like the possibility of an FBI investigation were deliberate and an attempt to prevent potential incriminating facts being uncovered.

 

[BobTheCoward]

The judiciary committee has staff lawyers that are fully licensed and fully qualified to conduct the investigation, indeed both sides have staff counsel who undertake to investigate (of course here, the democrats refused to participate because of course)

the questioning was lead by a career sex crimes prosecutor. Or was it one of those lawyers that told Graham the best way to question someone was to

So, gonna go right ahead and disagree,

Those staff lawyers were not conducting the investigation yesterday. Or was it one of those lawyers that told Graham and Booker the best way to question an alleged perpetrator was to do what they did?

The questioning of one party was led by her and was clearly an inadequate length of time and inadequate manner with five minute pauses.

 

[River]

Since the president is the head of the ABA,it's a distinction without a difference.



Irrelevant.

If they rating of the ABA remains important, then they call for an investigation from the ABA should also be important, no ?

Apparently the chair of the committee agrees with my perception of it, not yours. The ABA is a volunteer private organization entitled to their opinion like any other regardless of who or what they support.

 

[Belz...]

The calculation is that they won't need you anymore. They can keep control of the country with a shrinking minority of votes because of control of SCOTUS and increasingly aggressive voter suppression and intimidation efforts and gerrymandering. You're witnessing the final moves in a slow moving coup d'etat.

Actually, these moves are in response to the shrinking minority. They can't get their way democratically because theirs is, for now anyway, a dying breed, so they have to use other methods.

 

[uke2se]

Why do you all keep treating some of the members here as if they're rational, compassionate people?

They don't care if he lied repeatedly. They don't care if he committed sexually assault. They don't care about democratic principles or liberty or anything like that and they've admitted as much in various discussions.

They only care about upsetting "the other tribe" and "winning" at any cost, even to themselves and their country.

Giving them such attention despite their posts being consistently worthless is exactly what they want.

So true. The Republican Party now consist of racists, sexists, idiots and trolls, and we're seeing it here as well as in the real world.

 

[The Big Dog]

Those staff lawyers were not conducting the investigation yesterday. Or was it one of those lawyers that told Graham and Booker the best way to question an alleged perpetrator was to do what they did?

The questioning of one party was led by her and was clearly an inadequate length of time and inadequate manner with five minute pauses.

five minute pauses? Ah, just making stuff up now.

 

[Bob001]

The judiciary committee has staff lawyers that are fully licensed and fully qualified to conduct the investigation, indeed both sides have staff counsel who undertake to investigate (of course here, the democrats refused to participate because of course)
.....

"Licensed and fully qualified?" You don't need a license to ask questions, and staff political operatives hardly have experience or resources comparable to the FBI. The FBI could go out and talk to everybody that Ford and Kav named as witnesses, all of his other accusers, everybody who knew them, their classmates, and anybody else who might have relevant information. They even have the power to prosecute liars. It's astonishing that Kav himself isn't screaming "I'm innocent. Let's sic the FBI on all these fools." But he's not. There is just no reason why a lifetime appointment to the highest legal authority in America should be rushed.

 

[Bob001]

five minute pauses? Ah, just making stuff up now.

Each senator got five minutes. The prosecutor spoke for one Republican senator for five minutes, then a Democratic senator spoke for him/herself for five minutes, then the sides switched again. The prosecutor asked questions in five-minute increments for each Republican, interrupted by five-minute increments used by Democrats. Seems pretty clear.

 

[Belz...]

five minute pauses? Ah, just making stuff up now.