New Pentagon composite photo

DGM said:
Do you really need to? The remains of the plane and passengers were all over the place.
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The more obvious question is, after learning about the nature of the camera, does he really expect the video to be conclusive one way or another? You are correct; the physical evidence speaks for itself.
 
Tweeter, you're not claiming that flight 77 didn't hit the Pentagon, are you? Even the conspiracy loons think that idea is loony.
 
If they`re loons why would i believe them?
I live by Buddha`s famous quote, sig worthy i might add.

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense."
Buddha
 
Tweeter said:
If they`re loons why would i believe them?
I live by Buddha`s famous quote, sig worthy i might add.

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense."
Buddha
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That's nonsense. Evidence – and reality – often don't agree with personal "reason" and "common sense." Get a better teacher.

Tell me this: do you believe the witness accounts and other evidence on these pages? Take your time to read them.
 
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yeah Buddha was dumb, wasnt he?
I`ll read them and get back to ya, but i`ll tell ya right now its hard for me to believe witnesses from either viewpoint.
 
Tweeter said:
yeah Buddha was dumb, wasnt he?
I`ll read them and get back to ya, but i`ll tell ya right now its hard for me to believe witnesses from either viewpoint.
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Buddha was never faced with an event hugely documented that went against common sense, obviously. Dumb? Of course not. Died centuries ago? Yup. Well then perhaps as an intellectual exorcise you can try to figure out why the vast majority of eye witnesses support the official story.
 
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Tweeter said:
I`ll read them and get back to ya, but i`ll tell ya right now its hard for me to believe witnesses from either viewpoint.
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From either viewpoint? I'm giving you dozens of witnesses who saw flight 77 hit the Pentagon. No one who saw the attack claims otherwise. No one who investigate the attack claims otherwise. None of the physical evidence says otherwise. Does your "common sense" trump the witness experiences, the investigators' findings, and all the physical evidence?
 
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Tweeter said:
Sorry Gravy.... to long didnt read.
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I expected nothing less. Why argue from an informed position when you can argue from ignorance? Ignorance is sooo much easier!
 
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Lord Siddhartha did not live in a time where man commanded forces that have no real analog in common experience. Moreover, he was not talking about interpretation of the physical world, but interpretation of the acts of MAN. Were he alive to speak to you today, he would tell you to learn the science that can be learned and to use ALL of that to interpret what was actually observed. He would caution you to not imagine that which is not, and to confine your mind only to that which is.
 
Regarding security on the gropunds outside the Pentagon, boots on the ground are the ideal surveilance mechanism. A live guard walking a beat can hear things. An intruder would have to make very careful observations over an extended period of time to determine where a guard might be at any given time, and then has to hope that the most hide-bound fool who always makes the same circuit at the same time has just passed his point of entry when he intrudes.

Having worked secruity, both civilian and military, I would not, nor would most people I know, keep to a rigid schedule, other than to rendevous with another guard for a mandatory report. It pays to be unpredictable.

Mechanical devices are easier to defeat by simple mathematic applications.

Most important areas covered by cameras are parking lots and entrances. Some of those required visual identification of the individual entering.

There is no reason to expect better coverage of the grounds.

To address the positioning of the cable spools, hopefully for the last time, the photograph shows them stood on end. They are heavy and probably subject to being over turned only by massive forces. I should expect the turbulence beneath an aircraft to have scattered them more laterally. I think they were skimmed by the fuselage. This would, of course, put the aircraft well over the surface of the lawn as it came in for impact.
 
Tweeter said:
I`ll read them and get back to ya
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Tweeter said:
Sorry Gravy.... to long didnt read.
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Sadly, that's the truth™ movement in a nutshell being demonstrated right there.

Too lazy to read, too inept to learn, and too frigging stupid to realize how lazy, inept and stupid they are. Very sad, really.
 
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Gravy said:
From either viewpoint? I'm giving you dozens of witnesses who saw flight 77 hit the Pentagon. No one who saw the attack claims otherwise. No one who investigate the attack claims otherwise. None of the physical evidence says otherwise. Does your "common sense" trump the witness experiences, the investigators' findings, and all the physical evidence?
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For that matter, I'm not sure there is anyone that was inside the Pentagon & knows what a JPL fire smells like claims otherwise either.
 
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