New Pentagon composite photo

Boone: I wrote a PM today with another member of this forum where I expressed the same view, that the spools should have been upright pre-attack rather than as illustrated in the graphic, so I agree. I think the other pre-attack photos show the same thing.
 
I can't believe how many twoofers are still Pentagon no-planers.

And these people have the nerve to dismiss the WTC no-planers as "disinfo."
 
I do not recall seeing any kind of framework for a spindle to support the spools. It would have to be massive. I have only worked a couiple construction sites where there were spools of this size and they tended to leave them standing up like tables so they could just unwrap the cables. THe ground here is kind of soft and a frame work would pose a risk of sinking into the ground and becoming unstable. I don't think the ground is all that firm around the Pentagon, either. That may be one of the reasons they brought in the sand and gravel during recovery.
 
One last question.
Why does the most secure building in the world have less(1) cameras than your average grocery store?
 
Why do you think that there is anything on the outside of the building that needs a camera to protect it?
 
Pentagon security is primarily concerned with who enters the parking lots and the building and where they go once inside. That concern does not extend to airliners.
 
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Gravy said:
Pentagon security is primarily concerned with who enters the parking lots and the building and where they go once inside. That concern does not extend to airliners.
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Now you're just being silly, I mean come on, where were the cameras that showed where the plane entered the building and where it went once inside, huhu, huh? I bet you can't answer that, so you must just be a disinformatist shill being paid by the NASA space repilioid illuminazis. :rolleyes:
 
Gravy said:
Pentagon security is primarily concerned with who enters the parking lots and the building and where they go once inside. That concern does not extend to airliners.
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Lets suppose that were true since you have no evidence nor do I have any of where the cameras are.
Could there be a camera somewhere on the perimeter near where the plane first came in?
 
Tweeter said:
Lets suppose that were true since you have no evidence nor do I have any of where the cameras are.
Could there be a camera somewhere on the perimeter near where the plane first came in?
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Here's a quote from Rich at the BAUT forum, a Pentagon employee.

"Why isn't there more video? Without telling too much of what I know of Pentagon security, you would be surprised how few cameras there are outside the building. Humans actively patrolling a building's perimeter are a tad more effective than dozens of monitors which may or may not be watched at any given moment."
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Dylan Avery can confirm that: he's been detained twice by Pentagon security in cars. You know, like William LaGasse, the security guard who was an eyewitness to the flight 77 attack.

I believe Russell Pickering has posted a photo of what appears to be a security camera installation near the impact zone. It's one of those reflective domes, so there's no way to tell what, if anything, is inside it. Was it a camera? Was it pointed at the approach or crash area? Was it in use, or had its use been discontinued years ago or due to construction? Was it recording? Was its recording destroyed in the attack? All we know is that the FBI says they don't have any videos that show the attack other than what's already been released. The Pentagon isn't going to reveal the details of their security system to you.

Do you have any reason to believe that the FBI wouldn't release video of the attack, as they did with the two parking lot videos and the WTC videos that were in their posssession, and as they did with the Citgo and Doubletree video, which were released after FOIA requests but that don't show the attack? I don't.
 
I dont like to speculate so i wont answer your questions.There were stories about video taken from outside of the Pentagon that were confiscated. Any truth to that?
 
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especially when one of the frames from the carpark camera actually shows what would be the best shot of Flight 77 that you are going to get from a security camera. Unforunately AA's paint job (or lack there of) makes it merge into the background well enough that it's pretty hard to see with the resolution the camera gives.
 
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I dont like to speculate so i wont answer your questions.There were stories about video taken from outside of the Pentagon that were confiscated. Any truth to that?
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Yes, the Gas Station Footage, and the Hotel Footage, both of which have since been released, and help neither side.

TAM:)

PS: Despite not agreeing with any of your positions thus far, I do like your avatar...

TAM:)
 
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