Cont: Mueller Investigation pt3

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Sherkeu said:
I think it means he isn't upset about it. I don't think he is capable of being angry and not tweeting!
Their lawyers coordinate under a joint-defense agreement so Trump would have known about this. Sounds like this was agreed to by all parties before the plea.
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Unless Manafort's crew backed out of it before they proceeded with the plea negotiations.

It isn't a death pact. They can leave when they want to. And that is whenever they think it is to the most benefit for their client.
 
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Sherkeu said:
I think it means he isn't upset about it. I don't think he is capable of being angry and not tweeting!
Their lawyers coordinate under a joint-defense agreement so Trump would have known about this. Sounds like this was agreed to by all parties before the plea.
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quadraginta said:
Unless Manafort's crew backed out of it before they proceeded with the plea negotiations.

It isn't a death pact. They can leave when they want to. And that is whenever they think it is to the most benefit for their client.
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THIS.

A Joint Defence Agreement doesn't operate the in same way as a class action (where all the litigants are represented by the same lawyer or set of lawyers). A JDA is simply an agreement that allows the sharing of relevant information between the attorneys of individual clients facing similar or related litigation without a requirement to waive attorney-client privilege.

Note the operative word there.... "allows". There is no compulsion upon any party in the agreement to share any information. In fact, from the point at which Manaflip started negotiating for a plea deal, his lawyer would almost certainly have stopped sharing any information, at least with respect those negotiations..
 
smartcooky said:
He can give them EVERYTHING that was actually said in the Trump Tower meeting where they supposedly discussed "adoptions" (yeah, right), because he was present. This is what he gives them that Cohen cannot.

If they were discussing a conspiracy with Russians to affect the 2016 election, then Dolt JR (at least) is in deep deep doo doo. But more to the point, if Dolt 45 himself was actually listening in, then Manaflip will know it... and he will have to tell, and that is big trouble for Dolt 45, because it clarifies not only what he knew, but when he knew it.
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I guess.

Most striking for me is this connection with Watergate: all the criminal scumbags are really bad at covering up their crimes.
 
smartcooky said:
THIS.

A Joint Defence Agreement doesn't operate the in same way as a class action (where all the litigants are represented by the same lawyer or set of lawyers). A JDA is simply an agreement that allows the sharing of relevant information between the attorneys of individual clients facing similar or related litigation without a requirement to waive attorney-client privilege.

Note the operative word there.... "allows". There is no compulsion upon any party in the agreement to share any information. In fact, from the point at which Manaflip started negotiating for a plea deal, his lawyer would almost certainly have stopped sharing any information, at least with respect those negotiations..
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Possible. We'll see if that is what happened.

Trump is also is a very unique position of being able to pardon Manafort so anything he says now could add a big item to the impeachment list. It would look like he was complaining about Manafort not holding up his end of a quid pro quo. Obstruction, right?

My other pet theory is that Fox News didn't report on it most of the day. Literally no mention til late in the day. If they had a segment calling Manafort a traitor, then maybe we might have seen a tweet!
 
Wait. U.S. Republicans have something called the International Republican Institute, and Kilimnik worked for the Institute from Moscow for 10 years until "he was reportedly forced out of his job because of suspicion about his ties to Russia"?

That's as reported in the article linked earlier and entitled Konstantin Kilimnik: 5 fast facts you need to know.

The chairman of the board was John McCain!

According to its "About Us" page on its website, the organization is a "nonprofit, nonpartisan organization that is committed to freedom and democracy worldwide" ... The IRI is funded by the U.S. government and reported a budget of $78 million in 2008.
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A nonpartisan "Republican Institute"? This makes so little sense that I wonder if I'm misreading something. I mean, if it were a group of Democrats promoting democracy, that doesn't sound horrible but I wonder why it has any federal funding at all. I am exceedingly :confused:, :boggled: and :eek: about what exactly these 400 folks do, and why I'm apparently paying for it - an average of $185K per staff member. Maybe the Institute has some nice foreign benefactor who is too modest to acknowledge their gift to the U.S.

So strange.
 
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The IRI doesn't really have anything to do with the GOP. It's goals are to promote democracy and good governance in unstable regions like parts of the Americas, the Middle East and the former Soviet Union.
 
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The Great Zaganza said:
The IRI doesn't really have anything to do with the GOP. It's goals are to promote democracy and good governance in unstable regions like parts of the Americas, the Middle East and the former Soviet Union.
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I thought it might be something like this, but it just sounded weird. What do they do, specifically? Do other countries mind that the U.S. does a certain amount of meddling of its own?
 
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It is funny....but isn't this bad news for his brother Tony?

Podesta group is one of the companies being investigated for lobbying on behalf of a foreign power without registering. Manafort paid Podesta for his work on the Ukraine campaign through a phony NGO front company. I doubt anyone would have noticed it if not for the Special Counsel which made the referral.
*Podesta Group ("Company B") dealings are pages 22-27 of the 38-page criminal information document.

It's weird how small the circles are in these things.
 
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Minoosh said:
I thought it might be something like this, but it just sounded weird. What do they do, specifically? Do other countries mind that the U.S. does a certain amount of meddling of its own?
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Russia is pretty pissed about organizations like this, since they often educate regime critics.
But most countries have them, usually in the form of cultural exposition and language training: the British Council, the Goethe Institut, the Confucius Institut, etc. etc.
They often are a vital diplomatic link when official connections aren't in either party's best interst.
 
This time last year Cohen said he'd take a bullet for Trump.

My biggest question is why he - or anybody else - would expect different from Trump. Have they not met him?
 
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