Mueller Investigation pt 6

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When Senator @MarkWarnerVA spoke at length, and in great detail, about extremely negative information on me, with a talented entertainer purporting to be a Russian Operative, did he immediately call the FBI? NO, in fact he didn’t even tell the Senate Intelligence Committee of....

....which he is a member. When @RepAdamSchiff took calls from another person, also very successfully purporting to be a Russian Operative, did he call the FBI, or even think to call the FBI? NO! The fact is that the phony Witch Hunt is a giant scam where Democrats,...

....and other really bad people, SPIED ON MY CAMPAIGN! They even had an “insurance policy” just in case Crooked Hillary Clinton and the Democrats lost their race for the Presidency! This is the biggest & worst political scandal in the history of the United States of America. Sad!
 
He truly cannot help himself. He can't keep his mouth shut. On accepting a foreign offer of dirt on the other candidates in the 2020 election:

Politico: ‘I think I’d take it’: Trump says he might not report foreign help to FBI in 2020

He even said Wray was wrong that it should be reported.
“It’s not an interference, they have information — I think I’d take it,” Trump said. “If I thought there was something wrong, I’d go maybe to the FBI — if I thought there was something wrong.”

“It’s called oppo research,” he added.

Stephanopoulos pointed out that FBI Director Christopher Wray told Congress that a candidate should offer that kind of information to the agency, but Trump flatly rebuffed the notion: “The FBI director is wrong.”
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This is by itself an argument the Democrats should go ahead with impeachment proceedings. Trump believes there was nothing wrong with the Trump Tower meeting because Mueller couldn't prove a quid pro quo I guess. Because it's obvious Trump knew the information they were offering was obtained by hacking the DNC and Podesta's emails. Trump said it publicly at his rallies.
 
Boomerang News: DOJ Bloodhounds on the Scent of John Brennan

Ray McGovern said:
[...] With Justice Department investigators’ noses to the ground, it should be just a matter of time before they identify Brennan conclusively as fabricator-in-chief of the Russiagate story. Evidence, real evidence in this case, abounds, since the Brennan-Comey-Clapper gang of three were sure Hillary Clinton would become president. Consequently, they did not perform due diligence to hide their tracks.

Worse still, intelligence analysts tend to hang onto instructions and terms of reference handed down to them by people like Brennan and his top lieutenants. It will not be difficult for CIA analysts to come up with documents to support the excuse: “Brennan made me do it.”

The Times article today betrays some sympathy and worry over what may be in store for Brennan, one of its favorite sons and (anonymous) sources, as well as for those he suborned into making up stuff about the Russians.

The DOJ inquiry, says the Times, “has provoked anxiety in the ranks of the C.I.A., according to former officials. Senior agency officials have questioned why the C.I.A.’s analytical work should be subjected to a federal prosecutor’s scrutiny.” [...]

Happily, at least for those interested in the truth, some of the authors of the rump, misnomered “Intelligence Community Assessment” commissioned by Obama, orchestrated by Brennan-Clapper-Comey, and published on January 6, 2017 will now be interviewed. The ICA is the document still widely cited as showing that the “entire intelligence community agreed” on the Russia-gate story, but this is far from the case. As Clapper has admitted, that “assessment” was drafted by “handpicked analysts” from just three of the 17 intelligence agencies — CIA, FBI, and NSA.

U.S. Attorney Durham would do well to also check with analysts in agencies — like the Defense Intelligence Agency and State Department Intelligence, as to why they believe they were excluded. The ICA on Russian interference is as inferior an example of intelligence analysis as I have ever seen. Since virtually all of the hoi aristoi and the media swear by it, I did an assessment of the Assessment on its second anniversary. I wrote: [...]
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That's absurd, CE.

And speaking of absurd, here's another GOP dodge of addressing Trump's outrageous statement he'd take information on his opponents from foreign governments: Steve Scalise, "It was just a hypothetical question." :rolleyes:
 
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Trump believes there was nothing wrong with the Trump Tower meeting because Mueller couldn't prove a quid pro quo I guess. Because it's obvious Trump knew the information they were offering was obtained by hacking the DNC and Podesta's emails.
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Actually the expected dirt was supposed to be coming from official Russian government sources, and my inner George Smiley is satisfied that it concerned Browder and a $400 million contribution to the Clinton campaign and/or family vault. Remember that stuff? Childlike Empress does, if you need reminding.
 
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@Skeptic Ginger
Actually the expected dirt was supposed to be coming from official Russian government sources, and my inner George Smiley is satisfied that it concerned Browder and a $400 million contribution to the Clinton campaign and/or family vault. Remember that stuff? Childlike Empress does, if you need reminding.
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Do you mean the idea offered up by Putin? This one?
 
tanabear said:
If there was a disinformation campaign by Russia why is it nonsensical to ask what the false information was and how many Americans believed it? I can do this with other disinformation campaigns by western media/intelligence.
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You can do what about what disinformation campaigns? How do you even recognise the existence of a disinformation campaign? They are deliberately hidden from low-input people exactly like you. You have no special insight.



We can even do it for Trump-Russia collusion. But for some reason these other disinformation campaigns are like phantoms, often talked about but rarely seen.
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They are not phantoms, they are figments of conspiracist imagination.


No, the basis for the FBI Crossfire Hurricane counter-intelligence investigation(starting July 31, 2016) was George Papadopoulos's meeting with Joseph Mifsud on April 26, 2016. The Steele Dossier was the basis for the FISA warrant on Carter Page. This was not granted till October 21, 2016. The Steele Dossier doesn't mention Joseph Mifsud at all.
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This flies in the face of what Trump has told us, based on all the inputs he has and his unfailingly stable genius, that everything is based on the Steele Dossier. You hve no basis for your claim that Georgie the Greek's drunken posturing is responsible for anything, let alone everything.


I mean what an amazing coincidence. The Steele Dossier was attempting to show a Trump-Russia collusion conspiracy dating back 5 years. George Papadopoulos, whose expertise is in the Levant and has never been to Russia or met a Russian, announces on March 2016 that he will be working for the Trump campaign. Once he does his associates at the LCILP are very eager for him to meet this Maltese professor in Rome, Joseph Mifsud. Even though Mifsud has worked with western governments for years, he just happens to be a secret "Russian agent." However, all of Mifsud's other relations are never scrutinized or called into question. No, it us just PapaD and his interactions with Mifsud, a few meetings and some e-mail exchanges, that almost politically paralyze our nation for two years.
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You've gone way too far off-reservation to be dealt with this late.


Here's how it has to be for your low-IQ President : the Steele Dossier is responsible for everything and Clinton paid for it! This he can grasp and take comfort in. He's not calling for this Mifsud stuff, and you're doing him no service by bringing it up.
 
CapelDodger said:
@Skeptic Ginger
Actually the expected dirt was supposed to be coming from official Russian government sources, and my inner George Smiley is satisfied that it concerned Browder and a $400 million contribution to the Clinton campaign and/or family vault. Remember that stuff? Childlike Empress does, if you need reminding.
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Have you seen Nekrasov's documentary "Magnitsky Act - Behind the Scenes" yet? I just have to continue to recommend it to everyone (because Putin pays me to do it it is eye-opening in so many ways). You in particular could have a smug smile dying over it.

Still free to see here: http://magnitskyact.com/
 
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Delphic Oracle said:
"The investigation" I'm referring to is into foreign interference rather than into specific individuals working for the Trump campaign facilitating said interference.

I know some folks want it to start with Trump personnel so the "witch hunt" narrative sticks, but the world existed before Trump and so did these counterintelligence operations.
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I was referring to the Trump specific investigation. Some folks want to think it was all about the dossier. Papadopoulos spilled the beans more than once. Like Trump he can't keep his mouth shut and has to boast.
 
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Delphic Oracle said:
"The investigation" I'm referring to is into foreign interference rather than into specific individuals working for the Trump campaign facilitating said interference.

I know some folks want it to start with Trump personnel so the "witch hunt" narrative sticks, but the world existed before Trump and so did these counterintelligence operations.
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Five Eyes has been in operation since the late 1990s after ECHELON was revealed

a_unique_person said:
I was referring to the Trump specific investigation. Some folks want to think it was all about the dossier. Papadopoulos spilled the beans more than once. Like Trump he can't keep his mouth shut and has to boast.
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and his blabbing to Downer was a key trigger!

It just bears repeating, that our whinging & bleating Trump sycophants are just plain ignoring the established and indisputable facts.

Fact 1: The FBI received information from one of the Five Eyes co-operating allied foreign intelligence services who were spying on the Russians. During their own routine "SIGINT" surveillance of The Kremlin and Russian oligarchs, they noticed multiple members of the Trump campaign and other Trump associates kept repeatedly popping up in their investigations.
Fact 2: As a result, those intelligence partners informed the FBI about what they had observed. They were so concerned about what they had been told, that only THEN did the start the counter-intelligence investigation - it was their duty to do so.
Fact 3: The Steele Dossier had nothing whatsoever to to with the appointment of the Special Counsel. Far from being some fabricated, fake document, the Steele Dossier has turned out to be devastatingly accurate in almost every aspect. Many things in the dossier have been confirmed as absolutely correct, a number of things have been unable to be confirmed, but there is nothing in that document that has been shown to be wrong.
Fact 4: It was the firing of James Comey as head of the FBI, and Trump's own stated reasons for doing so, firstly because Comey would not protect Mike Flynn, and secondly, because Comey would not put a stop to "Crossfire Hurricane", the Russia probe, that led to Rod Rosenstein appointing Special Counsel Robert Mueller.
 
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From the linked-to article CE provided;

One cannot escape the analogy with the fraudulent evidence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. As in 2002 and 2003, when the mania for the invasion of Iraq mounted, Establishment media have simply regurgitated what intelligence sources like Brennan told them about Russia-gate.

No one batted an eye when Brennan told a House committee in May 2017, “I don’t do evidence.”
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IsThisTheLife said:
From the linked-to article CE provided;
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smartcooky said:
Five Eyes has been in operation since the late 1990s after ECHELON was revealed

and his blabbing to Downer was a key trigger!

It just bears repeating, that our whinging & bleating Trump sycophants are just plain ignoring the established and indisputable facts.

Fact 1: The FBI received information from one of the Five Eyes co-operating allied foreign intelligence services who were spying on the Russians. During their own routine "SIGINT" surveillance of The Kremlin and Russian oligarchs, they noticed multiple members of the Trump campaign and other Trump associates kept repeatedly popping up in their investigations.
Fact 2: As a result, those intelligence partners informed the FBI about what they had observed. They were so concerned about what they had been told, that only THEN did the start the counter-intelligence investigation - it was their duty to do so.
Fact 3: The Steele Dossier had nothing whatsoever to to with the appointment of the Special Counsel. Far from being some fabricated, fake document, the Steele Dossier has turned out to be devastatingly accurate in almost every aspect. Many things in the dossier have been confirmed as absolutely correct, a number of things have been unable to be confirmed, but there is nothing in that document that has been shown to be wrong.
Fact 4: It was the firing of James Comey as head of the FBI, and Trump's own stated reasons for doing so, firstly because Comey would not protect Mike Flynn, and secondly, because Comey would not put a stop to "Crossfire Hurricane", the Russia probe, that led to Rod Rosenstein appointing Special Counsel Robert Mueller.
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Nunes is off on a new committee investigation into the Democrats spying on Trump. :rolleyes:

When are those stupid Democrats going to recognize they need to counter this lie, not ignore it! :mad:
 
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