Mossad agent arrested in Hamas assassination case

[DC]

Rinse. Repeat meant that you used the same tactics in the those threads.

And sorry, judging by your half-baked correlations/comparisons/etc. that are obviously not fully thought through, I would suggest you look at yourself before accusing someone else of being a 'black and white thinker.

that was not an accusation, it was an ascertainment.

 

[bigjelmapro]

This is a lie. I propose you do it in your own backyard. I have posted this any times.

Yes, using ambiguous terms like backyard is that lack of concrete proposals that I was referring to. I regard the ME as a backyard, sorry. This is the downside of using such ambiguous terms.

Sorry, that is not English. Try again.

Not really that difficult to understand. Perhaps a box a crayons are on the order.

It is not our fault if your side is incompetent.

So you saying that he's still alive? Nope.

Not all options were exhausted, that sounds like another tall tale from you.

Attempted arrests and attempted targetted killing in our own 'backyard'. Any other options? Perhaps Israel should have gone to the UN so they could draft a strongly worded statement against Hamas to stop terrorism.

Nothing to see here eh? No international fracas?

So, what havoc? Token eviction of a few low-level ministers? Horrible...

You are so tough.

Yeah, just like that horrible pensioner British agents killed.

 

[bigjelmapro]

that was not an accusation, it was an ascertainment.

Accusation and failed comparison. Don't see you picking up on the threads you abandoned.

 

[DC]

Accusation and failed comparison. Don't see you picking up on the threads you abandoned.

what threads have i abandoned. in one thread you have presented what makes you believe Iran is doing, and it didn't convince me. (like the things presented here didn't convince you what the mossad did or didn't)

in the flotilla thread we were largely in agreement anyway. why do you feel i have abandoned it?

 

[funk de fino]

Yes, using ambiguous terms like backyard is that lack of concrete proposals that I was referring to. I regard the ME as a backyard, sorry. This is the downside of using such ambiguous terms.

If you struggle with basic English then just say so.

Not really that difficult to understand. Perhaps a box a crayons are on the order.

See above. It is not English. Try it again.

So you saying that he's still alive? Nope.

More lies

Attempted arrests and attempted targetted killing in our own 'backyard'. Any other options? Perhaps Israel should have gone to the UN so they could draft a strongly worded statement against Hamas to stop terrorism.

Try harder. Thought you were good. No evidence of previous attempts then?

So, what havoc? Token eviction of a few low-level ministers? Horrible...

Specially picked guys according the sources.

Yeah, just like that horrible pensioner British agents killed.

More irrelevance eh? Rolled over and given up.

 

[bigjelmapro]

If you struggle with basic English then just say so.

So now backyard isn't an ambiguous term? And you whinge about ad homs too.

See above. It is not English. Try it again.

Might not be perfect, but I would assume that you have an IQ above a handful a grapes. Its a rehash of previous statements as well.

More lies

So where's this failure? It was in question format. This terrorist is dead, so I don't see this failure you're referring to. So the 'more lies' bit is directed at you.

And since we're on failures, how many times have the British been in Afghanistan? Could be tied in with the 'havoc' and the overall mess the Brits made in practically every corner of the world.

Try harder. Thought you were good. No evidence of previous attempts then?

Start with the 'wiki. ho ho' source which links to various sources which was conveniently glossed over.

Specially picked guys according the sources.

So again, what havoc?

More irrelevance eh? Rolled over and given up.

Circular argument once again. You harp on about 'innocents', I bring in the case of the dangerous pensioner British agents killed.

At what point are you going to realize that these taunts of yours amount to absolutely nothing?

 

[Thunder]

http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=200958

Looks like Israel is closer than ever to admiting they assassinated the Hamas dude.

Did any honest people have any doubt?

 

[funk de fino]

So now backyard isn't an ambiguous term? And you whinge about ad homs too.

Only for dullards

And since we're on failures, how many times have the British been in Afghanistan? Could be tied in with the 'havoc' and the overall mess the Brits made in practically every corner of the world.

Irrelevant

Start with the 'wiki. ho ho' source which links to various sources which was conveniently glossed over.

Nothing then.

Circular argument once again. You harp on about 'innocents', I bring in the case of the dangerous pensioner British agents killed.

Another uninformed lie.

At what point are you going to realize that these taunts of yours amount to absolutely nothing?

At what point is it obvious to people that your lot did it. Cowardly asshats.

 

[a_unique_person]

http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=200958

Looks like Israel is closer than ever to admiting they assassinated the Hamas dude.

Did any honest people have any doubt?

I'd guess there is something in cable that will come out sometime.

 

[INRM]

Thunder,

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diploma...nt-arrested-over-dubai-assassination-1.295716

I wonder how Israel will spin this one.

"Goys have no right telling Jews how to defend themselves!!! If we want to assassinate people in foreign countries using faked foreign passports, that is our business!!!"

Either that or they'll claim that the world is better off without the person that they killed running around and sucking air.


INRM
"In closing, I'm gonna remind you all, that no matter how I die, it was murder."
SNL Parody of Julian Assange
December 4, 2010

 

[Doctor Evil]

I did not bother to respond to Thunder's previous post because I deemed it pointless. So a British journalist, Gordon Thomas, publish a story claiming that the incoming Mossad chief will apologize for the British government. Of course Thunder takes this story to be true. After all, it suits his world view.

On the other hand, this is a Skeptic website. Which means we should all aspire to have better tools to judge such stories. So I asked myself the following question: how can Thomas know whether the incoming Mossad head intend to apologize or not? The newspaper article does not supply a hint. My conclusion was that said journalist probably have no actual knowledge. In fact, I could not see a way in which he could have had knowledge, even if the story eventually turners out to be true. He simply invented a story. I thus ignored it altogether.

As it happens, an Israeli journalist whose specialty is intelligence have reached the same conclusion. (Which is why I bothered to write the post.) He also lets us know that Thomas have 'past form':

A good example of such rumor spreading is the veteran journalist Gordon Thomas, who wrote a bestseller about the Mossad. His book was classified as non-fiction but it should have been on the fiction shelf, since his stories and articles are full of fabrications, half-truths and baseless claims that even the most ardent conspiracy theorists would have trouble accepting.

For instance, he claimed that Monica Lewinsky was planted by the Mossad to entice U.S. President Bill Clinton, and stain his reputation. A few days ago, Gordon Thomas was sure that the new Mossad chief, Pardo, who has yet to take up his position officially, would soon apologize to the British for the Mossad's alleged use of British passports.

In order to gauge Thomas' reliability, suffice it to note that he stated in this report that Pardo served for the past three years as deputy Mossad chief. In fact, Pardo left the Mossad two years ago.

Summary: an invented story gets published and believed. (And being copied by many newspapers without really checking it.) This is the state of journalism in the 21st century.

 

[Thunder]

Of course Thunder takes this story to be true. After all, it suits his world view.

I also trust the Jerusalem Post to do their homework. I guess you DON'T, as it would not fit your world view.

Summary: an invented story gets published and believed. (And being copied by many newspapers without really checking it.)

evidence? proof? or do you simply doubt the legitimacy of the story and the JPost's attempt to verify it, due to the story not fitting your world view.

 

[marksman]

I also trust the Jerusalem Post to do their homework.

They did their homework. They reported the source of their story: the Telegraph. It then went on to say that "Israel has not officially acknowledged that it was behind the assassination of Mabhouh", which indicates the story has no official indicia of truth.

you simply doubt the legitimacy of the story and the JPost's attempt to verify it, due to the story not fitting your world view.

I believe the Jerusalem Post accurately repeated the allegations made in the Telegraph. I believe the Jerusalem Post accurately repeated the Israeli refusal to acknowledge they were involved in the assassination.

I don't believe this story can be taken as evidence that Israel is planning to apologize or that it is not planning to apologize. The Post merely repeated a rumor and clearly indicated it as such.

The problem is not that the JPost was inaccurate, but that you didn't understand what the article stated.

 

[Thunder]

It then went on to say that "Israel has not officially acknowledged that it was behind the assassination of Mabhouh",

Israel also has not officially acknowledged their possession of lots of nuclear weapons. But we all know they have them.

Are you suggesting it is anti-Semitic unfair to suggest Israel snuffed the guy, until Israel officially accept responsibility?

Wow. Funny stuff. Looks like I'm not the only one with a higher-standard for Israel.

I expect more from them, you trust them beyond what they deserve.

 

[WildCat]

Wow. Funny stuff. Looks like I'm not the only one with a higher-standard for Israel.

I expect more from them, you trust them beyond what they deserve.

I also expect more from them. I hope many more Hamas and Hizbullah leaders get snuffed out by Mossad agents in their presumed sanctuaries.

 

[Thunder]

I also expect more from them. I hope many more Hamas and Hizbullah leaders get snuffed out by Mossad agents in their presumed sanctuaries.

How about trying to arrest them first?

Oh, and thanks for finally acknowledging that Israel killed the guy. Good to know you're on the side of facts.

 

[funk de fino]

I also expect more from them. I hope many more Hamas and Hizbullah leaders get snuffed out by Mossad agents in their presumed sanctuaries.

Using your passport?

 

[marksman]

Are you suggesting it is anti-Semitic unfair to suggest Israel snuffed the guy, until Israel officially accept responsibility?

No. I am suggesting that you were wrong to think the Jerusalem Post article reported that the head of the Mossad is going to apologize to Great Britain. It only repreated a rumor made in the Standard, and it clearly stated the source of this rumor.

Looks like I'm not the only one with a higher-standard for Israel.

What are you talking about? I was referencing your utter lack of reading comprehension. I never said anything about any standard to which Israel should be held.

 

[Thunder]

What are you talking about? I was referencing your utter lack of reading comprehension. I never said anything about any standard to which Israel should be held.

I wasn't talking to you, my Westchester-residing friend.

 

[Thunder]

I also expect more from them. I hope many more Hamas and Hizbullah leaders get snuffed out by Mossad agents in their presumed sanctuaries.

And I hope all surviving members of the Stern Gang, Irgun, and all other Zionist terrorist groups from pre-1949 Palestine are shot in the head.