Mossad agent arrested in Hamas assassination case

[Thunder]

I wonder how Israelis and Uber-Zionists would respond if MI6 sent a crack team of commandos to go into Israel, using fake passports, to take out a member of the Irgun who helped blow up the King David Hotel and killed scores of innocents.

 

[funk de fino]

All I hear is whinging about someone responding to your post on a public forum. The part you kept bolding though was a line of responses addressed to me. I don't even know why you keep bringing this up. But its confirmed stubbornness.

'It looked like you...' was clarified, followed by more whinging on your part, followed by another clarification, followed by more whinging. Don't think I missed much.

So, you do not know what clarification means. And you are too stubborn to admit your initial reply to me was nonsense and irrelevant. Subsequent posts only confused the issue more.

Whinge+1. Don't want a response, take it to PMing. Capiche?

If I do not ask a question I do not want an answer. Basic English 101. I do not mind a relpy if it makes sense and is related in any way, shape or form to my post. This one wasn't. You seemed to have an inability to explain that.

Why? That Dubai is a favorite destination spot for terrorist organizations? Somehow you managed to pull a 'bias' out of there. Doesn't matter if I've been there, much less that you've ever been to Gaza in reference to you thinking its part of Israel, surrounded by a wall, and that somehow its easy to hit 1 person with a gunship.

I never said it's part of Israel. Is it a separate country? I guess the Israeli never use gunships to kill Hamas leaders in Gaza eh? Oops...we know that is not true. Have you been to Dubai? What is your problem with Dubai? What is your experience that lets you know what Dubai is like? Is it like your Gulf War experience? Based on tall tales.

Probably would question why the UK would allow in a known Hamas terrorist in the first place, but wouldn't really surprise me these days anyways. If he went there, sure.

You approve of killing anyone Israel decides is bad, in other countries. Nice one. You have just shown us all your problem. Arrogance and ego. You think you can do anything and ignore the conesequences and play dumb and pretend it wasnt us. Your leaders are acting like the scum they are killing if they approve and sanction these type of hits. Then you have the nerve to deny it and act like dummies.

There's no wall around Gaza, its a chainlink fence. Gaza isn't part of Israel. Gaza is difficult to operate in seeing as Shalit hasn't been found (if he's still in Gaza) and other terrorist heads are difficult to kill there as well.

I never said it was part of Israel. Tall tales again sunshine. Are there no concrete and steel walls on the Egypt border? Who built them?

Are you scared of them?

Why do you keep addressing this to me though? In regards to logistics, significantly less collateral damage, and actually confirming the kill of the intended target (in opposition to drone strikes in Afghanistan/Pakistan by the US), killing this terrorist in Dubai is a no-brainer.

Not if it breaks international law it is not. Interpol want those killers. Do you think your leaders will hand them over once the crime is proven?

You are right on one thing. No brainer is a very apt description but not for this.

We do not like? This isn't a popularity contest of forcefully changing government figures, which the UK and the US has a history of doing. Its a hit on a known terrorist. If Dubai has an issue in having this known terrorist being killed on theri soil, then don't allow in said terrorist

Now Israel want to restrict all international movement of all people they do not like. If you move you are fair game. It is very obvious that this is not a popularity contest as your lot are isolating themselves from the rest of the civilised world by acting like clowns.

Israel is engaged in armed conflict with Hamas. But really, I don't even think you know what the concept of covert operations are. Pretending as if the UK has never done it to boot.

Yes, I do. I know when you make stuff up about it also. Boots in iraq? Remember? Your lot broke the law. Deal with it.

Then again, following this stellar line of reasoning, I guess you would prefer Israel to declare war on Dubai and simply level the entire hotel. Just as long as no UK passports are used, right?

And again you have to make up non arguments. Keep on going.

Still not blue in the face eh?

I would be if I ever waited on evidence from you of anything. Which is ironic given your ridiculous stance on this issue.

What innocent are you referring to? This argument is hanging on a single innocent killed? Swiss cheese again.

A covert operation in another country that killed an innocent man. One life is worth it eh?

You know what this was a response to. The preference in using a gunship in a densely populated area rather than using another nation's passport to kill a terrorist directly.

That is for you and the Palestinians to sort out. Do not drag the rest of us into your sorry mess. Do not break the laws in our countries.

 

[ZirconBlue]

Really? Because we're not just talking about the incidents we all new about on Gibraltar and so on, but revelations about the RUC and Loyalist connections which are just coming up now?

Don't get me wrong, I'm quite happy with us fighting the Provos on a "fire with fire" basis. But an awful lot of people in the US got very, very upset about it. And I just want us to establish a set of of common ground rules here.

I think this might be an age thing, as dtugg suggested. I was born in late 1971, and, while I recall general reporting of IRA violence on the nightly news, it wasn't a topic of general discussion as far as I was aware. I certainly didn't know anyone who was "very, very upset" about any of the UK's actions. It was probably seen as a much bigger deal amongst parts of the Irish-American community, however.

I was pretty ignorant of a lot of what happened during that period, only knowing that there was some violent conflict "between Catholics and Protestants" in Ireland. I suspect that that was not unusual amongst Americans of my age group.

 

[bigjelmapro]

So, you do not know what clarification means. And you are too stubborn to admit your initial reply to me was nonsense and irrelevant. Subsequent posts only confused the issue more.

No confusion, since there's been no change in position on my part. You simply don't like the concept of a clarification and will continue harping on about this. Not responding anymore to bit anymore.

If I do not ask a question I do not want an answer. Basic English 101. I do not mind a relpy if it makes sense and is related in any way, shape or form to my post. This one wasn't. You seemed to have an inability to explain that.

Perfectly aware of this as well. The only thing you're still not understanding is the concept of compliance and where its stated that I needed to comply to your ground rules. So again, deal with it, or simply take it PM or go on about it on a blog.

I never said it's part of Israel. Is it a separate country? I guess the Israeli never use gunships to kill Hamas leaders in Gaza eh? Oops...we know that is not true. Have you been to Dubai? What is your problem with Dubai? What is your experience that lets you know what Dubai is like? Is it like your Gulf War experience? Based on tall tales.

Why stick to only 1 method? Besides, there were previous attempts on this guy, he got smart, so you have to deal with the situation otherwise.

Not getting baited into this Muslim country skit. Not the first time Hamas and other terrorist organizations have been in Dubai and use this place to launder money. Not going to be the last.

Never been in the Gulf war, never stated this. Quite the character you are.

You approve of killing anyone Israel decides is bad, in other countries. Nice one. You have just shown us all your problem. Arrogance and ego. You think you can do anything and ignore the conesequences and play dumb and pretend it wasnt us. Your leaders are acting like the scum they are killing if they approve and sanction these type of hits. Then you have the nerve to deny it and act like dummies.

No. I approve the killing of known terrorists that have killed Israelis. As for the rest of your post, more golden whinging. I love how you keep refering to you this, you that.

I never said it was part of Israel. Tall tales again sunshine. Are there no concrete and steel walls on the Egypt border? Who built them?

Short term memory then:

Do it in your own back garden.

Dubai is.

No, it's not. Gaza is. Scared to go there? Is that why you built a big wall?

Thanks for clarifying that steel walls is on the Egyptian side, not the Israeli one.

Not if it breaks international law it is not. Interpol want those killers. Do you think your leaders will hand them over once the crime is proven?

Ah, the international law skit. Hasn't stopped him from evading arrest for murders of Israelis. Tried a few times locally. If all else fails, get him in an Arab country where he feels safe.

You are right on one thing. No brainer is a very apt description but not for this.

Its worked where its previously failed. But I'm sure you can come and weep at his grave.

Yes, I do. I know when you make stuff up about it also. Boots in iraq? Remember? Your lot broke the law. Deal with it.

So Israel is not in a state of armed conflict with Hamas. Good to know how you keep sticking to this.

A covert operation in another country that killed an innocent man. One life is worth it eh?

Care to be a bit more specific? You talking about that waiter who was killed because of mistaken identity? But I'm sure no innocents have been killed on any covert operations the British have done. Oh no, they just shoot unarmed Irish protesters. Forgot about that.

That is for you and the Palestinians to sort out. Do not drag the rest of us into your sorry mess. Do not break the laws in our countries.

Do not invite terrorists that have killed Israelis into your country then and then we'll be fine.

 

[funk de fino]

No confusion, since there's been no change in position on my part. You simply don't like the concept of a clarification and will continue harping on about this. Not responding anymore to bit anymore.

Your terrible debating technique is not my problem. Address the post, not what you want peoples posts to say. Then people might undertsand your posts.

Perfectly aware of this as well. The only thing you're still not understanding is the concept of compliance and where its stated that I needed to comply to your ground rules. So again, deal with it, or simply take it PM or go on about it on a blog.

Waahmbulance time.

Why stick to only 1 method? Besides, there were previous attempts on this guy, he got smart, so you have to deal with the situation otherwise.

Yes, very smart. Dead smart. Stick to a way that is not illegal in other peoples countries.

Not getting baited into this Muslim country skit. Not the first time Hamas and other terrorist organizations have been in Dubai and use this place to launder money. Not going to be the last.

That does not give you the right to carry out illegal actions in those countries or any country.

Never been in the Gulf war, never stated this. Quite the character you are.

Correct but you like to make up stories about brave Israelis during the Gulf War eh?

No. I approve the killing of known terrorists that have killed Israelis. As for the rest of your post, more golden whinging. I love how you keep refering to you this, you that.

You approve of illegality in other countries. The chickens usually come home to roost someday.

Short term memory then:

Thanks for clarifying that steel walls is on the Egyptian side, not the Israeli one.

I never said Gaza was part of Israel. Stop lying. I said it was in your backyard. Copmared to Dubai it is. Now who's logic has failed.

Who built the wall at the Egypt side? Was it Egypt?

Ah, the international law skit. Hasn't stopped him from evading arrest for murders of Israelis. Tried a few times locally. If all else fails, get him in an Arab country where he feels safe.

Yes, international law. Has this man been tried in court?

Its worked where its previously failed. But I'm sure you can come and weep at his grave.

Why would I do that?

So Israel is not in a state of armed conflict with Hamas. Good to know how you keep sticking to this.

Again, a post that has nothing to do with my post. Do you practice that? It's quite impressive.

Care to be a bit more specific? You talking about that waiter who was killed because of mistaken identity? But I'm sure no innocents have been killed on any covert operations the British have done. Oh no, they just shoot unarmed Irish protesters. Forgot about that.

Yes, the innocent life taken in another country. An illegal act.

Those soldiers were on duty. Not covert. Fail again. They acted inappropriately and have rightly been blamed for it. We are big enough to know we do something wrong.

Do not invite terrorists that have killed Israelis into your country then and then we'll be fine.

Who invited who?

 

[bigjelmapro]

Correct but you like to make up stories about brave Israelis during the Gulf War eh?

Keep pushing this. For the nth time, I've stated that this is speculatory.

You approve of illegality in other countries. The chickens usually come home to roost someday.

Yep, that's why this terrorist's dead.

I never said Gaza was part of Israel. Stop lying. I said it was in your backyard. Copmared to Dubai it is. Now who's logic has failed.

I said Dubai was in Israel's backyard. You disagreed. You said Gaza was Israel's backyard. I agreed. So what.

Who built the wall at the Egypt side? Was it Egypt?

Is it on Israel's side or Egypt's? Egypt is building a barrier to prevent smuggling tunnels.

Yes, international law. Has this man been tried in court?

Tried several times to arrest him. Couple times to kill him the territories. Those options were exhausted and it can be argued that this targetted killing of a known terrorist (not a suspected one) belonging to an organization that has been fighting an unlawful war against Israel can be targetted.

Again, a post that has nothing to do with my post. Do you practice that? It's quite impressive.

If does if you keep harping on about international law and how such operations are illegal.

Those soldiers were on duty. Not covert. Fail again. They acted inappropriately and have rightly been blamed for it. We are big enough to know we do something wrong.

You sure the British never had any agents there committing extra-judicial killings? No shoot-to-kill orders were given? But I guess you're stuck on the covert bit. If you're in uniform, in another country, then its ok. But then again, were these British agents all in uniform? Doubtful. Oh, but their paperwork might have been in order.

 

[Thunder]

Yep, that's why this terrorist's dead.

yes...he is dead.

assassinated by Israel, using fraudulent passports, without the permission or even informing of the country where it occured.

I wonder how Israel would feel if MI6 sent it some folks to to Israel, with fake passports, take out Irgun members for their involvment in the terrorist attack on the King David Hotel.

 

[Matthew Ellard]

Where you getting this from?

For the passports being copied as dual passport holders going through Tel Aviv, I can quote the UK Telegraph.

Israeli immigration officials at Tel Aviv airport secretly copied the British passports which were then used by the hit squad which assassinated a leading Hamas official, ministers have been told.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ssports-used-by-hit-squad-ministers-told.html

However, I must be honest and state that I cannot find any public information on the internet, concerning Israel immigration officers contacting the dual passport holders at the time of the assassination based on either ASIS or Mi6/SOCA interviews. I did read it, I can't remember where and I ask you to give me some more time to find a public link. Until I find this I must withdraw my comment per forum rules.

Why would you inform a real passport holder that their passport/name is going to be used in a clandestine operation?

They were not informing them of an operation but rather asking them if they were leaving the country to prevent two citizens of the same name popping up on computers at different destinations at the same time.

Dubai isn't so much a holiday destination for many Israelis. Mostly for business. But even so, as has been stated, these Israelis didn't travel to Dubai ever, so why would one start to coincidentally during the day of the operation?

The hit was meant to appear as a natural death and no one was meant to suspect otherwise. If something went wrong (as it did) the authorities would first check who was staying at the Hotel. If the fake "Adam Korman" was both in Dubai and the real "Adam Korman" was,say America at the same time the investigation would focus on him and the passport deceit identified. This is why the "real" passport holders had to not be travelling.

 

[ZirconBlue]

assassinated by Israel, using fraudulent passports, without the permission or even informing of the country where it occured.

I'm not sure how I feel about a nation using assasination in this manner, but if I were OK with the assassination itself, I don't see how the rest is of your list is even an issue.

Of course they're going to use "fraudulent passports". False identies are part and parcel of espionage and intelligence activities. I do have issue with them using the identities of real people, since that could implicate those people in activities they had no hand in. But, to expect them to travel under their real identity is silly. This isn't a James Bond movie, where spies go around telling everyone who they are.

And, unless Dubai explicitly endorced the assassination of this guy, it wouldn't make any sense at all to ask permission or otherwise inform them in advance. That would just make the mission harder (or impossible).

 

[Thunder]

Of course they're going to use "fraudulent passports". False identies are part and parcel of espionage and intelligence activities. .

as is prosecuting them for murder and/or espionage...when they get caught.

they know the game. they are willing players. they are responsible for their decisions and actions.

I wonder how Israel would feel if MI6 sent it some folks to to Israel, with fake passports, take out Irgun members for their involvment in the terrorist attack on the King David Hotel.

 

[bigjelmapro]

I'm not sure how I feel about a nation using assasination in this manner, but if I were OK with the assassination itself, I don't see how the rest is of your list is even an issue.

Obama has signed on for the continuation of drone kills in Pakistan and Afghanistan for killing alleged terrorist heads, continuing where Bush left off. The US has argued that since other options have been exhausted and that groups like Al Qaida conduct an unlawful war against the US, that what the UN refers to 'targetted killings', while others use the terms which are deemed illegal acts, such as 'assassination', extra-judicial/summary execution', etc.

Interesting UN report (pdf) regarding the matter: Report of the Special Rapporteur on extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary executions, Philip Alston

I would support such strikes if there's definitive evidence that the target is an actual threat to the country launching the attack, that the laws of proportionality are pursued, and that there's an internal investigation into the matter to make sure that everything adds up.

 

[DC]

Obama has signed on for the continuation of drone kills in Pakistan and Afghanistan for killing alleged terrorist heads, continuing where Bush left off. The US has argued that since other options have been exhausted and that groups like Al Qaida conduct an unlawful war against the US, that what the UN refers to 'targetted killings', while others use the terms which are deemed illegal acts, such as 'assassination', extra-judicial/summary execution', etc.

Interesting UN report (pdf) regarding the matter: Report of the Special Rapporteur on extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary executions, Philip Alston

I would support such strikes if there's definitive evidence that the target is an actual threat to the country launching the attack, that the laws of proportionality are pursued, and that there's an internal investigation into the matter to make sure that everything adds up.

Difference is, the USA does not deny any involvement in those executions.
and they don't endanger civilians of allied countries by using their cloned ID's.

 

[bigjelmapro]

Difference is, the USA does not deny any involvement in those executions.

Only admittance occurs when there's media coverage about it, otherwise there isn't any admittance of involvement. These aren't necessarily considered covert operations but usually non-military operators (or retired) employed by the CIA.

and they don't endanger civilians of allied countries by using their cloned ID's.

Didn't read the pdf did you. Collateral damage ranges from 20-100 per target. Civilians are simply killed, not potentially endangered or disrupted by potentially putting about 500 million on a no-fly list.

 

[funk de fino]

Keep pushing this. For the nth time, I've stated that this is speculatory.

You said you knew for a fact.

Yep, that's why this terrorist's dead.

And they do not just come back for the guys you think are bad. Your assassins are the bad guys too.

I said Dubai was in Israel's backyard. You disagreed. You said Gaza was Israel's backyard. I agreed. So what.

You tried to claim I thought Gaza was in Israel.

Is it on Israel's side or Egypt's? Egypt is building a barrier to prevent smuggling tunnels.

Are you dense. On Egypts side. There are walls. Who built them?

Tried several times to arrest him. Couple times to kill him the territories. Those options were exhausted and it can be argued that this targetted killing of a known terrorist (not a suspected one) belonging to an organization that has been fighting an unlawful war against Israel can be targetted.

Not very good then are you. Have to do it the cowardy and illegal way. thumbing your nose at the world. As I said, the chickens will come home to roost.

If does if you keep harping on about international law and how such operations are illegal.

They are. Ask Interpol

You sure the British never had any agents there committing extra-judicial killings? No shoot-to-kill orders were given? But I guess you're stuck on the covert bit. If you're in uniform, in another country, then its ok. But then again, were these British agents all in uniform? Doubtful. Oh, but their paperwork might have been in order.

In uniform in, in the UK, on active duty, using their own passports. Facing the enemy.

 

[bigjelmapro]

You said you knew for a fact.

Never said that.

And they do not just come back for the guys you think are bad. Your assassins are the bad guys too.

Targetted killing.

You tried to claim I thought Gaza was in Israel.

Define then what you mean by 'backyard' then instead of dancing around the subject.

Are you dense. On Egypts side. There are walls. Who built them?

You're attempting to steer the argument to something else. Go back to original statement, the Egyptian border with Gaza has nothing to do with your statement regarding Israel. Peddle some more.

Not very good then are you. Have to do it the cowardy and illegal way. thumbing your nose at the world. As I said, the chickens will come home to roost.

Targetted killing can be argued differently. As for the cowardly bit, don't care much for it. Its just trolling on your part.

This terrrorist got what he deserved which, as I said, applies to your above latter statement, yet again.

They are. Ask Interpol

I said that Israel is in a state of armed conflict with Hamas, you say its irrelevant even whilst going on about international law and illegality, then you bring up interpol.

Problem was, this Hamas terrorist was wanted by Israel in connection to murders and terrorist attacks against Israel. So sorry, trumps Interpol. If it wasn't stated as wanted for murder, but for using fraudelent passports, I get the argument. Otherwise, Interpol can go shove it.

In uniform in, in the UK, on active duty, using their own passports. Facing the enemy.

So no covert ops, no shoot-to-kill, no British agents ever used in plain clothing. That high horse must be extremely high to make such claims.

 

[bigjelmapro]

Israeli immigration officials at Tel Aviv airport secretly copied the British passports which were then used by the hit squad which assassinated a leading Hamas official, ministers have been told.[/I]
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ssports-used-by-hit-squad-ministers-told.html

Thanks for the source. I'm sorry, but just for good measure I hope that another newspaper will pick this up since the Telegraph I have issues with when they state their sources. It seems reasonable though.

The hit was meant to appear as a natural death and no one was meant to suspect otherwise. If something went wrong (as it did) the authorities would first check who was staying at the Hotel. If the fake "Adam Korman" was both in Dubai and the real "Adam Korman" was,say America at the same time the investigation would focus on him and the passport deceit identified. This is why the "real" passport holders had to not be travelling. [/COLOR]

Didn't hear about anything going wrong, even by Dubai police when they initially suspected a heartattack. Don't know where in the investigation did the police prompt for a toxicology test though.

As for the real passport holders, there's not many ways to get out of Israel and I'm sure there would've been holds on those real travellers if this was the case.

 

[funk de fino]

Never said that.

I am certain you did. I will take it back if you did not.

Targetted killing.

Bad guys, ask Interpol.

Define then what you mean by 'backyard' then instead of dancing around the subject.

Its on your fricking doorstep. I never said Gaza was in Israel. You lied.

You're attempting to steer the argument to something else. Go back to original statement, the Egyptian border with Gaza has nothing to do with your statement regarding Israel. Peddle some more.

Who built the wall surrounding Gaza on the Egypt side?

Targetted killing can be argued differently. As for the cowardly bit, don't care much for it. Its just trolling on your part.

I am not trolling. Crminals are wanted by Interpol, that is a fact you cannot run way from

This terrrorist got what he deserved which, as I said, applies to your above latter statement, yet again.

maybe so, but not the way it was done. The end does not justify the means.

I said that Israel is in a state of armed conflict with Hamas, you say its irrelevant even whilst going on about international law and illegality, then you bring up interpol.

Because they want your Israeli killers. They carried iut an illegal murder in another country.

Problem was, this Hamas terrorist was wanted by Israel in connection to murders and terrorist attacks against Israel. So sorry, trumps Interpol. If it wasn't stated as wanted for murder, but for using fraudelent passports, I get the argument. Otherwise, Interpol can go shove it.

Arrogance and ego again. No wonder the tide is turning agoinst you on the world stage. No wonder your leaders are panicking and stepping back from the brink. How far before you extremists vote them out eh?

So no covert ops, no shoot-to-kill, no British agents ever used in plain clothing. That high horse must be extremely high to make such claims.

Not that day. Not in another country. Not with fake passport belonging to real people from other countries. No.

 

[bigjelmapro]

Its on your fricking doorstep. I never said Gaza was in Israel. You lied.

So we've gone from backyard to doorstep. I guess this is progress.

Who built the wall surrounding Gaza on the Egypt side?

Continue sidestepping.

I am not trolling. Crminals are wanted by Interpol, that is a fact you cannot run way from

Terrorists still at large and partaking in terrorist activity against Israel are wanted by Israel. This still trumps Interpol.

maybe so, but not the way it was done. The end does not justify the means.

Other options were exhausted. Other methods had to be pursued. This is the end result. Wouldn't be much of a concern for Israel if this was a retired terrorist, but this simply wasn't the case.

Because they want your Israeli killers. They carried iut an illegal murder in another country.

Who says they're Israelis? Targetted killing of a known terrorist. Keep harping on about illegality.

Arrogance and ego again. No wonder the tide is turning agoinst you on the world stage. No wonder your leaders are panicking and stepping back from the brink. How far before you extremists vote them out eh?

Again with the 'your'. There's no panicking either. There's transparency.

Ah, now I'm an extremist. I'm going to crack up once you fall off that high horse of yours.

Oh wait....

Not that day. Not in another country. Not with fake passport belonging to real people from other countries. No.

Britian had British agents in Ireland and had shoot-to-kill orders.

The only thing is, MI5/MI6 pay others to do their deeds for them, ie:

David Shayler

Nelson is thought to have set up the killing of Francisco Notarantonio in order to divert the UDA/UFF from targeting Frederico Scappatici. Sam McCrory was given his first assignment and on 9 October 1987, Notarantonio, a 66 year old who had been interned in 1971[12] but had not been active for more than 40 years, was shot dead at his home in Ballymurphy, West Belfast.

Another more descriptive article:
Why MI5 sanctioned the murder of a pensioner

Brian Nelson (1948–2003)

Shayler stated that MI6 had been involved in a failed assassination attack on Libyan leader Muammar al-Gaddafi in February 1996 without the permission of the then foreign secretary Sir Malcolm Rifkind. The plot involved paying the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group with supporters in London and links to Al-Qaeda £100,000 to carry out the attack.

Another article about MI5 involvement in Ireland:
MI5 says it plays by the rules. I hope that's not true

MI5 officers shared a desk with the officers from the FRU responsible for "targeted assassination". There is no question that MI5 knew what the FRU was doing. But did they intervene, in the name of "legality, integrity, objectivity and proportionality" to stop it? They did not. On only one occasion did MI5 take the view that the FRU had gone too far and decide that the man targeted for murder should be spared. In all the other cases (and the number of murders runs into double figures), they were complicit in the killings.

Off your high-horse you tumble.

 

[funk de fino]

So we've gone from backyard to doorstep. I guess this is progress.

You will find I mentioned doorstep originally. Fail

Do not crap in your own doorstep

Continue sidestepping.

yes, you are arent you. Israel built walls on the Egypt side.

Terrorists still at large and partaking in terrorist activity against Israel are wanted by Israel. This still trumps Interpol.

Unfortunately that is incorrect. If the are caught they will pay for their crimes. They are no better than the guy they killed.

Other options were exhausted. Other methods had to be pursued. This is the end result. Wouldn't be much of a concern for Israel if this was a retired terrorist, but this simply wasn't the case.

One man was woirth all this palava. Really?

Who says they're Israelis? Targetted killing of a known terrorist. Keep harping on about illegality.

Mossad did it, if caught by Interpol they will pay for their crimes.

Again with the 'your'. There's no panicking either. There's transparency.

Bowing to world opinion.

Ah, now I'm an extremist. I'm going to crack up once you fall off that high horse of yours.

Extremist views, definitely.

Oh wait....


Britian had British agents in Ireland and had shoot-to-kill orders.

Northern Ireland is British

Edited by LashL: 

Edited for civility

. They had undercover agents in country. Not with false pasports belonging to real foreigners. Not killing people in foreign countries.

The only thing is, MI5/MI6 pay others to do their deeds for them, ie:

David Shayler

Another more descriptive article:
Why MI5 sanctioned the murder of a pensioner

Brian Nelson (1948–2003)

Did you really just quote David Shayler? That is hilarious. Truly stupendous. You do know who he is dont you? I suggest you google him.

Another article about MI5 involvement in Ireland:
MI5 says it plays by the rules. I hope that's not true

Off your high-horse you tumble.

Off yours you mean. UK and Northern Ireland. I suggest you look at a passport from a UK guy.

And the steak knife stuff is woo. Ho ho, too funny. This is worse than your Boots in Iraq facts.

 

[bigjelmapro]

You will find I mentioned doorstep originally. Fail

Yep. And still no actual term that means anything. Its not surprising to what ends you would go to continue being disingenuous. So you going to explain what you mean by doorstep? Backyard?

yes, you are arent you. Israel built walls on the Egypt side.

Still has nothing to do with your original claim. Explain how a barrier/border/whatever on the Egyptian side has to do with Israel? Yep, nothing.

Unfortunately that is incorrect. If the are caught they will pay for their crimes. They are no better than the guy they killed.

How is it incorrect? Stated already that capture was attempted on a number of occasions. All other options were exhausted.

Mossad did it, if caught by Interpol they will pay for their crimes.

Seeing as Interpol didn't give a hoot about this Hamas killing Israelis, why should Israel care about what Interpol thinks.

Extremist views, definitely.

Targetted killing of a terrorist. Very extremist.

Northern Ireland is British

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. They had undercover agents in country. Not with false pasports belonging to real foreigners. Not killing people in foreign countries.

Used to establish use of British agents were not in uniform. Which it has done effectively.

Did you really just quote David Shayler? That is hilarious. Truly stupendous. You do know who he is dont you? I suggest you google him.

Not necessarily concerned about Shayler, but the buzz around the story about the plot, which has been supported by other intelligence experts:
MI6 'halted bid to arrest bin Laden'

Off yours you mean. UK and Northern Ireland. I suggest you look at a passport from a UK guy.

And the steak knife stuff is woo. Ho ho, too funny. This is worse than your Boots in Iraq facts.

Was never on a high horse.