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is this melted steel?
is this melted steel?
Molten Steel
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Christopher7
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Like you, I believed the OCT, until I saw a video of WTC 7 imploding. It is obvious that it was a CD. It's reasonable for someone to say that they don't know for sure but anyone who says it doesn't look like a CD is lying.
You refuse to believe that your government could murder thousands of its own citizens. If you look at history you will see that this is not the first time the government has done exactly that. The only difference this time is they murdered thousands of their own citizens on US soil.
You have been brainwashed into equating 'conspiracy theory' with 'nut job' when, in fact, the official story is a conspiracy theory. The FBI has not charged Bin Laden with 9/11 because there is no hard evidence connecting him to 9/11.
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm
Conspiracys are the rule, not the exception.
John F. Kennedy warned us:
"[FONT="]We are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy."
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Christopher7
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C7 said:
It has been documented that the trade towers were made of steel.NIST has acknowledged that the videos show molten metal. Their claim that it was aluminum mixed with organic material is unprecedented and has no scientific basis.
Christopher7
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You have admitted that you have no other explanation for the molten steel.
So you switch to denial #2.
All the witnesses are wrong, there was no molten steel.
You are saying that the witnesses are just claiming there was molten steel.
You are claiming that they are all wrong.
Who has more credibility?
A bunch of anonymous people who call anyone that doubts the OCT a liar?
Or the professionals who were there?
Who should people believe?
Christopher7
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You are trying to infer that temperature/color charts are useless. The fact that they exist proves their utility.
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They weren't wrong, they were misled.
yup. They're claiming. Not proving it was.
Nope.
Lie.
Is a liar everyone who denies the OCT despite all the evidences. You have none to prove what you claim. Just a quote from Sherlock Holmes.
Another lie.
These weren't professionnals. They were just regular people with slightly more responsability than anyone else.
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I asked the same question when I first saw that pic.
Answers:
You are a liar
You are calling the witnesses liars
Why do you deny the evidence
Gvmt shill!!!
Bush lover!!!
Ignored altogether(most popular) ect. ect. ect.
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Thank you for finally admitting that all you showed us were claims of molten steel. So I gave an alternative explanation for what you gave us. This way I am explaining the same thing you are.
Precisely. There is no physical evidence for your claim. You have admitted this, although your claim is that it was removed (yet another claim for which you have no evidence).
I do not believe you, C7. You have taken their words out of context, just as you have taken mine out of context. You have lied, repeatedly and knowingly.
They are. And I have said that actual molten steel would be one explanation for these claims.
No, I am claiming that you are lying.
I have shown evidence that you have lied. I have told you what you could do to show evidence that they mean what you claim they do.
So... since you are anonymous, and you call people liars...
The majority (the vast majority) of the professionals who were there disagree with you. I think they should be believed. The vast majority of engineers, the vast majority of demolitions experts, the vast majority of any relevant researchers disagree with you.
Even your witnesses disagree with you. You have to misrepresent their words to shoehorn their statements into agreement with your fantasy.
The only thing agreeing with your lies, C7, are more of your lies.
Who should people believe? Do you really want to ask that question?
ElMondoHummus
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Heh... good point. Maybe we were seeing the interior columns melting.
Or maybe there are roadrunner physisc involved.
It took a while from the collums melted away and out the window, and until the building realised it and collapsed.
Christopher7
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That's silly. Who misled these firefighters?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afZaK8zVbUw&feature=player_embedded
Who misled Abolhassan Astenah?
"I saw melting of girders in World Trade Center."
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/science/jan-june07/overpass_05-10.html
Who misled the contractor in charge of the clean up?
[FONT="]Peter Tully: President of Tully Construction of Flushing, N.Y., told AFP that he saw pools of “literally molten steel” at the World Trade Center.[/FONT]
[FONT="]http://www.911myths.com/html/wtc_molten_steel.html
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C7 said:
They are not claiming. They are describing what they saw. Who are you to say they were 'misled'?
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Yes you are.
People should certainly not believe you! You wriggle like a worm and a school boy caught in a lie!
C7 - You jump from one theory to another and have limited to nil in way of knowledge on any. What are your qualifications to enable you to discuss explosive material, building materials, material characteristics etc etc.
Your reference material is the bible of fools and at best is idiotic.
You clearly state that you yourself believed the OCT until seeing videos of WTC7 and say that through seeing these videos that you believe WTC7 was a controled demolition? You determined a CD of WTC7 from VIDEO
I asked you some simple questions in an earlier post. You shirked them! My reasoning for asking them was simple. They highlighted that basic logic and understanding of the properties of certain materials clearly proves your theories as impossible! Impossible!
Try answering these -
Have you personally ever manipulated steel in any form whatsoever?
Have you ever used a blow torch or seen one being used?
Do you know what materials where used to fit out each level of WTC?
Have you ever physically seen, touched or used any explosive materials?
Have you ever seen what thermite/mate physically looks like?
Do you know what is required to 'detonate' or 'initiate' thermite or any explosive substance?
Many, many, many questions could be asked of you to help with your delusions. These are asked to highlight your ignornce and point you in the direction of logic. The answers would cure anyone who really wanted the 'truth' as the answers are far more revealing than any video of WTC1, 2 & 7.
I know the answers. So do those who are responding to you throughout this thread. They all know that these simple and basic answers are enough. Its not 'rocket surgery'. It doesnt need an expert. It doesnt need an in depth investigation. Basic understanding at an elimentary level is enough!
Now go do some real research on the basics. Stop putting your foot in our mouth. Stop plageurising other fools.
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Hyperbole and metaphor and for those that don't say "I Saw ...", repetition of unconfirmed rumors.
BigAl
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The firemen are being used, used by whoever edited the source video to remove the part that precedes the words in the video.
If the did say "I saw ...", you know damn well it would be all over the Internet.
Christopher7
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Not so. Their words are clear.
C7 said:
You have admitted that you don't have another explanation.
I did.
People should not believe anonymous posters who glibly say the witnesses were mistaken or misled.
Christopher7
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Hogwash! The firefighters were very clear about what they saw and it is all over the internet.
Christopher7
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Word games. Denial.
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All that is missing is "I Saw ..." or anything like it.
If they said "I saw ...", the tape wouldn't have been cut mid-sentence.
You have been had and and the firemen have been used by whoever cut the tape.
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