[Moderated]The Holocaust never happened!

headscratcher4 said:
Irving, among other things, likes argues that no written orders, and that many of the deaths were from things like Typhoid and not a specific act such as driving people into gas vans and gas chambers. What I've never understood is, say it is ONLY a million, it is a million that died because German policy put them in a position where they could die...I know, he argues then that the exageration of the deaths by Jews thus constitutes a falsification in order to justify Isreal and other Jews claims for special treatment etc.

Anyway, I am Just finishing Albert Speer and his Battle with Truth by Sereny. Facinating and frightening. The only conclusion is that the Top Brass knew what the grunts doing the killing knew. It was policy. It was intended. They were sorry they didn't get more.
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Albert Speer turned out to be a self-serving individual.
If I remember correctly, he joined the party only after Hitler came to power.
 
Wow, MaGZ proves again that he's one of the most disreputable and dishonourable people on the planet.

Hey MaGZ, why do you attempt to deny the actual physical evidence many of us have personally held in our hands? Are you HONESTLY claiming that my great-grandmother was lying when she wrote her letters to my grandfather about her experiences in the camps? About how most of MY FAMILY DIED in those camps, killed by the Nazis? Yes - gassed. Beaten to death (my great-uncle). Raped to death (my great-aunt).

Are you truly that vile?

Cheers,
TGHO
 
MaGZ, since you love them so much, why did not one camp gaurd, offical or senior Nazi Party member that was charged, and in many cases sentenced to death, use the defence that it never happened? Why did they all use defences base on following orders or it being acceptable under German law? Why didn't they say, prove that it happened? Why have none of the ones caught and tried in the past 50 years claimed that it never happened, that they were innocent because there was no holocaut? Why did they claim they were just following orders? If you were on trial for your life for a murder that never happened, would you claim as your defence that you did it because you were ordered too, or would you claim that you were innocent because there was no proof that a murder had occured?
 
Mainstreammedia said:
BTW: Here's another little holocaust myth, i'd like to clear out of the way. I'm sure you've all heard about how the brave Danes saved their jews by shipping them to Sweden? It's kinda true...
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Given the fact that 90%+ of the danish jews actually managed to survive to tell the story, it isn't "Kinda True". It happened.

EXCEPT that the warning actually came from the German High Commander in Denmark: Dr. Best,
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I've heard that one before but yet to se any credible references for it. Do you have a source? Or merely rumour?

and those brave fishermen were not as brave as they were greedy. They charged an arm and a leg for every passenger. They were probably cheering Hitler the rest of '43, since they got pretty rich of the whole deal.
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Now you are just pissing me of. Did they get payed? Yes. But you fail to see the fact that they had families which they had to support and boats to replace if the germans caught them. And that would be if they didn't get shipped off to the camps. As for the "cheering Hitler on" part, I hope you got some real good background information for that little piece of slader because I am deeply offended as a Dane that you would think so "highly" of the danish population during WW2.
 
MaGZ said:
If America lost WW II to the Japanese and the Japanese Army began to liberate the camps that held the Japanese families on the west coast, you would be able to film the same type of starvation and death that was found in the camps in Europe at the end of the war.
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What?
 
MaGZ said:
The Allies did nothing about bombing the camps because they knew it was propaganda.

An interesting point: The ‘Holocaust’ was invented in the early 1970's. Look at a dictionary or encyclopedia printed before 1970 and you will not find the ‘Holocaust’ mentioned.
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Sorry, I have to de-Ignore you just one more time... the sheer depth of your racist idiocy seems to have ruptured spacetime.

If the death camps were a propagandist lie, then why not lie about bombing them? Additional propaganda.

"The Holocaust" was not invented in the 1970's. I can only presume your little National Vanguard buddies merely burned all the encyclopedias before then. Wikipedia credits the term in English as arising in 1942:

That Wiki place said:
"Holocaust" was first used in English in the spring of 1942, when the Jerusalem historian BenZion Dinur (Dinaburg) stated that the Holocaust was a "catastrophe" that symbolized the unique situation of the Jewish people.
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Source

Why anyone would utter such an absurd and easily disproven falsehood is simply mind-boggling.

I think we've all seen, before and currently, that just about anything you type is wrong by default. I make one last impassioned plea for you to join the rest of the Human Race, drop the hate, and for FSM's sake try to learn something.
 
Mainstreammedia said:
The Ukranians and baltic people were often even more brutal than the germans themselves were, and often formed the majority of camp personel.
My dads father was Polish, and he often said, that the Latvian and Estonian SS men were the worst. You could usually tell were you had the german SS-men, but the Latvians and Estonians were like animals, according to him. Very, very brutal.
Anyways, that's something that's often forgotten: That the German themselves were a minority in the campsystems.
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The reason the Ukranian and Baltic peoples turned against the Jews was due to the fact that the Soviet secret police were made-up mostly of Jewish commissars. These people suffered terribly under the hands of the Jews. After their liberation by the German Army, the Ukranian and Baltic peoples were more than willing to take their revenge.
 
Brainster said:
In general, Holocaust Denial is not about the Holocaust. Yes, there may be some for whom it's about trying to erase the guilt of the Nazis in mass murder. But I suspect for most it's about Israel.
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You got it wrong. The ‘Holocaust’ is mostly about support for Israel.
 
Here's my question for MaGZ. It's a simple question and requires you in no way to further humiliate yourself:

Do you personally know any Jews?

I'm not counting that there's a guy who works at the post office and you know he's Jewish.

I mean, do you have any relationship with any Jew?

I'd be interested to hear.
 
MaGZ said:
If America lost WW II to the Japanese and the Japanese Army began to liberate the camps that held the Japanese families on the west coast, you would be able to film the same type of starvation and death that was found in the camps in Europe at the end of the war.
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I know I'm merely pointing out the obvious here, but anyone who really believes this is utterly insane, and offensively so. They don't even deserve the pity usually accorded the victims of mental illness, since this form of insanity is entirely willful and voluntary, based on hate and loathing -- and most of all, a sick need to find a scapegoat on which to blame all their problems.
 
MaGZ said:
The showers were for delousing.
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This guy can't be real, can he? Even as a joke this is would be despicable and offensive, but at this point he's just parroting every neo-Nazi cliche. Surely he's just some lonely kid playing a sick little joke on us.
 
Stellafane said:
This guy can't be real, can he? Even as a joke this is would be despicable and offensive, but at this point he's just parroting every neo-Nazi cliche. Surely he's just some lonely kid playing a sick little joke on us.
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Unfortunately MaGZ is for real. He's one of the true anti-Semites, a racist to the core. Even if you were to take him to the camps and show him the actual evidence, he'd still be sticking his fingers in his ears and yelling "la la la I can't hear you!".

He revels in filth. He's an abomination. I'm usually a very tolerant guy, but Holocaust deniers are the one thing guaranteed to get my goat.

Cheers,
TGHO
 
Loss Leader said:
Here's my question for MaGZ. It's a simple question and requires you in no way to further humiliate yourself:

Do you personally know any Jews?

I'm not counting that there's a guy who works at the post office and you know he's Jewish.

I mean, do you have any relationship with any Jew?

I'd be interested to hear.
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He will probably tell you some of his best friends are jews. ;)
 
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MaGZ said:
The showers were for delousing.
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You should join Stormfront, you'd be right at home there.

just out of interest, where did the Jews go? There were unquestionably millions of Jews shipped to the camps - even David Duke accepts that - so where did they go, since the camps demonstrably could neither feed nor house so many prisoners?

They all sneak off to USA to continue the Illuminatus Conspiracy?
 
I've heard that one before but yet to se any credible references for it. Do you have a source? Or merely rumour?
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There are different sources for the information that was leaked. According to some it was von Best, accordig to the Jewish Virtual Library, it was a German diplomat http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/denmark.html

Now you are just pissing me of. Did they get payed? Yes. But you fail to see the fact that they had families which they had to support and boats to replace if the germans caught them.
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Blah-blah-blah... That doesn't change the fact that it's profiteering. Not that much different from the people that smuggle refugees to Europe from Africa. They have families too you know, and boats to replace, if the Spanish navy finds them!

As for the "cheering Hitler on" part, I hope you got some real good background information for that little piece of slader because I am deeply offended as a Dane that you would think so "highly" of the danish population during WW2.
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There were almost no Danish resistance until 1943, and the resistance didn't get started for real until 1944. In other words, when it was pretty sure that Hitler would lose the war.
The only resistancefighters before 1943 were a few groups of Danish Communists, who not only had to fear the Germans, but also the Danish police, who were more than willing to catch the "terrorists" as the Danish government and even in some examples, the danish press called the resistance fighters. Trust me, Denmark has very little to be proud of, when it comes to WWII. Denmark cooperated so smoothly and willingly with NaziGermnay, that it wasn't until the end of 1944 I believe, that Denmark was accepted on the allied side.
 
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