[Moderated] So What Would You Think If This Were True?

[CosCos]

I thought you are Craig? Are you referring to yourself in the third person? Is there another Craig? Is this someone else posting under your account?

 

[David Wong]

Wait, how did JREFERs flooding the poll manage to block all the "yes" votes?

 

[Calcas]

I thought you are Craig? Are you referring to yourself in the third person? Is there another Craig? Is this someone else posting under your account?

Yep.

The jig is up.

Now we officially know that "Craig" (Lyte Trip) allows "Merc" to post under his name.

Oh, the IRONY!!!

 

[A W Smith]

The plane must stay on the South side of Columbia Pike at all times.

 

[A W Smith]

oh and merc. you are not allowed to post under another users acount.

 

[Calcas]

Oh you mean when you guys were so freaked out that you flooded the boards at LCF and rigged the polls? NONE of those polls had EVER had those kind of numbers, it was so obvious you sickos were scared and had to force your denial on everyone else.

LMAO!!!

The JFER's "flooded" the board and "rigged" the poll.

Or, perhaps, your OWN people don't believe your fairy tale.

BTW, is this Lyte or Merc?

 

[A W Smith]

B----nut, your own forum comrades don't even respond to you.

You are better off feeding pigeons in a park.

Oh you mean when you guys were so freaked out that you flooded the boards at LCF and rigged the polls? ?

let me fix this for you

Lyte even your own forum comrades don't support you. Do you remember that no one besides yourself and merc even voted to support your stand?

(edit) I mean,, yourself and Craig

 

[Lyte Trip]

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6455&d=1176530797

How is that image relevant?

1. It doesn't represent the angle that Edward describes or drew.
2. All the other witnesses saw it NORTH of the citgo which is exactly where it was headed according to Edward.

Just because it may be POSSIBLE for the plane to swerve back over to the south side of the citgo this is NOT what the witnesses saw nor is it what the FDR depicts.

Are you suggesting that Edward is correct and all the citgo witnesses hallucinated the opposite of reality?

Why would you accept only Edward and dismiss the citgo witnesses?

You aren't using your critical thinking noggin.

 

[Lyte Trip]

Merc doesn't post here.

I no longer post under Lyte Trip.

I now post under Craig Ranke CIT.

My aliases are retired.

In fact I'd appreciate it if they would change my name here but I have a feeling it won't happen.

 

[Jonnyclueless]

Ya know, half the people on the Titanic swore that it broke in half and the other half swore it went down in one piece. Both sides were absolutely positive of what they saw. Yet both can't be right.

 

[Lyte Trip]

LMAO!!!

The JFER's "flooded" the board and "rigged" the poll.

Or, perhaps, your OWN people don't believe your fairy tale.

BTW, is this Lyte or Merc?

There was never any poll about our "theory" and the polls you are referring to were deleted by the mods BECAUSE they were clearly rigged.

This is Craig Ranke CIT.

 

[A W Smith]

How is that image relevant?

1. It doesn't represent the angle that Edward describes or drew.

It doesn't? check my flight path again. It is exactly the same path that paik drew. It is also the same direction that Paik is pointing. Notice he cannot see the top of the annex

2. All the other witnesses saw it NORTH of the citgo which is exactly where it was headed according to Edward.

In the audio interview of lagasse posted in this thread above he states that the plane flew 100 feet above and 60 feet to the side of him. Yet 5 years later he points to the Arlington retaining wall a hundred yards away.

Just because it may be POSSIBLE for the plane to swerve back over to the south side of the citgo this is NOT what the witnesses saw nor is it what the FDR depicts.

Are you suggesting that Edward is correct and all the citgo witnesses hallucinated the opposite of reality?
Why would you accept only Edward and dismiss the citgo witnesses?

You aren't using your critical thinking noggin.

are you suggesting your three witnesses are correct and hundreds of witnesses hallucinated the opposite of reality? You are not using your critical thinking noggin.

 

[Lyte Trip]

It doesn't? check my flight path again. It is exactly the same path that paik drew. It is also the same direction that Paik is pointing. Notice he cannot see the top of the annex.

He has it angled more towards the north. Fair enough though. I will give you the notion that it is hypothetically POSSIBLE for the plane to have moved back over to the south side. Unfortunately for you none of the other evidence (FDR or eyewitnesses) support this so it will forever remain hypothetical.

In the audio interview of lagasse posted in this thread above he states that the plane flew 100 feet above and 60 feet to the side of him. Yet 5 years later he points to the Arlington retaining wall a hundred yards away.

He was estimating both times and in my interview he ADMITTED that the plane may have been closer to the station. Minor differences about how far north of the station are IRRELEVANT to the point because Lagasse specifically said it was "debatable" how far north but NOT debatable that it was north.

PLUS for some reason you are forgetting that this is 100% corroborated by Brooks AND Turcios who happen to ALSO put the plane to the north side while slightly varying in how far to the north side.

We don't have to rely on Lagasse.

Nobody said any of them were 100% accurate. But the very general claim of the north side has been corroborated strong enough to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

are you suggesting your three witnesses are correct and hundreds of witnesses hallucinated the opposite of reality? You are not using your critical thinking noggin.

What?

You're kidding right?

There is not ONE witness statement that directly contradicts them.

Not one.

Either back up your statement or retract it.

 

[A W Smith]

You're kidding right?

There is not ONE witness statement that directly contradicts them.

Not one.

Either back up your statement or retract it.

From witness James S Robbins

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]I went back to my office around 9:20. A short time later a friend of mine called, an Air Force officer, and we spoke awhile about the strikes in New York. I was standing, looking out my large office window, which faces west and from six stories up has a commanding view of the Potomac and the Virginia heights. (When I hired on my boss said we had the best view in town. True, most days.) The Pentagon is about a mile and half distant in the center of the tableau. I was looking directly at it when the aircraft struck. The sight of the 757 diving in at an unrecoverable angle is frozen in my memory, but at the time, I did not immediately comprehend what I was witnessing. There was a silvery flash, an explosion, and a dark, mushroom shaped cloud rose over the building. I froze, gaping for a second until the sound of the detonation, a sharp pop at that distance, shook me out of it. I shouted something both extremely profane and sacrilegious and told my friend, "They hit the Pentagon. We're under attack. Gotta go." I hung up the phone and turned back to the window to see the dark cloud spreading. I yelled down the hall, "Look out the window!" I heard gasps outside, and a researcher dashed into my office and stared. I grabbed my bags and said I was getting out of the building and invited others to do the same. I took the elevator down and walked to the edge of the greensward, in easy view of the Pentagon across the river. I set down my bags and stood in the dew soaked grass, seeing the brilliant blue sky filling with rolling clouds of smoke. The blackness stretched south the length of the horizon. The adrenaline of the initial shock had worn off a bit, and I was able to take in the enormity of the event. Even more than witnessing the plane crash, I remember those long helpless minutes standing in the grass.[/FONT]

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

He has it angled more towards the north. Fair enough though. I will give you the notion that it is hypothetically POSSIBLE for the plane to have moved back over to the south side. Unfortunately for you none of the other evidence (FDR or eyewitnesses) support this so it will forever remain hypothetical.

He was estimating both times and in my interview he ADMITTED that the plane may have been closer to the station. Minor differences about how far north of the station are IRRELEVANT to the point because Lagasse specifically said it was "debatable" how far north but NOT debatable that it was north.

PLUS for some reason you are forgetting that this is 100% corroborated by Brooks AND Turcios who happen to ALSO put the plane to the north side while slightly varying in how far to the north side.

We don't have to rely on Lagasse.

Nobody said any of them were 100% accurate. But the very general claim of the north side has been corroborated strong enough to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

What?

You're kidding right?

There is not ONE witness statement that directly contradicts them.

Not one.

Either back up your statement or retract it.

Almost two months. When are you going to the authorities with your evidence Lyte?
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[DavidJames]

In fact I'd appreciate it if they would change my name here but I have a feeling it won't happen.

PM a mod, they should be able to change your name. I've seen it done here before.

 

[Lyte Trip]

From witness James S Robbins

Haha!

Is this a gift for me?

Thanks for a PERFECT example of how bad witness statements are skewed.

There is no way James Robbins saw the plane at all from across the Potomac!

This is Scott Cook's view but he was pretty much as close to the Pentagon as you can get from across the river.

Think about it. The plane was allegedly a foot above the ground on the OTHER side of the Pentagon.

Sure he may have seen the explosion but there is no way he saw the plane at all (especially coming in at an unrecoverable angle which means dive bombing and contradicts the official story 100%) let alone if it was on the north or south side of the citgo!

 

[R.Mackey]

PLUS for some reason you are forgetting that this is 100% corroborated by Brooks AND Turcios who happen to ALSO put the plane to the north side while slightly varying in how far to the north side.

We don't have to rely on Lagasse.

Nobody said any of them were 100% accurate. But the very general claim of the north side has been corroborated strong enough to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

What?

You're kidding right?

There is not ONE witness statement that directly contradicts them.

Not one.

Either back up your statement or retract it.

I believe you're already familiar with Lloyde England... you already know this, hence you hand-wave him away by saying his account is "impossible." Only by your standards, of course, making it a circular argument.

I might also remind you of your theory, and why it's nuttier than an asylum built from cashews.

 

[Lyte Trip]

So yeah. He is either lying about seeing the plane come in at an "unrecoverable angle" or else he has proven the official story false which requires it to come in low and level to the ground.

 

[Lyte Trip]

I believe you're already familiar with Lloyde England... you already know this, hence you hand-wave him away by saying his account is "impossible." Only by your standards, of course, making it a circular argument.

I might also remind you of your theory, and why it's nuttier than an asylum built from cashews.

EXACTLY!

Lloyd and his dubious account is the best they've got!

It really boils down to whether or not you believe Lloyd the lone cabby and the indestructible hood.......

Or Edward, Robert, Chad, and Bill!

That's it!

Virtually all the other accounts could go either way.

They've got a couple more that INDIRECTLY contradict them....Frank Probst and a couple others but that is IT!

Not a single witness directly contradicts the north side claim.

Not one.