[Moderated] So What Would You Think If This Were True?


DUDE!!!!!

THANK YOU!!!

I knew I had heard that one wing hit the ground. I need to look into that and get some more info on it. Now I have a source to start looking at (other than just a half-rememered TV documentary)!

AHA!!!

The report is at http://www.fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/build03/PDF/b03017.pdf

Section 3.7, end of page 18/top of page 19:

"After the plane had travelled approximately another 75 ft, the left engine struvk the ground at nearly the same instant that the nose of the aircraft struck the west wall of the Pentagon (figure 3.15)."

The quote I remembered was about finding wing debris buried in the ground, though. Not quite the same, but I feel a bit less as if I was Loosing my mind :D
 
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I missed the last two shows of Lost, did I miss anything important Skeptic4Sure?

Is it me or are they no longer shooting in film?
 
Well if that's the logic you want to use, then you've been protecting the murderers and obstructing justice and should be hanged or shot for treason.

In law, treason is the crime of disloyalty to one's nation or state. A person who betrays the nation of their citizenship and/or reneges on an oath of loyalty and in some way willfully cooperates with an enemy, is considered to be a traitor. Oran's Dictionary of the Law (1983) defines treason as: "...[a]...citizen's actions to help a foreign government overthrow, make war against, or seriously injure the [parent nation]." In many nations, it is also often considered treason to attempt or conspire to overthrow the government, even if no foreign country is aided or involved by such an endeavour.

Traitor may also mean a person who betrays (or is accused of betraying) their own political party, family, friends, ethnic group, religion, or other group to which they may belong. Often, such accusations are controversial and disputed, as the person may not identify with the group of which they are a member, or may otherwise disagree with the group leaders making the charge. See, for example, race traitor.

At times, the term "traitor" has been levelled as a political epithet, regardless of any verifiable treasonous action. In a civil war or insurrection, the winners may deem the losers to be traitors. Likewise the term "traitor" is used in heated political discussion – typically as a slur against political dissidents, or against officials in power who are perceived as failing to act in the best interest of their constituents. In certain cases, as with the German Dolchstoßlegende, the accusation of treason towards a large group of people can be a unifying political message.

Figures in history who are renowned for acts of treachery have subsequently had their names become synonymous with the word "traitor". Some examples are Benedict Arnold, Pétain, Quisling, and Ephialtes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason

With that out of the way. Get it through your CT-laden skull, people that come to different conclusions than you are not, by default, part of whatever grand conspiracy you have cooked up.
 
Skeptic4Sure:

Once again, you may not be "John Doe X," but are you "JohnDoeX?"

Are you "Killtown?" "Merc?"

From what I can tell, Lyte is Merc AKA Craig. S4Brains is That One Dood, whom ever that may be! Seems to be a hanger on!

ETA: Lyte seems to be the "brains", if they have such a thing!
 
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Skeptic4Sure:

Once again, you may not be "John Doe X," but are you "JohnDoeX?"

Are you "Killtown?" "Merc?"

Sh#t4Brains aka JDX has a hard time answering such questions. But I know S4B is JDX, I have evidence. And eventually there will be plenty evidence for everyone. I'm just not ready to present it yet.
 
Nope.

It's undamaged.

That is a reflection.

[qimg]http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/pentagon%20trip/Picture038resized.jpg[/qimg]

Look at the flash from the camera and the capitol cab sign in the reflection.

[qimg]http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/pentagon%20trip/Picture039resized.jpg[/qimg]

You can see the cab sign in this reflection too. No damage.

[qimg]http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/pentagon%20trip/lloydcab.jpg[/qimg]

Why would you automatically assumed the lamp post would hit broad side on to the hood of the car? The lamp post is shaped like an upside-down "L". The plane imact could have knocked the lamp post over in a way so that the short perpendicular portion of the lamp post to poke thorough the windshield and hit the passenger seat and roll out to one side of the car without ever hitting the hood. Kind of like how a pickaxe standing upright on it handle would fall over hit the ground with its pointed end and then flop over.

ETA: I didn't see this post.
Here is an illustration that Lloyd drew of how the pole was sitting in his cab before he removed it. (he also claims he "fell down" while removing it)
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From the drawing it looks like the post did not hit the hood of the car. Lloyd said "HE" fell down, not the post.
 
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I believe Lloyd said the short part was not on the pole. It was the long piece that did the penetration! The pic shows the neck broken off!
 
I believe Lloyd said the short part was not on the pole. It was the long piece that did the penetration! The pic shows the neck broken off!

Thanks, I stand corrected. But I wonder how coherent Lloyd was after having a lamp post bearly miss impaling you.
 
I think Lyte is just angry that Mr. Walter overcooked his hamburger. I know when I try to woo CT'ist (because, you know I am a government agent), I usually make ribs with a chemtrail rub. No complaints so far!
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But I wonder how coherent Lloyd was after having a lamp post bearly miss impaling you.

I would guess pretty freaked out, like all normal humans! What a F'ing strange fictional hypothesis, Lyte and crew are regurgitating! WTF would anyone bother with faking light poles? It makes no sense! Par for their course...I suppose!
 
I am not ashamed of anything I have posted.
At this point the notion that Lloyd was under some sort of mind-control or hypnosis on that day simply cannot be easily dismissed. ...He offered to take us to go look at the cab in the country but we simply didnt have the time and frankly I wouldnt have gone anyway!
Since you don't feel shame at:

1) Stating that a witness who disagrees with you may be under "some sort of mind-control or hypnosis"

2) Stating that you would not look at important physical evidence of the story you claimed to be "investigating," given the chance,

Then, are you capable of feeling shame?

And how do you know you're not under mind-control or hypnosis? That's a serious question.

And why wouldn't you look at physical evidence of the story you claim to be "investigating?" As a seeker of "truth," you're not ashamed of that position? I'm certainly embarrassed for you.
 
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And why wouldn't you look at physical evidence of the story you claim to be "investigating?"

Afraid of what they might find , me thinks! The fear is strong with this one.
 
There is not a single eyewitness who isn't under mind-control, hypnosis, or isn't a government deep-cover agent that directly contradicts the north of the citgo station claim.
Correction added. You're a sick, sick boy. Grow up.
 
"Here is a scenario that I have speculated:

The orginal poles were removed in the middle of the night before and it was made to look like normal maintenance.

Pre-damaged poles were placed in the less conspicuous areas perhaps an hour before the event.

Lloyd, his cab, and the pole that allegedly hit it were placed just at/during the moment of impact by the "silent friend" in the van that allegedly helped him "remove" the pole from his cab.

No big deal for the richest, most skilled, most deceptive covert intelligence organization in the world to pull off in their own backyard that's for sure."

Im think im beginning to understand the CT process. Im going to plant a bombshell. I think the poles were exploded with thermite.
 
If it's going to take another month, I'd guess they're doing more than editing; they are packaging a product.

I believe you are drastically overestimating their ability to work efficiently and/or effectively. I'm expecting to be completely underwhelmed by their "product".

My guess is that their only purpose here is oppo-research.

This is my guess as well.
 

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