[Moderated]Pentagon Struck By Tomahawk Missile 'AND' A PLANE

[Dave Rogers]

My “Horizontal X-Axis Plane” is located at 5 feet representing the same elevation shared by the Security Camera (we are looking through), the top of the right-hand column, a reference point just above the horizon AND (most importantly) the very nose of our flying object.

Your reference point "just above the horizon" is part way up a stand of trees, so at the very least it's several feet and more likely several tens of feet above the viewing point. Coupled with no eyewitness evidence of an A-3 or a Tomahawk missile, over 100 eyewitness reports consistent with a 757 and a complete lack of parts of an A3 or a Tomahawk at the scene of the crash, plus the otherwise unexplained absence of flight 77 or presence of the passengers' DNA at the scene, I would have to conclude that I've already paid more attention to this tissue of speculation and fantasy than it ever warranted in the first place. Thank you for playing.

Dave

 

[funk de fino]

Why would a Tomohawk missile have a bow shockwave?

You have ignored my earlier posts why is that?

 

[BenBurch]

Terral,

And the other pictures full of debris?

-Ben

P.S. You are still evading what date and location that angle-cut pillar picture was taken at. You can't find out, can you? That picture cannot even be proven to have been taken in Manhattan, can it?

 

[Dave Rogers]

Someone please point to your 100-Ton Jetliner or even a piece of paper on the lawn.

It's on the left, in between the clearly visible tail of an A-3 Skywarrior and the nose of the Tomahawk missile that's just in shot. Parts of it are obscured by the anti-aircraft missile batteries and the hologram projector of the flying saucer on the lawn, but if you squint a bit I'm sure you can see it.

Dave

 

[JamesB]

Greetings to All:




Coin’s reply was made in two minutes, which clearly testifies that he made no attempt to even examine the OP evidence. JamesB’s reply is a typical JREF response from someone without a case for anything.

No, I have been laughing at your posts over on the LCF for weeks. I am quite familiar with your claims (well more than they deserve), especially your complete lack of understanding of perspective, something my 4 year old nephew has figured out.

 

[Shalamar]

What is the diameter of the entry point in the Pentagon?

What is the diameter of the fuselage of the airliner that (supposedly) crashed into it?

Please note: I am not interested in the *parked height* of the aircraft. I'm interested in the fuselage itself.

 

[JamesB]

I seen a claim by Terral from elsewhere that the witness' did not see the Tomahawk because it was supersonic but in fact the Tomahawk has a top speed approx the same as the jetliner and is subsonic???

Yeah, that was over at the LCF. The Tomahawk is quite subsonic.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/bgm-109.htm


Speed: Subsonic - about 550 mph (880 km/h)

They are also quite visible. I distinctly remember watching them fly by the camera during the invasion of Iraq, and that was at night even.

 

[rcronk]

Terral - Could you please explain how some of the evidence doesn't match your theory? It has been asked above by others but you avoided it. I'll re-post it here for your convenience:

1. How did the Tomahawk missile knock and buckle the lamp posts? Please provide valid scientific calculations proving this.

2. Account for the [108] witnesses' testimony that saw a [757] jet liner strike the pentagon.

3. Account for the 757 aircraft debris seen on the crash site. (http://www.911myths.com/html/757_wreckage.html)

4. Account for the human remains from the passengers in the aircraft, found on the crash site [by first responders]. Some of these first responders testify that they walked among burnt bodies still strapped into their seats and carried with their own hands the body parts of the passengers. ("When [Army Staff Sgt. Mark] Williams discovered the scorched bodies of several airline passengers, they were still strapped into their seats. The stench of charred flesh overwhelmed him." http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/sept01/2001-09-14-pentagon-usat.htm)

If you ignore these problems with your theory again, I will consider you a troll and will no longer pay attention to you. Are you really seeking truth or are you just here to prove your point is true regardless of the evidence against it? Think hard before answering that question.

P.S. 5. Do you have photos of any tomahawk missile parts?

 

[Horatius]

Terral

Terral, you're already in the lead! You don't need to keep trying this hard!


Rest on your laurels, already.

 

[bje]

Terral has been going on about this on LCF insulting everyone in the process.

Ignore the troll.

 

[Hammer_of_Thor]

All of the witnesses would have to be in on the conspiracy or contacted and "silenced" later. And this is what they allege.

I understand that this is what they allege, but it is so far out there in the realm of possibility, in my mind. Even if they said that it was a military plane that crashed into the pentagon, that sounds a little more likely. Just a little.

 

[JoeEllison]

Hey, explain the 6 billion people who didn't see a missile!

Or, you know, explain why hitting a building with a missile AND a jet, five minutes apart, isn't just the flat-out stupidest thing imaginable. Explain that one.

 

[Belz...]

Write your rebuttal 'IF' you have a case

I'd write a rebuttal 'IF' YOU had a case.

 

[ref]

Ignoring the OP, but here is a good look of what a Tomahawk Land Attack Missile (TLAM) looks like in the air. Clearly visible.



Here is the sound. Clearly audible.

 

[Belz...]

Awww... c'mon guys... don't do it to me. You know the drill....

Keep it civil.... attack the argument, not the arguer....

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: chillzero

It's so very, very difficult though.

Woah. Two chest avatars back-to-back.

Woah... gotta focus...

 

[twinstead]

terral, I'm sure, is a fine upstanding guy, and possibly even perfectly sane.

Now, if terral were crazy, not that I am accusing him of such, he would be the last to know because truly crazy people have no idea they are crazy.

His theory, however, is utter goo goo flipidy dipity looney tooney woo woo crazy.

 

[Belz...]

The fact is that we can gather the data from these video images to give us a geometric grid map where simple algebraic equations can be generated and solved to provide the approximate diameter of this flying object:

[qimg]http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Terral03/a1-Frame1a.jpg[/qimg]

You're saying that the Pentagon is 10 feet tall ?

Yes! You win the award for using 14 words to convey an opinion apart from supporting anything with credible evidence. Just show us your pictures of Flight 77 crashed ANYWHERE and you win the prize. :0) GL, because none exist anywhere.

Yeah, it's usually hard AFTER the plane has crashed.

And this is also quite funny:

Yeah, that was over at the LCF. The Tomahawk is quite subsonic.

HAH! There goes that theory.

 

[BenBurch]

I remember during gulf war I there was a video where a reporter was talking in a grove of fig trees and a Tomahawk zoomed right over at treetop level surprising the hell out of the crew. It was loud. It was visible.

 

[Shalamar]

I believe the main problem with the security parking camera, is that it uses a 'wide angle' or 'fish eye' lens to take is a great deal more of its immediate surroundings. This tends to distort images farther away.

Thus, a 10 foot tall pentagon!

 

[Belz...]

Terral has been going on about this on LCF insulting everyone in the process.

Ignore the troll.

I like this little truther gem in response:

However, what we should focus on is something that we're sure of. The part of the pentagon that was hit was nearly empty and had blast resistant windows. Is that supposed to be dismissed as luck?

There ARE no coincidences.