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[Moderated]Pentagon Struck By Tomahawk Missile 'AND' A PLANE

Terral

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Greetings to All:

The Pentagon was attacked at 9:32 AM by a Tomahawk Missile and again at 9:37 AM by a refitted remote-controlled A-3 Skywarrior Jet [stop demonizing me as a 'no-planer' and just offer rebuttals to my work] in a second attack. The Department of Defense has been running a cover up operation from the very beginning in a case literally filled to the brim with carefully planted disinformation to throw 911Truth investigators off the track. The Official Government/Media timeline ( http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/11/chronology.attack/ ) has been manipulated and purposely fabricated to give credibility and believability to a Flight 77 HOAX with no basis in reality whatsoever. Official Pentagon 9/11 pictures have been photoshopped to conceal the 911Truth that the E-Ring wall was struck not once, but twice in two separate attacks just five minutes apart.

This story begins with evidence from the Arlington County After-Action Report ( http://www.arlingtonva.us/Departments/Fire...fter_report.pdf ) that “Captain Steve McCoy and the crew of Engine 101 were in route to a training session” traveling north on Interstate 395. At 9:38 AM they were talking about the World Trade Center attacks and saw a Jetliner disappear from sight with an explosion. However, they were “unable to pinpoint the precise location,” because at that point only the Foam 161 fire crew had responded to the 9:32 AM missile attack. Right away you should realize this report and time place the ‘second’ crew’s location having nothing to do with the Foam 161 crew ‘already at the Pentagon.’ The report says,

“Captain Dennis Gilroy and his team were already on station at the Pentagon when Flight #77 (not) slammed into it, just beyond the heliport. Foam 161 caught fire and suffered a flat tire from flying debris. Firefighters Mark Skipper and Alan Wallace were outside the vehicle at impact and received burns and lacerations.”


Fort Myer Rescue Engine 161 (second truck from Foam 161) is mentioned in this report: http://www.public-action.com/911/rescue/nfpa-article/

The ARFF foam units knocked down the bulk of the fire in the first seven minutes after their arrival, said Captain Michael Defina, who was the shift commander that day at National . . . Captain Defina drove onto the heliport and directed Foam Unit 331 to set up there, where Fort Myer Rescue Engine161 had established a hydrant water supply.


The problem with both reports is they tell the story from perspectives other than from the vantage point of Fort Myer Foam 161 that was "on station" ( http://arlingtonfirejournal.blogspot.com/2...t-pentagon.html = second from bottom ) and at the scene ‘before’ the 9:38 AM timelines established by ‘others’ coming along after the original Missile strike at 9:32 AM. The Fort Meyer "on station Foam 161" appears to be in position at 9:37 AM with firemen "outside the vehicle" (ACAAC Page 26 = A-4*) when the remote-controlled A-3 Skywarrior entered Pentagon airspace for the ‘second’ attack. The only way I can place Fort Meyer "Foam 161" on the scene near the entry hole to be hit in the A-3 Skywarrior attack is for them to be "outside the vehicle" responding to the ‘earlier’ 9:32 AM attack. These frames show how the missile approached and detonated:

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This fire is limited to the direct area surrounding the 18-feet diameter entry hole that Foam 161 was preparing to knocked down. However, this picture shows evidence of a much wider attack running far north of the E-ring entry hole. The Foam 161 crewmen ("Mark Skipper and Alan Wallace"*) were reported to be in a state of "shock" after the 9:37 AM A-3 Skywarrior attack, so I am not even sure if they realize today the reason they were standing outside the truck in time to be almost killed. By the time they recovered, the landscape was filled with engines and firemen; so they began assisting people evacuating the area. Click on the Geoffmetcalf link to see the best image, then my picture is a cut showing the A-3 Skywarrior impact location.

Too big to post. Use the zoom option > http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon/images/2.jpg

Examine the original large photo to realize there is no foam yet sprayed on anything. The time of this picture must be between 9:32 AM and the period 'before' Foam Unit #331 ( http://www.public-action.com/911/rescue/nfpa-article/ ) showed up later to put down foam. The important detail to note is our fire is raging at least forty feet to the left (north) of the SUV, which seems a highly unlikely location for any fire from the original missile attack directly over the cable spools ( http://www.911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/e.../dodvideos.html = examine all 9:32 AM frames carefully ) .

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A close up shot reveals our tall green undamaged SUV with mystery debris littering the area south (right) of Column Line 7. The white Nissan is parked in front of Column Line 6, which is 80 feet north of the center (Line 14) of our E-Ring entry hole. That means the fire burning to the north of our Nissan is at least 120 feet from the original impact crater, which appears highly unlikely from the damage recorded in the original missile strike. While we do not have nearly enough damage to the E-Ring limestone wall to support the Official Flight 77 cover story, we appear to have plenty of evidence to support a second attack from a remote-controlled A-3 Skywarrior. Here is News footage of my eyewitnesses to a small plane striking the Pentagon. Don Wright testifies to seeing a 'twin-engine' plane crashing into the Pentagon fitting the description perfectly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD0qpbwHCYI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=schV0rKCRwA

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Ter...-DSC_0430-1.jpg

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This appears to be a first response picture of Foam Unit #331 on the scene directly in front of the 18-feet diameter entry hole. Note the tall green SUV appears undamaged, but with a large section of debris stretched across the hood.

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However, this NF #2-5 11:55 AM entry on my timeline shows our SUV is now much shorter and has become white AND is now located in front of Column Line 4. :0) This picture appears to be a fake. :0) These two vehicles change colors often and appear on fire in many of the pictures, because the photoshop artist used the smoke to cover his mistakes. Therefore, my Sundial measurements can very well off, if the two merged pictures are from 9/11 and 9/12 or beyond.

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This picture of the left side damage shows our little white two-door Nissan and the larger green undamaged SUV between Column Lines 5 and 7.

Great Website for more info >> http://www.911studies.com/911photostudies8.htm

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This photo shows the area in front of Column Lines 5 – 8 and our vehicles have switched colors. :0) ( more on that here: http://911review.org/brad.com/pentagonpictures.html ) We have two sets of Pentagon photographs with changing vehicles clearly indicating a high percentage of these pictures have been doctored to hide plane wreckage from the second attack at 9:37 AM.

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This is my NF#3 picture from the “DoD No Fight Fire” ( http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15882 ) Thread given the 1:00 PM time very near the Zenith where the sun climbs to its highest point in the sky. I have been assuming this picture was taken on 9/11, because the fire is raging some 250 feet from the original E-Ring entry hole. However, even our white SUV and black sports car have been removed from this picture either manually or by photoshopping the image. I am beginning to believe my original observations of these lackadaisical firemen have been wrong from the beginning, because they too have been cleverly pasted into the background image. Whoever doctored these images is definitely hiding evidence between Column Lines 5 and 13 where I now believe the A-3 Skywarrior Jet attack occurred at 9:37 AM. The Department of Defense has manipulated practically all the Pentagon data to fabricate a fictitious timeline in support of their Official Flight 77 Cover Story. This explains why so many 911Truthers have contradictory explanations for what really happened at the Pentagon, because there were two attacks (missile and plane) all along.

Terral

PS. My "Flight 93" Case INCLUDES A PLANE. What in the heck is the matter with you guys? The PLANE certainly met an untimely demise on 9/11, but did not crash into that empty field. Moving my work out of here to then close the thread is an attempt to micromanage member content and that is the reason our fathers climbed into ships and left Europe. Think about it . . . and put my Flight 93 work back where it belongs in plain sight of everyone. Write your rebuttal 'IF' you have a case, which you do not . . . And, do not move this thread over your ridiculous "no plane" accusations, because everyone and their brother can see the PLANE appears in the OP Topic Title. This topic is also being debated here on a 'level playing field.'

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=16120
 
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He is using a link from a website by Geoff Metcalf. Not sure if he is using it without his permission, as Mr. Metcalf SEEMS to be a normal person. But IF he is Geoff Metcalf, this was on his site:

Oh my this is ripe, from his website:


Metcalf is a dynamic, charismatic, and witty speaker. Geoff is a retired Army officer and former Green Beret. A strong defender of the Bill of Rights, he is the recipient of numerous civic awards including the NRA s "Defender of Freedom Award".
He is available to speak to a wide variety of audiences on a wide variety of topics. In addition to being able to speak about any of his columns, here is a partial list of topics:
  • Urban Legends
Urban Legends? Does he mean that he "SUPPORTS" them?
:shocked:

http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/speaker.html
 
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My my.

Terral "This is MY thread and you will do what I say!" is back.

I'm sure you have dozens of witnesses and physical evidence to this A-3 AND tomahawk missile, right?

Just please don't bring out your "stopped clock" evidence!
 
Terral

as long as you do not lie again i will continue

1. why did none of the witness see the Tomahawk?

2. why did they see a large jetliner?

3. when were the A-3 Skyhawk retired ?
 
Terral

In NF3 photo the SUV and the car are behind the Firetruck next to the burnt and blackened tree

wake up
 
Now the fun and games begin!!

Can you clarify certain aspects in your theory:

1) How did the Tomahawk missile knock and buckle the lamp posts? Please provide valid scientific calculations proving this.

2) Account for the witness testimony that saw a jet liner strike the pentagon.

3) Account for the aircraft debris seen on the crash site.

4) Account for the human remains from the passengers in the aircraft, found on the crash site.

5) Prove that the fireman you see in the photograph are suppose to be fighting the fire (you annotate your photograph saying Nobody is fighting the fire - what are you implying here). Is it not plausible that their job is to provide logistical support outside the building? Could they be relief fireman? Im sure YCHTT will provide an insight to this.

Thank you.
 
It's interesting. I've often wondered what defenses would do if given an opportunity that they witnessed for sure something about to hit the Pentagon. Would they try to shoot it even right up until seconds before impact? Flying over Washington DC where would be the best place to shoot down something? How do you know what it’s going to rain down on?
 
It's interesting. I've often wondered what defenses would do if given an opportunity that they witnessed for sure something about to hit the Pentagon. Would they try to shoot it even right up until seconds before impact? Flying over Washington DC where would be the best place to shoot down something? How do you know what it’s going to rain down on?

Think of that next time you swear up and down that Flight 93 was shot down
 
It's interesting. I've often wondered what defenses would do if given an opportunity that they witnessed for sure something about to hit the Pentagon. Would they try to shoot it even right up until seconds before impact? Flying over Washington DC where would be the best place to shoot down something? How do you know what it’s going to rain down on?

What defenses?
 
Now the fun and games begin!!

Can you clarify certain aspects in your theory:

1) How did the Tomahawk missile knock and buckle the lamp posts? Please provide valid scientific calculations proving this.

2) Account for the witness testimony that saw a jet liner strike the pentagon.

3) Account for the aircraft debris seen on the crash site.

4) Account for the human remains from the passengers in the aircraft, found on the crash site.

5) Prove that the fireman you see in the photograph are suppose to be fighting the fire (you annotate your photograph saying Nobody is fighting the fire - what are you implying here). Is it not plausible that their job is to provide logistical support outside the building? Could they be relief fireman? Im sure YCHTT will provide an insight to this.

Thank you.


While you're at it, please also explain the lack of TLAM and A-3 debris. And then explain why the A-3 had to impact the Pentagon rather than just use its inherent ability to drop munitions on targets.
 
Let's see... HUNDREDS of witnesses saw a plane. ONE hit was witnessed. No subsequent impacts were witnessed. Therefore all your work was for naught.
 
One thing troofers, most of whom whose military experience does not extend past the Playstation, do not realize is that these systems, Tomahawks, Global Hawks, Predators etc. ARE NOT INVISIBLE! They are also quite distinctive looking. An airplane flying near the Pentagon, being that it is right next to an airport may not draw much attention. You would notice, however, a cruise missile flying by in broad daylight.
 
I love this part:
noplanerTerral said:
running a cover up operation from the very beginning in a case literally filled to the brim with carefully planted disinformation to throw 911Truth investigators off the track.

So, not only are they SOOOOO Smart that they pulled this off without leaving any evidence of MIHOP, they intentionally went out of their way to place DISINFO during the attack to make MIHOPers look and sound insane!

*scratches head*

It's all so simple now! Actual evidence to prove twoofers wrong = carefully place disinfo that would appear to prove twoofers wrong... but is actually PROOF that twoofers are right.

The lack of evidence IS evidence!
 
This is getting really deep. Two attacks, neither of them by a 757. 5 minutes apart. No eyewitnesses. A motorway passes the impact point close by. 5 minutes. No witnesses.

I thought I had pretty much heard it all. This one surprised me. I hand't. Bye bye this thread.
 
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This is getting really deep. Two attacks, neither of them by a 757. 5 minutes apart. No eyewitnesses. A motorway passes the impact point close by. 5 minutes. No witnesses.

I thought I had pretty much heard it all. This one surprised me. I hand't. Bye bye this thread.

The Cabbie was obviously an Illuminati Adept as were all of the motorists on the road at that time.
 
This is getting really deep. Two attacks, neither of them by a 757. 5 minutes apart. No eyewitnesses. A motorway passes the impact point close by. 5 minutes. No witnesses.

I thought I had pretty much heard it all. This one surprised me. I hand't. Bye bye this thread.

Wait, don't you see. It's obvious... The NWO had a time-stopping device!!!



And the Moon? The hoax was SO full of Disinfo that they actually sent men to the moon to land, JUST IN CASE THE MOVIE SET IN ARIZONA FAILED!
 
I seen a claim by Terral from elsewhere that the witness' did not see the Tomahawk because it was supersonic but in fact the Tomahawk has a top speed approx the same as the jetliner and is subsonic???
 
I seen a claim by Terral from elsewhere that the witness' did not see the Tomahawk because it was supersonic but in fact the Tomahawk has a top speed approx the same as the jetliner and is subsonic???

Even if they somehow missed what caused them, everyone would without a doubt have witnessed two separate impacts and explosions.
 

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