Militia question 1

[CFLarsen]

Are retroactive laws unconstitutional or not, Claus?

Do they exist? Yes, they do.

Have they successfully been challenged? No, they have not.

 

[CFLarsen]

Claus, you know PERFECTLY WELL that I NEVER stated that I would EVER use a gun against you.

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Bringing a gun somewhere is NOT a threat. Threatening someone with a gun is a very serious crime.

How else can I interpret your post, if not a threat?

You have committed libel against me.

I await the lawsuit.

 

[tim]

And now, the shouting and ranting begins....

What's next? Are you going to threaten me with a gun again?

Claus, can you point out the post in which Shanek threatened you with a gun, please?

 

[CFLarsen]

Claus, can you point out the post in which Shanek threatened you with a gun, please?

Look above.

There is no other way I can interpret this.

 

[tim]

OK, fellers, how about a few deep breaths?
Do you need brown paper bags to breathe into?
You are both intelligent people, IMHO. You may not agree on things, but don't you think you should cool it a little? Claus, I don't think you are in mortal danger of being shot down by Shanek at TAM3. Shanek, are you going to sue Claus? Not when you've both calmed down.
You know, I was reading a thread recently where a new poster was complimenting us on the adult and polite way we debate in this forum. Erm..........

 

[shanek]

Shanek, are you going to sue Claus?

If he persists in this behavior, yes, I will. This is not the first time a poster has made libelous comments against me on this board. I can deal with just about anything else on my own. But that definitely crosses a line.

 

[CFLarsen]

OK, fellers, how about a few deep breaths?
Do you need brown paper bags to breathe into?

Not me. I am ice-cold right now.

You are both intelligent people, IMHO. You may not agree on things, but don't you think you should cool it a little?

It is not me who threatens to bring a gun to TAM3, solely for the purpose of intimidation.

Claus, I don't think you are in mortal danger of being shot down by Shanek at TAM3.

I wasn't talking about being shot down (although there certainly is a risk of that, if a gun is present). I was talking about the threat. Did shanek not threaten to bring a gun to TAM3, solely to intimidate me?

You know, I was reading a thread recently where a new poster was complimenting us on the adult and polite way we debate in this forum. Erm..........

Again, it seems that mere argumentation is not enough for shanek. Not only does he resort to screaming and lying, he has to bring the threat of physical intimidation into the picture.

 

[tim]

I repeat, calm down. PLEASE. It's true that Shanek didn't say he was going to shoot Claus, but he did make the comment about taking a gun to TAM3. Claus has chosen to take that as threat.
Bottom line? Rhetoric. Shanek ain't going to gun Claus down in Las Vegas - apart from everything else it would quite spoil my (expensive) trip. Claus is trying to p*ss Shanek off by his interpretation. Either viewpoint does not demonstrate mature debating behaviour.

 

[CFLarsen]

If he persists in this behavior, yes, I will. This is not the first time a poster has made libelous comments against me on this board. I can deal with just about anything else on my own. But that definitely crosses a line.

What was the intended purpose of you bringing a gun to TAM3?

What did you hope to achieve?

 

[CFLarsen]

I repeat, calm down. PLEASE.

Like I said, I am ice-cold.

It's true that Shanek didn't say he was going to shoot Claus, but he did make the comment about taking a gun to TAM3. Claus has chosen to take that as threat.
Bottom line? Rhetoric.

Sorry, don't agree. Shanek does not strike me as someone who doesn't practice what he preaches.

Shanek ain't going to gun Claus down in Las Vegas - apart from everything else it would quite spoil my (expensive) trip. Claus is trying to p*ss Shanek off by his interpretation.

I am very serious. Make no mistake about that.

Either viewpoint does not demonstrate mature debating behaviour.

While I sincerely appreciate your efforts to calm things down, it still doesn't change the facts.

I need to know whether or not I can attend TAM3 safely, without being intimidated by shanek.

 

[shanek]

What was the intended purpose of you bringing a gun to TAM3?

What did you hope to achieve?

To try and make you understand that someone isn't a threat just because he happens to be wearing a gun.

 

[shanek]

I need to know whether or not I can attend TAM3 safely, without being intimidated by shanek.

As Nevada is a right-to-carry state, and you obviously consider someone just wearing a gun to be "intimidating," then you do not know whether you can attend TAM3 without being "intimidated" regardless of whether I wear a gun or not, because you won't know how many other people will be, too.

 

[CFLarsen]

As Nevada is a right-to-carry state, and you obviously consider someone just wearing a gun to be "intimidating," then you do not know whether you can attend TAM3 without being "intimidated" regardless of whether I wear a gun or not, because you won't know how many other people will be, too.

I wasn't talking about other people. I was talking about you.

Will you be bringing a gun to TAM3, yes or no?

 

[CFLarsen]

To try and make you understand that someone isn't a threat just because he happens to be wearing a gun.

So you were trying to put me at ease, by pissing me off?

 

[tim]

OK children, please yourselves. If you wanna kill each other by talking yourselves to death, go to it!
I'm off to bed.

 

[shanek]

Will you be bringing a gun to TAM3, yes or no?

I don't know. Probably not. But you tempt me...you tempt me.

 

[shanek]

So you were trying to put me at ease, by pissing me off?

I was wanting to p!ss you off by shaking your world-view which says that anyone who merely carries a gun is automatically a threat. You were the one, after all, who said he would KILL anyone on a plane who was merely wearing a gun.

 

[CFLarsen]

I don't know. Probably not. But you tempt me...you tempt me.

I need an unequivocal answer. Yes or no, will you bring a gun to TAM3?

 

[CFLarsen]

I was wanting to p!ss you off by shaking your world-view which says that anyone who merely carries a gun is automatically a threat. You were the one, after all, who said he would KILL anyone on a plane who was merely wearing a gun.

On a plane, yes. At TAM3, we are not on a plane. It is an entirely different situation, and you know it.

Will you bring a gun to TAM3, yes or no?

 

[shanek]

I need an unequivocal answer.

And I need a million dollars. But it's an imperfect universe...