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Michael Shermer vs. "alternative history" Hancock and Crandall

King of the Americas said:
BECAUSE YOU ARE USING POOP-POOR IMAGES!
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Nah.

You just don't like the fact that you have been shown that your "plow line" theory is nothing more than lines created from image placement.

Why do the lines in my image match the "plow lines" of your image?
 
King of the Americas said:
WHY don't your lines appear across this whole image???

HMMMMM???
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Wow! The folks who "plowed" the land are pretty damn good! They went right through the mountains here! I even see that they "plowed" the words "2017 Google" into that area. Just an amazing accomplishment for that time don't you think? I wonder what font they used...

:rolleyes:

 
Gamolon said:
Wow! The folks who "plowed" the land are pretty damn good! They went right through the mountains here! I even see that they "plowed" the words "2017 Google" into that area. Just an amazing accomplishment for that time don't you think? I wonder what font they used...

:rolleyes:

[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/thum_134095a21799181ca3.png[/qimg]
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Try this...

Zoom out, use the line feature to draw these "plow marks" over as wide an area as you can. After you have a series of parallel lines, zoom back in and watch fences, tree lines, and clearly distinguishing features emerge along the lines you've drawn. To see them more clearly, just click the lines back off.

These lines are REAL.
 

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Gamolon said:
Wow! The folks who "plowed" the land are pretty damn good! They went right through the mountains here! I even see that they "plowed" the words "2017 Google" into that area. Just an amazing accomplishment for that time don't you think? I wonder what font they used...

:rolleyes:

[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/thum_134095a21799181ca3.png[/qimg]
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Note that the Google Earth logo overlaps these lines, and is not parallel or perpendicular to them...odd, no?
 
Gamolon said:
Nah.

You just don't like the fact that you have been shown that your "plow line" theory is nothing more than lines created from image placement.

Why do the lines in my image match the "plow lines" of your image?
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R i g h t...

That's why they disappear over river basins...because Google Earth magically replaced all THAT data!!
 
King of the Americas said:
R i g h t...

That's why they disappear over river basins...because Google Earth magically replaced all THAT data!!
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:rolleyes:

So let me get this straight.

I showed you a photo MATCHING your "plow lines" which were created by mosaic type layouts when images were placed and even showed you a link explaining why they occured and your argument that I'm worng is that those lines, "disappear at the rivers"?

Why did the folks that "plowed" go across the mountains?
 
Gamolon said:
:rolleyes:

So let me get this straight.

I showed you a photo MATCHING your "plow lines" which were created by mosaic type layouts when images were placed and even showed you a link explaining why they occured and your argument that I'm worng is that those lines, "disappear at the rivers"?
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Yes. Do you have an answer, AND have you followed my instructions and seen the results for yourself?
 
King of the Americas said:
R i g h t...

That's why they disappear over river basins...because Google Earth magically replaced all THAT data!!
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So this...
In many locations you will notice narrow stripes in the imagery. This is because of a faulty part on the Landsat 7 satellite. Learn more about it in this post.

The mosaics are created by trying to select imagery from throughout a given year then selecting cloud and snow free pixels where possible. However, there are a few locations on earth that are almost always cloudy, a problem we discussed in this post.
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..explains the lines seen in this photo...


...from this link...
https://www.gearthblog.com/blog/archives/2016/11/new-landsat-sentinel-2-data-google-earth.html

...which match the lines in angle, size, and distance apart that you show in this photo...


...and also show up in the mountains...


...is a lie? Google is covering up the fact that those are "plow lines"?
 
King of the Americas said:
Yes. Do you have an answer, AND have you followed my instructions and seen the results for yourself?
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You haven't answered my question.

Why do the lines I provided match your lines? Why are your lines "plow lines" and mine are explained as being image artifacts due to image placement? Why are they different?
 
Gamolon said:
You haven't answered my question.

Why do the lines I provided match your lines? Why are your lines "plow lines" and mine are explained as being image artifacts due to image placement? Why are they different?
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Because image replacement does NOT explain the disappearance of these lines over river basins, nor why fences, walls, and other borders emerge when you draw these lines, then zoom in...

I am providing you evidence, and you are refusing to address it.

Why?
 
Gamolon said:
So this...


..explains the lines seen in this photo...
[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/thum_134095a21688963465.jpg[/qimg]

...from this link...
https://www.gearthblog.com/blog/archives/2016/11/new-landsat-sentinel-2-data-google-earth.html

...which match the lines in angle, size, and distance apart that you show in this photo...
[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/thum_134095a202c723b231.jpg[/qimg]

...and also show up in the mountains...
[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/thum_134095a21799181ca3.png[/qimg]

...is a lie? Google is covering up the fact that those are "plow lines"?
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Maybe, but I think it is more likely, that they 'think' this is what's happening when they interlace the images.

If you follow my test, you'll see for yourself these are real terrestrial features.
 
His my problem with this and the other thread.

Screen shots of google earth are just not compelling evidence of anything. Dimensioning stuff from google is in no way accurate. There is no way to tell how old the features in question are. Etc.

This is why I think KOTA is a troll. The reasons his "evidence" isn't compelling are obvious. Its an extraordinary claim without even banal evidence let alone extraordinary.

To give KOTA a chance to correct any misconceptions. The claim as I understand it:
There are a lot of rectalinear fields visible on google earth and this is evidence of a lost global civilization. Along with some other features visible on google earth.
 
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