Michael Moore newsletter 12/20

[Zero]

And some are like Zero who want to get in get the bennies and get out.

What bennies? The 11 pieces of metal in my leg?!?LOL, don't presume to judge me or my service, I served honorably, which is more than we can say about alot of folks.

Besides that little bit, I can mostly agree with your post, but nevertheless it is important to hear more than one viewpoint, and certainly it is never a bad thing to know what people who disagree with you are thinking.

 

[Troll]

What bennies? The 11 pieces of metal in my leg?!?LOL, don't presume to judge me or my service, I served honorably, which is more than we can say about alot of folks.

Besides that little bit, I can mostly agree with your post, but nevertheless it is important to hear more than one viewpoint, and certainly it is never a bad thing to know what people who disagree with you are thinking.

And how did you get the metal in your leg? Was it a factor in your discharge? Did you take the GI Bill? Did you intend to stay in longer than one enlistment? Other than a Good Conduct medal, what others did you earn?

 

[Zero]

And how did you get the metal in your leg? Was it a factor in your discharge? Did you take the GI Bill? Did you intend to stay in longer than one enlistment? Other than a Good Conduct medal, what others did you earn?

Dude, you missed my NAM...and I really don't think this thread should be about my military service. If it is, I'd rather talk about this nation's fine strip clubs, and how they treat our troops...

 

[Luke T.]

What bennies? The 11 pieces of metal in my leg?!?LOL, don't presume to judge me or my service, I served honorably, which is more than we can say about alot of folks.

Besides that little bit, I can mostly agree with your post, but nevertheless it is important to hear more than one viewpoint, and certainly it is never a bad thing to know what people who disagree with you are thinking.

I agree with the absolute necessity to hear an alternative viewpoint, and I appreciate everything you have to say. I think the disagreement here is with Mr. Moore and his well-established pattern of deception. These letters just seem to be another one in a series of deceptions. Sure, he got letters from unhappy military men, but they in no way represent anything more than a tiny fraction of the military.

I do not doubt your military service or your patriotism.

As for the strip clubs, just remember, there's no sex in the champagne room!!!

 

[rikzilla]

In other words, you DO want to see my medals?!?

No,

I want you to tell me what your "artillery" MOS was. Then you could give your last two duty stations...you know, company/battalion APO and so on....(Surely you remember??)
Then you could tell us about the last two training events you participated in prior to ETS...along with PCS and ETS dates (if you happen to have any idea what those are)

-z

 

[Luke T.]

No,

I want you to tell me what your "artillery" MOS was. Then you could give your last two duty stations...you know, company/battalion APO and so on....(Surely you remember??)
Then you could tell us about the last two training events you participated in prior to ETS...along with PCS and ETS dates (if you happen to have any idea what those are)

-z

I don't know when Zero got out, but I've only been retired for three years, and already I can't remember all of my NEC numbers. I can remember all of my duty stations and PCS dates and so on, though.

 

[rikzilla]

Back on topic....

The only troops that are ever going to write a letter to such a person as MM will usually have negative things to say about Bush and the military mission in Iraq. Even if he got letters telling him what a piece of crap he is I doubt he'd share those with us. Therefore Shemp's posting of this nonsense is merely another episode of data mining.

-z

(BTW,...I don't believe Zero. If he has "11 pieces of metal" in his leg, then how did that happen? Sounds like it would be a great story?? Also, one would think he'd have listed the purple heart among his few medals.)

 

[rikzilla]

I don't know when Zero got out, but I've only been retired for three years, and already I can't remember all of my NEC numbers. I can remember all of my duty stations and PCS dates and so on, though.

I ETS'd on July 14th 1981...and I still remember both my primary and secondary MOS nbrs. Zeros a poseur...trust me. My S detector is buzzing.

-z

 

[Ralph]

I ETS'd on July 14th 1981...and I still remember both my primary and secondary MOS nbrs. Zeros a poseur...trust me. My S detector is buzzing.

-z

Speaking of "S" detectors going off....in another thread Zero argues that a non US - UN military force could've kicked the living crap out of the Iraquis.

He then goes on to argue AGAINST the US having command of an invasion force..and then goes on to imply that the US must have "less than noble goals for wanting to control the invasion points".


Does this sound like a US marine talking????????

Would a marine going into a well defended urban environment---defended with dug in troops, tanks, and possibly even nerve gas.....argue that rather than be under the command of his own officers.......he'd prefer a motley crew of unknowns--some of whom may not even speak his language-----simply because it's the PC thing to do??????


I think the majority of US troops recognize MM for what he is........an over-fed publicity whore who's doing them far more harm then good.

I think HE should visit the troops over there. I wonder what kind of reception he'd get.

 

[Zero]

No,

I want you to tell me what your "artillery" MOS was. Then you could give your last two duty stations...you know, company/battalion APO and so on....(Surely you remember??)
Then you could tell us about the last two training events you participated in prior to ETS...along with PCS and ETS dates (if you happen to have any idea what those are)

-z

Would you like my SSN and my credit card numbers too?!? LOL


BTW, in arty, the unit is 'battery', not 'company'.

 

[Zero]

(BTW,...I don't believe Zero. If he has "11 pieces of metal" in his leg, then how did that happen? Sounds like it would be a great story?? Also, one would think he'd have listed the purple heart among his few medals.)

Actually, it isn't any sort of exciting story at all...we were on the OP just off Sicily drop zone at Ft. Bragg, and while we were packing out I got my foot caught in some gear and broke my leg in two places...

Now, anyone who served with me will know exactly who I am, and if I were lying, wouldn't I have a better story than that?

 

[Jocko]

Actually, it isn't any sort of exciting story at all...we were on the OP just off Sicily drop zone at Ft. Bragg, and while we were packing out I got my foot caught in some gear and broke my leg in two places...

So surgical pins, not shrapnel as one would be led to believe by your generalized use of "metal." True to form so far.

By the way, there would be no such need for 11 reconstructive pins for a compound fracture unless the leg was shattered. As a "veteran" of multiple knee operations, the pins story is even more outlandish than the idea of shrapnel.

But in any event, you never served during combat operations? Funny, but several who have - look to Rik and Luke for examples - seem to disagree with your assessment of the average soldier's opinions.

Now, anyone who served with me will know exactly who I am, and if I were lying, wouldn't I have a better story than that?

Unless this was a poor attempt at a double bluff, which I believe it is. Perhaps you could offer a reference. Is your old scoutmaster available?

 

[Mr Manifesto]

So surgical pins, not shrapnel as one would be led to believe by your generalized use of "metal." True to form so far.

By the way, there would be no such need for 11 reconstructive pins for a compound fracture unless the leg was shattered. As a "veteran" of multiple knee operations, the pins story is even more outlandish than the idea of shrapnel.

But in any event, you never served during combat operations? Funny, but several who have - look to Rik and Luke for examples - seem to disagree with your assessment of the average soldier's opinions.



Unless this was a poor attempt at a double bluff, which I believe it is. Perhaps you could offer a reference. Is your old scoutmaster available?

What do you do for a living, Jocko?

 

[Jocko]

What do you do for a living, Jocko?

Relevance? Since I'm long out of college and not hip to the current political trend du jour, I doubt we have much to discuss conversationally.

 

[Mr Manifesto]

Relevance? Since I'm long out of college and not hip to the current political trend du jour, I doubt we have much to discuss conversationally.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks. What college are you going to? What're you studying?

 

[Jocko]

The lady doth protest too much, methinks. What college are you going to? What're you studying?

I know you're a slow study when it comes to direct answers to direct questions - most of your political stripe are - but let me summarize.

Not a lady.
Not a college student, but completed college many years ago. You may have been tipped off to this fact when I mentioned I was years beyond college (a place you can only dream of).
I studied English Literature, Creative Writing, Latin and Theatre. I took my degree in Lit/Writing.
I'm old enough to remember what a washout Carter was.

And one thing I never, never do is protest too much. I leave that to the kiddies in the classroom, who are unencumbered by such distractions as... oh, say, reality.

Again, please explain what relevance this could possibly have? I'm afraid I'm not in the market for a new web pal.

 

[Mr Manifesto]

I know you're a slow study when it comes to direct answers to direct questions - most of your political stripe are - but let me summarize.

Not a lady.
Not a college student, but completed college many years ago. You may have been tipped off to this fact when I mentioned I was years beyond college (a place you can only dream of).
I studied English Literature, Creative Writing, Latin and Theatre. I took my degree in Lit/Writing.
I'm old enough to remember what a washout Carter was.

And one thing I never, never do is protest too much. I leave that to the kiddies in the classroom, who are unencumbered by such distractions as... oh, say, reality.

Again, please explain what relevance this could possibly have? I'm afraid I'm not in the market for a new web pal.

Wow, another n00b pretending to be a "Carter era" vet. Everything you know about Carter, you got off a moderate right-wing web site. Unless you can tell us what some of your essays were titled with a brief synopsis?

 

[Jocko]

Wow, another n00b pretending to be a "Carter era" vet. Everything you know about Carter, you got off a moderate right-wing web site. Unless you can tell us what some of your essays were titled with a brief synopsis?

Your choice of "n00b" perfectly demonstrates why someone like me has no personal interest in someone like you. And if you're going to try to goad me into giving up something, you're going to have to be a little less transparent, son.

Amazing, how you seem to know everything about me. Never fear, I thought I knew everything when I was your age too. The real world will cure you of that soon enough.

Edited to add: A quick look confirms that I've been here for two years, as opposed to your 9 months. While you may have racked up a billion posts since then, you have yet to make a single point.... n00b.

 

[The Fool]

Again, please explain what relevance this could possibly have? I'm afraid I'm not in the market for a new web pal.

well jocko old son...you are typing in English so your English qualifications (if they are true) are relevant..... I personally don't see how any opinion you could have that is typed in english can be taken seriously when there is so much doubt about your college experience...

Also I doubt If rik has ever been a Major General....oops, hang on, he has never claimed that, sorry rik.

Luke may have been in the Navy and I may be the queen of Sheeba. Shemp is definitely an Ex CIA agent and probably trans-sexual. Manifesto is actually 5 years old and has to sit on His sisters Knee to reach the keyboard........

Have I missed anything else as important as Zero's military record??

 

[Jocko]

Have I missed anything else as important as Zero's military record??

When you claim it as the basis for an almost clairvoyant ability to judge the mindset of the average soldier, then yes, it is relevant, particularly when it is stacked against so many contrary (and frankly, more credible) assessments.

Why would you feel so threatened by that? I know Mr. M is simply trolling for trouble - so sue me if I make him work for it.