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Michael Flynn charged

Regnad Kcin said:
Please oh please oh please. - Mike Pence
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I dunno, Sessions and Pence were almost certainly knowledgeable about what was going on. There has been evidence to that effect such as Yates' early warning about Flynn which Pence had to know about, and Sessions' 27 or so "I don't recall"s.

I wonder if the latest flap about Tillerson isn't related to all this. Tillerson and Putin are buddies and wanted those drilling in the Arctic restrictions lifted.
 
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Regnad Kcin said:
Please oh please oh please. - Mike Pence
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Posted 2017-01-23 (Three days after inauguration!)
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Trebuchet said:
I wouldn't be so sure that Pence isn't also a target. President Ryan, anyone?
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I think I'd be rather OK with that.
 
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Loss Leader said:
Um, what? Every single analyst I've seen so far has agreed that Mueller cut Flynn a deal to get indictable information on a larger player.

The point wasn't that one FOX commenter said so. The point was that even FOX commenters agree - that's how obvious it all is.





The judge didn't do that. He stressed that cooperation with prosecutors would be an important mitigating factor in sentencing. How is any of that a legal misstep?
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I was actually referring to the big breaking news headline I posted earlier about Flynn already agreeing to help prosecute another person.

There is apparently no such agreement.
 
I am kind of old lived through Watergate. My guess is this is following the same path.
 
Mooseman said:
I am kind of old lived through Watergate. My guess is this is following the same path.
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The endgame will be very different. Nixon - sweating, lying, paranoiac Nixon - still had the self-respect to resign. Trump will need to be dragged out, kicking and screaming and burning it all down behind him.
 
LTC8K6 said:
I was actually referring to the big breaking news headline I posted earlier about Flynn already agreeing to help prosecute another person.

There is apparently no such agreement.
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Flynn himself said that he was cooperating with the prosecution. I'm not sure how much more apparent it could get.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
It was their job to present the case to the DoJ but they weren't ready, then Trump fired Comey and Mueller took over the investigation.
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I was just pointing out that the FBI not doing something that was outside of their purview is not an indication of anything.
 
Beelzebuddy said:
The endgame will be very different. Nixon - sweating, lying, paranoiac Nixon - still had the self-respect to resign. Trump will need to be dragged out, kicking and screaming and burning it all down behind him.
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That would be great to watch.
 
LTC8K6 said:
Ummm...okay?
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In other words, the president is still the president until the minute his successor is sworn in, so, no, the president elect cannot discuss future policies with foreign governments since that would interfere with the prerogatives of the current president.
 
TellyKNeasuss said:
In other words, the president is still the president until the minute his successor is sworn in, so, no, the president elect cannot discuss future policies with foreign governments since that would interfere with the prerogatives of the current president.
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But how could the President-elect be expected to understand this when there are pseudonymous folks at obscure Internet fora who don't understand it either?
 
CNN: Flynn pleads guilty.
MSNBC: Flynn pleads guilty.
Fox News: Dogs, Do they even know about Christmas?
 
logger said:
This gives a bit more perspective on this new process crime and how it works.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/454269/michael-flynn-plea-no-breakthrough-russia-investigation
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Lol, that perspective being denial. Mueller had Flynn by the short hairs on the foreign agent stuff and the lying on a sworn security form, at least, just on stuff we already knew. Flynn's pattern of deceptiveness would have been sufficient to prove criminal intent. To get just the one charge, Flynn's lawyers would have told Mueller exactly what he was willing to testify to, and obviously Mueller decided it was worth the trade.
 
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