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[Merged]Me and Mr. Jones

You put your points over with real erudition and grace. What a contrast to the rabid spit of Mr Jones.

BTW there's a "Listen again" feature on the relevant BBC page. If needs be I can record the whole show omce it's up.

BV


Thanks for the kind words.:)
 
Oh, God. Alex is still going on about "firefighters, police, and others on record" saying that they were told to get back from WTC7 because "the government was going to blow it up". I know of two people who have ever, EVER said that they were told that WTC7 was going to be blown up. The first is the email to Dylan Avery from the anonymous "Mike the EMT", which even Dylan accepts was a hoax, and then there's Kevin McPadden, who was a FRIEND of Alex Jones and who was a 9/11 truther who attended events with Alex attacking the U.S. government years before he started making his claim that he heard a countdown prior to the collapse of Building 7, which he only started making after the "Mike the EMT" email. That's two people - one certainly a hoax, the other a friend of Alex who he knows better than anyone is making the claim up. Neither are firefighters or police officers.

I don't have to say it to those here, but what a freaking liar Alex Jones is.
 
Enjoyed the thread, links, and the derails. Best one on CT tonight for me.



Mr. Jones wishes he was someone just a little more funky
 
Video Links

The mp3 file was almost 16 minutes so rather than split it in two for You Tube I made a simple video and put it up on three hosting sites that allow for longer videos. I may work on videos for You Tube tomorrow but if anyone else wants have a go at it for YT be my guest.

(Note: I’ve had content removed in the past from GV which seems stricter than YT about what they’ll host so if the embed doesn’t work use one of the alternate links.)


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=99c_1209519295

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2885662174366086348

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5981u_jonesweickcomplete_news

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I AGREE
 
The mp3 file was almost 16 minutes so rather than split it in two for You Tube I made a simple video and put it up on three hosting sites that allow for longer videos. I may work on videos for You Tube tomorrow but if anyone else wants have a go at it for YT be my guest.

(Note: I’ve had content removed in the past from GV which seems stricter than YT about what they’ll host so if the embed doesn’t work use one of the alternate links.)


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=99c_1209519295

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2885662174366086348

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5981u_jonesweickcomplete_news

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I AGREE

I know that LiveLeak will keep it up forever. Just be prepared for a lot of comment action. I got the first dig. Lots of troothers there.
 
Nice going, Ron.

One reason why I maintain the Truth Movement is dead is that there just isn't anything there that a newcomer would find attractive. Practically all that remains is the hard core of devoted and irrational conspiracy salesmen, and they speak in such specialized and arcane terms that it's not merely a turn-off, but it's almost incomprehensible to anyone who hasn't either ridden with it or fought it for years. There are still a handful of reasonable, more rational members, some of whom post here, but at this point I doubt even they recognize the Truth Movement for what they once thought it was.

There are few more effective weapons in this fight than simple, clear, dispassionate reason. The likes of Alex Jones are powerless against that which they cannot possess, and do not understand.
 
Good job Ron.

OMG AJ, he just keep pluging his web sites! $$$$

AJ said you will go to jail! Funny guy.
 
I went looking on Jones' sites but no report yet of his crushing victory over the leading neo-con shill and Zionist Illuminist known to us as Ron.

However, I did see that he has started up his own MySpace-style social networking community for his deluded followers.

The Infowars Network is an activism and communication tool in the battle against the New World Order.

Fight the power, dude!

By the way, Ron, some good points as always. Good job.
 
Good God... I'm listening to the show right now. Just how many old canards will these people push?

And AJ is just unhinged. It cracked me up how exasperated the host was at AJ's pimping of his website.

The part that disappointed me is how little they let you say, Ron.
 
Oh, God. Alex is still going on about "firefighters, police, and others on record" saying that they were told to get back from WTC7 because "the government was going to blow it up". I know of two people who have ever, EVER said that they were told that WTC7 was going to be blown up. The first is the email to Dylan Avery from the anonymous "Mike the EMT", which even Dylan accepts was a hoax, and then there's Kevin McPadden, who was a FRIEND of Alex Jones and who was a 9/11 truther who attended events with Alex attacking the U.S. government years before he started making his claim that he heard a countdown prior to the collapse of Building 7, which he only started making after the "Mike the EMT" email. That's two people - one certainly a hoax, the other a friend of Alex who he knows better than anyone is making the claim up. Neither are firefighters or police officers.

I don't have to say it to those here, but what a freaking liar Alex Jones is.

Never mind the video displaying the workers in this video stating, coming up to others stating that building is about to blow up.


9/11/2001 radio broadcast: "...I was just standing there, ya know... we were watching the building [WTC 7] actually 'cuz it was on fire... the bottom floors of the building were on fire and... we heard this sound that sounded like a clap of thunder... turned around - we were shocked to see that the building was... well it looked like there was a shockwave ripping through the building and the windows all busted out... it was horrifying... about a second later the bottom floor caved out and the building followed after that... we saw the building crash down all the way to the ground... we were in shock." [197kB wma download]

Lets not forget Craig Bartmer, NYPD police officer,
ARTMER: "I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. I didn't see any reason for that building to fall down the way it did -- and a lot of guys should be saying the same thing. I don't know what the fear is coming out and talking about it? I don't know -- but it's the truth."

[...]

BARTMER: "I walked around it (Building 7). I saw a hole. I didn't see a hole bad enough to knock a building down, though. Yeah there was definitely fire in the building, but I didn't hear any... I didn't hear any creaking, or... I didn't hear any indication that it was going to come down. And all of a sudden the radios exploded and everyone started screaming 'get away, get away, get away from it!'... It was at that moment... I looked up, and it was nothing I would ever imagine seeing in my life. The thing started pealing in on itself... Somebody grabbed my shoulder and I started running, and the ****'s hitting the ground behind me, and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... Yeah it had some damage to it, but nothing like what they're saying... Nothing to account for what we saw... I am shocked at the story we've heard about it to be quite honest."

You also left out Indira Singh as well.

There is nothing better than an uniformed 'debunker'.
 
I missed the show :(

Ron, did you get the chance to bring up the fact that Jones' own website accused the FDNY of being guilty of manslaughter?
 
Swing, can you please keep discussion on topic? There are plenty of threads to go over the things you quote. This thread is about the radio show.
 
Ron,
I thought you did well, although your piece was short. It's also a shame that they couldn't dial you in from the beginning, knowing you couldn't hear it for yourself before being connected.

Mr Jones did himself no favours.
 
Never mind the video displaying the workers in this video stating, coming up to others stating that building is about to blow up.

You're actually using a spliced and edited video by a 9/11 denier as evidence?
 
I'm guessing Jones didn't mention any names when it comes to the FDNY who said "the government was gonna blow up WTC7."

The man takes lying to a whole new level.

Swing Dangler, do you know of any FDNY who said the government was about to blow up WTC7? Or do you just plan on pretending that certain first responders are truthers when they're not?
 
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Swing, can you please keep discussion on topic? There are plenty of threads to go over the things you quote. This thread is about the radio show.

Sure. Is there any reason you didn't offer the same warning to RKOwens4 for his post that I responded to?

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Oh, God. Alex is still going on about "firefighters, police, and others on record" saying that they were told to get back from WTC7 because "the government was going to blow it up". I know of two people who have ever, EVER said that they were told that WTC7 was going to be blown up. The first is the email to Dylan Avery from the anonymous "Mike the EMT", which even Dylan accepts was a hoax, and then there's Kevin McPadden, who was a FRIEND of Alex Jones and who was a 9/11 truther who attended events with Alex attacking the U.S. government years before he started making his claim that he heard a countdown prior to the collapse of Building 7, which he only started making after the "Mike the EMT" email. That's two people - one certainly a hoax, the other a friend of Alex who he knows better than anyone is making the claim up. Neither are firefighters or police officers.

I don't have to say it to those here, but what a freaking liar Alex Jones is.
 
You're actually using a spliced and edited video by a 9/11 denier as evidence?

Nope. CNN news clip. Nice try though.


CHF I'm guessing Jones didn't mention any names when it comes to the FDNY who said "the government was gonna blow up WTC7."

The man takes lying to a whole new level.

Swing Dangler, do you know of any FDNY who said the government was about to blow up WTC7?
I'm not aware of any. Then again, I'm not Alex Jones and it is hard to say if he has spoken to folks who have told him that or where he got that information from.

Or do you just plan on pretending that certain first responders are truthers when they're not?

Huh?:confused:
 

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