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[Merged]Me and Mr. Jones

If there's one thing the last seven days has taught us it is that 'truthers' really, REALLY suck at damage limitation.
 
The host of that show had exactly the same reaction to this 9/11 BS that led to my choice of username. Good to see I'm not alone.
 
Architect said:
You know, everything in my system says I should hate Clarkston but I do actually find him quite amusing. I'd love to hear his views on Jones, given what he already thinks of most Americans (sorry, lads).
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I think Clarkson is funny on Top Gear but it's probably to do with the group dynamics and the daft things they get up to.

Alex Jones on the other hand... I hadn't listened to him before and I never want to again - he's a raving nutter!

Well done to Ron for responding in a calm and reasonable manner.
 
Nicely done, Ron. The contrast between your calm, measured demeanour and Jones' lunatic ranting and raving was terrific. Nobody* could possibly come away from hearing that without realizing what a complete nutter Jones is.

I still marvel at the sheer audacity of the man, though. I mean, how can one man tell so many lies, so glibly and so deliberately, in so little time?**



*except other nutters

** rhetorical question to which I already know the answer - "practice, lots of practice"
 
chillzero said:
Ron,
I thought you did well, although your piece was short. It's also a shame that they couldn't dial you in from the beginning, knowing you couldn't hear it for yourself before being connected.

Mr Jones did himself no favours.
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Although I was flattered to have been invited, I waited by my phone for a half-hour before they got around to calling me. Thanks to the posters on the JREF, I had some idea of what Jones was peddling.
 
Swing Dangler said:
I'm not sure why you guys state she or anyone else implicated the FDNY.
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Really? You're not sure? Could it be that the FDNY determined that the building was likely to collapse and, as you clowns try to pretend, the only way it could have collapsed is by being blown up? That would kind of implicate the fire department, right?


Swing Dangler said:
After all, fire departments don't implode buildings, do they?
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No, fire departments certainly do not implode buildings, the lies of your evil movement to the contrary.


Swing Dangler said:
Based upon that line of logic, everyone who described explosions etc. would be implicating the FDNY, much like the guys in the video I posted to below.
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Anyone talking about explosions was referring to the sounds of things exploding in the fires. Sane people hearing explosions in an office fire do not generally make a connection with controlled demolitions.


Swing Dangler said:
Indira thought the building was being brought down because of its instability.
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That would make her an uninformed dunce, wouldn't it? It takes a lot of time and effort to wire a 47-story building for demolition. There were no explosives in WTC 7.


Swing Dangler said:
Sorry, CHF, I better not continue this discussion. I've been asked to keep it on topic despite other's doing the opposite. Cheers!
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Aw, what a shame! Just when you were going to unveil your smoking gun! Well, we've waited over six years for the fantasy movement to produce a shred of evidence. What's a few more years?
 
tanabear said:
How ironic. The people at infowars don't know who Ronald Wieck is, and Ronald Wieck doesn't even know what is on his own television show.
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Hmmm. The cretins at infowars know very well who Ronald Wieck is, and I have a pretty good idea of what is said on my shows.

The effective use of irony requires a degree of intelligence conspicuously absent in fantasists.
 
Ah, I missed it!

I'm listening to the video. Damn, I'm losing around 1 IQ point per minute when I listen to AJ.

Edit: Please tell me that Jones didn't say "Molten lava steel".
 
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pomeroo said:
Hmmm. The cretins at infowars know very well who Ronald Wieck is, and I have a pretty good idea of what is said on my shows.

The effective use of irony requires a degree of intelligence conspicuously absent in fantasists.
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Well from now on I am calling you "The Mysterious Mr. Wick".

That actually wouldn't be a bad name for a movie...
 
From the InfoWars article:
According to engineering and physics experts, including former Brigham Young professor Steven Jones
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Yes, and according to 99.9% of all other engineering and physics experts, he's wrong. But nice try, Steve.
 
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Pato2747 said:
Edit: Please tell me that Jones didn't say "Molten lava steel".
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Sure did! You could hear it sizzling about for over a couple of weeks on the NASA photos!

Here's WTC 7, erupting furiously somewhere in China, at Jones' statements throughout the show:

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pomeroo said:
Hmmm. The cretins at infowars know very well who Ronald Wieck is, and I have a pretty good idea of what is said on my shows.

The effective use of irony requires a degree of intelligence conspicuously absent in fantasists.
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Mark Roberts drops a bombshell on your show. He claims that he held the molten material that was falling from the 80-82nd floor in his hands after it cooled. Yet this is not even mentioned in the NIST FAQ when it discusses this molten flow. Why not?

Regarding the show, you mention the same lame argument regarding the collapse of WTC7, "The 9/11 fantasy movement has not come close to fitting the collapse of WTC 7 into any sort of coherent theory. Why would your imaginary conspiracy bring down an obscure building seven hours after the jihadist attacks?"

In what way was WTC7 an obscure building? It housed offices for the CIA, US Secret Service, and the Office of Emergency Management.
 
tanabear said:
Mark Roberts drops a bombshell on your show. He claims that he held the molten material that was falling from the 80-82nd floor in his hands after it cooled. Yet this is not even mentioned in the NIST FAQ when it discusses this molten flow. Why not?
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I doubt NIST are particularly interested in Mark Roberts, to be honest. Why would they be?
 
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