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[Merged]Atheism is a really bogus philosophy

Huh? I know there is a lot of chatter but fls and I are discussing atheism with you.

Wait......I thought the topic was, "TOTO".......

Atheism is WAY to simple........let's get it on with Studio Bands.

TOTO was the best........well the dudes that backed up "Steely Dan" were fine in their own right. (even though I didn't ever get paid union)
 
To me, atheism is not a philosophy. It is what's left when your gods fall down and shatter on the floor after you realize that they are made of wood, clay, and bronze. It is a reality you find yourself in until that day that you die, or a new god appears and is made of much better stuff than your kind can fashion with their hands.
Philosophies are mottos, creeds, and ideas you ascribe to. Atheism is just the knowledge that you have created your gods, and are still alone.
A philosophy would begin there, but answer the question "Ok, so I'm alone, now what do I do?" which could be humanism, nihilism or something which encompasses your intent to deal with the world you live in in a constructive way.
 
:D In my opinion, atheism is a bogus philosophy, at least for all practical purposes. Maybe it's just a crappy word. Sure, I can understand someone wanting to call their self an atheist to avoid being associated with some organized religion, which I believe are also bogus as Hell.

However, to suggest you do not believe in an intelligence and power which dramatically transcends that of mankind is, to me, ludicrous. Maybe this intelligence and power is really called TOTO or something else. However, to deny that it exists is absolutely ridiculous. Why ridiculous?

To deny the existence of an intelligence which is both wiser and more powerful than man means you must believe that ORDER DOES NOT REQUIRE INTELLIGENT DIRECTION. The FACT is, this is impossible!

There are numerous examples of incredibly sophisticated and complex orderliness which are beyond the capabilities of man to produce. An eagle, for example, can do things man simply can not replicate, regardless of the nature of man's efforts. Plus, the eagle can reproduce.

The EARTH, itself, is traveling through space at 18.51 miles per second or 66,636 mph, constantly, on its annual orbit around the Sun which it completes once every 365.2422 days, precisely. This mechanical process is far more durable and precise than any watch or clock man has ever been able to make.

Therefore, call it God, TOTO, or whatever you like..but it "is" here. To deny it is simply insanity. Therefore, you atheists need to be more specific or people will just think you're NUTS!!!!!

What the hell? Lousy punks, always leaving those flaming bags of poop at the front door before running away!



Anyway, to quote Sam Harris again, “Atheism” is a term that should not even exist. Atheism is nothing more than the noises reasonable people make when in the presence of religious dogma.
 
Wrong, the length of a day has changed dramatically over the millenia. Back in the Paleozoic era, a day was only 21 hours. Not very precise now, is it?

Note, I may be wrong on the exact dates, but I do know that a day is getting longer if you assume an hour is a consistent unit of time.

And isn't the moon moving further and further away from the earth?

An eagle, for example, can do things man simply can not replicate, regardless of the nature of man's efforts. Plus, the eagle can reproduce.

A man, for example, can do things eagles simply cannot replicate, regardless of the nature of the eagle's efforts. Ever see an eagle launch a Saturn rocket, or write a book, or compose a symphony, or discover a vaccine for polio? Plus, the man can reproduce.
 
My in-laws refer to the toilet as a "toto". When I asked why, they said, "It's the name of Dorothy's dog in the Wizard of Oz."

Now I have another reason to associate "toto" with absurdity.
 
My in-laws refer to the toilet as a "toto". When I asked why, they said, "It's the name of Dorothy's dog in the Wizard of Oz."

Now I have another reason to associate "toto" with absurdity.


Your in-laws like to pretend they are relieving themselves on a dog?

That seems a little strange. ;)
 
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:D In my opinion, atheism is a bogus philosophy, at least for all practical purposes. Maybe it's just a crappy word. Sure, I can understand someone wanting to call their self an atheist to avoid being associated with some organized religion, which I believe are also bogus as Hell.

However, to suggest you do not believe in an intelligence and power which dramatically transcends that of mankind is, to me, ludicrous. Maybe this intelligence and power is really called TOTO or something else. However, to deny that it exists is absolutely ridiculous. Why ridiculous?

To deny the existence of an intelligence which is both wiser and more powerful than man means you must believe that ORDER DOES NOT REQUIRE INTELLIGENT DIRECTION. The FACT is, this is impossible!

There are numerous examples of incredibly sophisticated and complex orderliness which are beyond the capabilities of man to produce. An eagle, for example, can do things man simply can not replicate, regardless of the nature of man's efforts. Plus, the eagle can reproduce.

The EARTH, itself, is traveling through space at 18.51 miles per second or 66,636 mph, constantly, on its annual orbit around the Sun which it completes once every 365.2422 days, precisely. This mechanical process is far more durable and precise than any watch or clock man has ever been able to make.

Therefore, call it God, TOTO, or whatever you like..but it "is" here. To deny it is simply insanity. Therefore, you atheists need to be more specific or people will just think you're NUTS!!!!!


Well, this will be up there with Lifegazer i am sure.

So the earth's orbit varies doesn't it?
 
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You are ignorable on first contact.
 
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To deny the existence of an intelligence which is both wiser and more powerful than man means you must believe that ORDER DOES NOT REQUIRE INTELLIGENT DIRECTION. The FACT is, this is impossible!
There is an intelligence which is both wiser and more powerful than man.

It is called woman.
 
hmmm...

Actually, I was just suggesting that eventually the earth will be without the "lesser light to rule the night."
Actually, it won't, at least not until the Sun starts expanding. It's the tidal bulge of the Earth that is pulling the Moon into a higher orbit by increasing it's orbital velocity. Once the Earth becomes tidally locked to the Moon (as the Moon is currently tidally locked to the Earth), the Moon will stop moving into higher orbits, and will remain at a stable, relatively fixed distance from the Earth.

Of course, then one might argue that half the Earth will be without that "lesser light", and half the Earth will be able to see it all the time. Either way, the Moon won't leave Earth orbit until the Solar System starts dying.

As for how bogus Atheism is, well, that's totally different. Personally, I like more evidence than a book and some fervent people. Give me an experiment I can do, or something.
 

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