Mel Gibson 's racist rant

applecorped said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...-leaves-States-selling-mansion-cut-price.html

"He has told friends that he will move back to Australia - where he grew up after moving from America when he was 12 - with his ex-wife Robyn, who still supports him.

‘Robyn has never seen a violent side to him.

‘She has persuaded him that he needs to get away from Hollywood and find peace on his ranch and she will go with him along with some of the children."

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"Hi!

" Um ... Dad?

"Look, are you using my old room for anything right now?"

"..."

"Um ... no.

"No. Not really. No reason in particular for asking. Just curious."
 
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Bill Thompson said:
I have heard bipolar people throw the N word arond when they are having a manic episode and then when they are well they don't remember it. Someone being manic is a lot like when someone is on speed. I know. It is a family member I am talking about. When they are well, they are sweet, smart and kind and, of course, not racist.

Since Mel Gibson was panting and out of breath on the phone. I suspect he was manic and the phone conversation was contrived and the girlfriend is a the real monster in this story. She is taking advantage of him. She is no loving partner. And, oddly enough, perhaps Mel's rage is justified.
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:eye-poppi
 
Maybe he could remake the Jesus movie, except he'd be on the cross, getting whipped by Jews, blacks, old girlfriends and such. No stuntmen. Real blood.

He's sitting on a goldmine of redemption comeback.
 
quarky said:
Maybe he could remake the Jesus movie, except he'd be on the cross, getting whipped by Jews, blacks, old girlfriends and such. No stuntmen. Real blood.

He's sitting on a goldmine of redemption comeback.
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I wonder if that's why the gospels are so inconsistent: they had to be pieced together from trial leaks (jesus does come across as pretty bipolar).
 
And this was in People online

Will the leaked tapes purportedly of Mel and Oksana be admissible in court?
"In general, it's illegal to tape someone without their knowledge but it's sometimes allowed in domestic violence situations," says L.A. criminal defense attorney Steve Sitkoff. "But the law in that regard isn't clear cut; there's lots of gray area. If the tapes are deemed illegal, they won't exist to a jury. The motive of the taping appears suspect; Oksana is extremely calm and appears to be provoking him. And if Mel was under the influence while making his threats, that would make it even harder to prove criminal intent."

Are the tapes authentic? Could there have been parts edited out?
"I wouldn't be surprised at all if the tapes were altered in some way, but that doesn't mean they aren't authentic," says Dallas-based forensic tape analyst Herbert Joe. "It's all up to the judge to determine the [overall] trustworthiness of the tapes on the whole."
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Bill Thompson said:
What is the public opinion?
Is it for or against Mel?
If it is against Mel, it says alot for the stupidity of public opinon and our rush to judgement.
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Yeah how stupid of us to call a person who admits to breaking his significant other's teeth a violent douche.

How stupid of us to have a lowered opinion of him after threatening to kill the mother of his child.

Your attempt to stir the pot is not working.
 
applecorped said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...-leaves-States-selling-mansion-cut-price.html

"He has told friends that he will move back to Australia - where he grew up after moving from America when he was 12 - with his ex-wife Robyn, who still supports him.

‘Robyn has never seen a violent side to him.

‘She has persuaded him that he needs to get away from Hollywood and find peace on his ranch and she will go with him along with some of the children."



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Sounds like the plot for one of Gibson's early directorial efforts, The Man Without A Face. Misunderstood man with mysterious past and rumors of sexual misconduct retreats to solitary life until young boy reawakens his passions.
 
grunion said:
Sounds like the plot for one of Gibson's early directorial efforts, The Man Without A Face. Misunderstood man with mysterious past and rumors of sexual misconduct retreats to solitary life until young boy reawakens his passions.
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Uh, a young boy reawakens the passions of a man with a mysterious past of rumored sexual misconduct? If that's the sort of movie he makes, maybe Australia won't let him back in.
 
applecorped said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...-leaves-States-selling-mansion-cut-price.html

"He has told friends that he will move back to Australia - where he grew up after moving from America when he was 12 - with his ex-wife Robyn, who still supports him.

‘Robyn has never seen a violent side to him.

‘She has persuaded him that he needs to get away from Hollywood and find peace on his ranch and she will go with him along with some of the children."



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Something about that does not make sense.

" My husband has never been violent, but he needs a break from hollywood because......?"

The real story is she probably really does love him, and the more he was in hollywood the worse he became. She feels it is hollywood ruining him and wants to remove him.
 
Bill Thompson said:
What is the public opinion?
Is it for or against Mel?
If it is against Mel, it says alot for the stupidity of public opinon and our rush to judgement.
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Who do you think is for Mel? I don't care how he may have been baited or provoked, that show was just awful and unmanly.

I don't think the issue is who is for or against Gibson, but to what degree people are also against Oksana Grigorieva. But however she may have capitalized on Gibson's faults, it doesn't make his behavior any less shameful.
 
applecorped said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...-leaves-States-selling-mansion-cut-price.html

"He has told friends that he will move back to Australia - where he grew up after moving from America when he was 12 - with his ex-wife Robyn, who still supports him.

‘Robyn has never seen a violent side to him.

‘She has persuaded him that he needs to get away from Hollywood and find peace on his ranch and she will go with him along with some of the children."



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Oh I remember back in 1990 after my old boyfriend had beaten me, yet again, and blamed me for causing him to lose his temper: "I'm sorry, but if you hadn't....blah blah blah", I phoned his ex-wife, the woman he was married to for 15 years and asked her if he had ever beaten her. She was quite sure that he had never laid a hand on her ever and was surprised by my question.
There is another thing that my old boyfriend had in common with Mel Gibson, he was also an alcoholic. I understand that a life time of heavy drinking could be the cause of these two guys mental problems because it can cause their brains to actually shrink and their personalities change. My guess is Mel has alcoholic dementia that is causing his rage and not bipolar disorder.

As for Oksana, well it is clearly her fault that she got her teeth broken, she should have dropped the new born baby and protected her face with her hands. Or maybe we could blame the new born baby for getting in the way. Whatever it is we know that it is certainly not Mel's fault.
 
For me, this has nothing to do with celebrity, money or fame. It is unrelated to her motivation, unrelated to who leaked what, when or why. For me this is about the purest form of uglieness, about a man with such an ugly, dark, empty soul that it is evident it has been thinnly shrouded for a long time. The shroud had been slipping, and now it's gone, leaving the world to see the man that was behind the curtain all along.

It remains to be seen if there will be enough forgiveness for Gibson to continue. The very right-wing conservative Baldwin said that he just needs people to love him. In my opinion he doesn't deserve love. But maybe that's just me. Back in the days when there was no media as we have now, Walt Whitman remained loved as a poet, and literature classes in schools were kind towards him, though he was an unabashed pedophile. But we've come a long way. I don't believe Gibson's legacy will be anywhere near as kind.
 
Mycroft said:
Who do you think is for Mel? I don't care how he may have been baited or provoked, that show was just awful and unmanly.

I don't think the issue is who is for or against Gibson, but to what degree people are also against Oksana Grigorieva. But however she may have capitalized on Gibson's faults, it doesn't make his behavior any less shameful.
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You don't have to takes sides, you can think they are both Alpha Hotels, as I do.
Though, from evidence ,Mel is a much bigger Alpha Hotel then Oksana.

BTW Gibson is denying that "Moving Back To Oz" rumors. Good news For Austrialians, who probably don't want him back.
 
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wasapi said:
For me, this has nothing to do with celebrity, money or fame. It is unrelated to her motivation, unrelated to who leaked what, when or why. For me this is about the purest form of uglieness, about a man with such an ugly, dark, empty soul that it is evident it has been thinnly shrouded for a long time. The shroud had been slipping, and now it's gone, leaving the world to see the man that was behind the curtain all along.

It remains to be seen if there will be enough forgiveness for Gibson to continue. The very right-wing conservative Baldwin said that he just needs people to love him. In my opinion he doesn't deserve love. But maybe that's just me. Back in the days when there was no media as we have now, Walt Whitman remained loved as a poet, and literature classes in schools were kind towards him, though he was an unabashed pedophile. But we've come a long way. I don't believe Gibson's legacy will be anywhere near as kind.
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Let's keep politics out of it.
If you want I could come up with a list of Celebs with Left Wing Political views who are not exactly saints....Charlie Sheen comes to mind.
 
I listened to one or two of the tapes, and I came away thinking "that is a man who is dangerously mentally ill."

Before hearing the tapes I assumed that he was just a racist and a thug, but the way he talks, and the strange noises he makes...those aren't even people noises.

He needs psychiatric intervention, and not the BS Hollywood rehab kind, I mean men with a straight jacket and butterfly nets.
 
Can we work Lindsey Lohan into this thread somehow?

I'd heard that Mel dressed her up as Sammy Davis Jr. (black and Jewish), and
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forced Lindsey to preform my way.
(Or is this just some silly rumor?)
 
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According to Lindsay Lohan's twitter page (unconfirmed), it was "Puff, the Magic Dragon".
 
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All I can say is I really picked a bad time to invest in a line of 'Mel Gibson Charm Schools'.
 
Jekyll's Guest said:
I listened to one or two of the tapes, and I came away thinking "that is a man who is dangerously mentally ill."

Before hearing the tapes I assumed that he was just a racist and a thug, but the way he talks, and the strange noises he makes...those aren't even people noises.

He needs psychiatric intervention, and not the BS Hollywood rehab kind, I mean men with a straight jacket and butterfly nets.
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Yeah, it's sad when you think to yourself "Scientology would be a step up for this guy".
 
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