Robin
Penultimate Amazing
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No you are wrong, personal belief in a matter is not relevant in a logical argument.It does if the conclusion of the argument spins on the value of the "if".
Yes, it is. The rules of logic say it is. Go and show what you have just written to one of your lecturers.Which line do you think contains the assumption? Let's take it one line at a time:
"1. A p-zombie has all the physical characteristics of a human being."
No assumption that consciousness is not physical in line 1. It merely states that p-zombies are physically indistinguishable from normal humans.
"2. A p-zombie is not conscious".
No assumption that consciousness is not physical in line 2 either. It merely states that p-zombies are not conscious.
If there are only two lines and it wasn't assumed in line 1 and wasn't assumed in line 2 then it wasn't assumed at all. What is the case is that once you have accepted lines 1 and 2 then there is a potential contradiction with one of the following:
"3a. Consciousness is physical".
"3b. Consciousness is not physical."
If you accept lines 1 and 2 then line 3a is going to cause a contradiction and 3b is not. You appear to think that this is the same as assuming that 3b is true, yes?
Again, set T=the set of all physical characteristics of a human, set T=a p-zombie and a1 is consciousness. So we have:
1. The set S contains all the members of the set T
2. The set S does not contain a1
3. Therefore T does not contain a1
So, using the same logic:
1. The set of p-prime numbers contains all the members of the set of prime numbers
2. The set of p-prime numbers does not contain the number 7
3. Therefore 7 is not a prime number.
The exact same logic and I have just used it to prove that 7 is not a prime number. That is why assuming your conclusion is considered a fallacy. If you allowed that as a valid construction then you could prove anything
Apparently the only way to find a flaw in materialism is to deny that the rules of logic exist.The only valid way to defend materialism is to deny that the word "mind" refers to anything.

