Marines Urinating on Dead Guys?

[Bill Thompson]

At a guess, he considers that there can be no peace between the cultures, and the quicker things escalate to total war the better.

Just at a guess though.

I am sure this goes on in every war. Patton said, if the quote was accurate, that he wanted to kill Nazis and use their bodies to grease the treads of his tanks as they advance to Germany.

Making war nice does not mean it will end quicker, man. I do not understand your logic at all. Historically, the opposite has been true.

 

[Skeptical Greg]

So while British soldiers are discarding centuries of tradition to let their beards grow, so as to gain respect and therefore trust from Afghans, some of our "allies" not only think pissing on the enemy dead is OK, but videoing it for posterity is, as well.

I think we may have to change that to " pretending to piss on the enemy dead " ...

 

[Sledge]

It is a human reaction.

Funny how most soldiers don't seem to have that reaction.

You cannot comdem people for being human.

Why not?

 

[Information Analyst]

I think we may have to change that to " pretending to piss on the enemy dead " ...

I somehow doubt that fine distinction will matter now. How many allied servicemen are in Taliban hands? Anyone want to start laying bets that one, some, or all of them aren't going to now suffer and have it attributed for this?

 

[Bill Thompson]

So while British soldiers are discarding centuries of tradition to let their beards grow, so as to gain respect and therefore trust from Afghans, some of our "allies" not only think pissing on the enemy dead is OK, but videoing it for posterity is, as well.

Taliban. I think some Afgans would piss on the Taliban too.

 

[Bill Thompson]

Funny how most soldiers don't seem to have that reaction.

It reminds me of the book Shogun. Have you read it? There is a passage in there that is similar. It is fiction but based on Japanese history. Have you read it? Do you know the part I am talking about?

"Why not?" What I mean is that it is an understandable reaction and one that you can expect from people who have just won a gun fight to the death.

You know, these men are not there to play a game. They are there because they believe they are protecting themselves, their country, and their families. All emotions are heightened.

We have the luxury sitting in our comfy couches eating our Ben and Jerry's while sitting at our computer with high speed cable internet access on a peaceful sunny day to judge them. We cannot imagine the hightened reality these marines live in and yet we judge them. That is pathetic. That sounds to me like a more pathetic act than pissing on dead Taliban bodies.

 

[Bill Thompson]

I think we may have to change that to " pretending to piss on the enemy dead " ...

You do not see any indication that they are really peeing and you do not even see that they really are (how should I say this) properly exposed to do the act either.

 

[Sledge]

It reminds me of the book Shogun. Have you read it? There is a passage in there that is similar. It is fiction but based on Japanese history. Have you read it? Do you know the part I am talking about?

Your response reminds me of many of your responses from the past. Have you read any? They tend to have nothing to do with the topic at hand. Do you know what I'm talking about?

 

[332nd]

Dead bodies of people out to kill your wife's husband, your kid's father, and your parent's son. It is a human reaction. You cannot comdem people for being human.

Since the Marines are investigating the act with intent to punish those responsible, obviously you can... Of course that would imply that you were correct in it being a normal human reaction, which you aren't.

 

[Bill Thompson]

Marinating?

Anoiting.

Anoiting from Allah's true messengers.

 

[Bill Thompson]

What a cowardly response.

Explain. Elaborate. It is a cowardly response because....?

 

[Jekyll's Guest]

Your response reminds me of many of your responses from the past. Have you read any? They tend to have nothing to do with the topic at hand. Do you know what I'm talking about?

John Rhys-Davis has a beard. The Taliban have beards. I think I see the connection with Shogun.

Didn't Richard Chamberlain have a beard in it too?

The comparison is growing on me.

 

[Bill Thompson]

Your response reminds me of many of your responses from the past. Have you read any? They tend to have nothing to do with the topic at hand. Do you know what I'm talking about?

Did you read the book SHogun? Are you going to carry on a conversation or just act like a jackass?

 

[Bill Thompson]

Since the Marines are investigating the act with intent to punish those responsible, obviously you can.

Argument from authority is a logical fallacy.

I would like you to explain to me why you think it is deplorable, not pass the buck.

 

[Sledge]

John Rhys-Davis has a beard. The Taliban have beards. I think I see the connection with Shogun.

Didn't Richard Chamberlain have a beard in it too?

The comparison is growing on me.

Of course! Richard Chamberlain uses the toilet, therefore we can't expect soldiers to refrain from urinating on dead enemies.

Did you read the book SHogun? Are you going to carry on a conversation or just act like a jackass?

Get to the point, Bill.

 

[Bill Thompson]

John Rhys-Davis has a beard. The Taliban have beards. I think I see the connection with Shogun.

Didn't Richard Chamberlain have a beard in it too?

The comparison is growing on me.

You watched the tv mini series but did not read the book.
I am not suprised.

 

[Bill Thompson]

Of course! Richard Chamberlain uses the toilet, therefore we can't expect soldiers to refrain from urinating on dead enemies.

Get to the point, Bill.

Interesting. You know, Richard Chamberland was not in the book.

I do not think you read much. Is that a correct assumption?

There was an earthquake in the book that almost wiped out an army camp that the Shogun had. Blackthorn and the Shogun survived and they were so overwhelmed with emotion by escaping what seemed to be certain death that the both urinated into the rift in the earth caused by the earth quake.

My point is that these marines faced death directly by these taliban. THeir actions remind me of that passage in the book.

For us to judge them in our civilian worlds is pathetic and intellectually dishonest.

The book is fiction but based on fact. Lots of passages in the book were taken from Japanese history. Even if that passage was completely made up, it was an event that the author at least considered to be likely as well as the readers.

 

[332nd]

Dead bodies of people out to kill your wife's husband, your kid's father, and your parent's son. It is a human reaction. You cannot comdem people for being human.

Explain. Elaborate. It is a cowardly response because....?

You can't back up your statement that it is a normal human response. You simply state that it is. Thus cowardly.

 

[Tiktaalik]

Marinating?

Yeah, I don't mean to make light of it or anything, but when skimming the title I keep reading it as "Murines"...

 

[332nd]

Argument from authority is a logical fallacy.

How is stating a fact an argument from authority?

I would like you to explain to me why you think it is deplorable, not pass the buck.

I already did. You even quoted it.