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Lucianarchy and remote viewing

If I may point out something that has nothing to do with timestamps...

I looked up a bit of info on Ladybrook and found this:

"As with most parts of west Belfast, Ladybrook has been at the epicentre of the Troubles. A peace line separates the estate from parts of neighbouring Suffolk."

Therefore it doesn't really take a psychic to figure out that every now and again there are folks lurking around with explosives hidden under their coats.
 
GMT and WET are separate but identical time zones. Neither has any rules about savings time. Savings time/Summer time as a concept is completely separate from the concept of time zones.

The forum clock is wrong. Maybe it's been set this way so it at least tries to show a time that is consistent what most of us use as our local time, i.e. savings time included.

Sorry, but WET is identical to GMT. Neither changes during the year. What we have here is either a server with the wrong time, or a bad fix applied to save us the trouble of changing our time zone option every 6 months.

When a WET zone country goes into daylight savings time, they move into the WEST zone. It's equivalent to Britain, a GMT zone country, moving into the BST zone during the summer.

I see the last time you quoted me, you conveniently didn't quote this bit (or perhaps the forum won't quote quotes):

WET - Western Europe Time - UTC - Lisbon during winter
WEST - Western Europe Summer Time - UTC+1 hour - Lisbon during summer

David
 
Why wont you take Alienx's remote viewing or davidhorman's lottery tests?

If you don't want to answer fine - just say so. Just quit pretending not to see the question.
 
buki said:


Therefore it doesn't really take a psychic to figure out that every now and again there are folks lurking around with explosives hidden under their coats.

But if I say.... Palestine, would it be more impressive?

I shall demonstrate my ability to do exactly what Luci does.

Iraq.
 
Lucianarchy said:
Martin, what time does it read on the forum now? Is it GMT or GMT+1/BST?
Right now, it's pretty close to BST. Yesterday, it was about halfway between the two. The day before, who knows? That's kind of the point, really.
 
renata said:



Well, maybe there is something to it. Let me test my RV powers.
New York
Trenton
Van Nuys
Houston

While you guys are arguing about the clock, my psychic powers have been confirmed

New York: thudnerstoms knocked out power to about 87,000 customers
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WEATHER/07/22/severe.weather.ap/index.html

Houston: Jackpot! The tourist who smelled smoke in Eiffel tower was from Houston
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,6797534%5E1702,00.html

If that is not enough, American Michael Phelps beat his own world record in the 200 butterfly in Houston
http://www.news24houston.com/content/sports/sports_headlines/default.asp?ArID=11202


Trenton: Lightning storm ignited grass fires in the vicinity
http://newspapers.mywebpal.com/partners/754/public/news476132.html

Van Nuys : 85 year old man crashed car while waiting for driving test (obviously recalling the horrible accident of a week ago when 86 year old man killed 10 in Santa Monica
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_802184.html
 
It's pretty obvious that Lucky just won't concede the FACT that the forum clock is unreliable.

And, Lucky won't even address the FACT that his one word coincidence means nothing to the rational person.
 
Renata think she's pretty good...

...but check me out

I posted yesterday:
After reading this, I had the impression of a gorilla in my mind. I'm not making a prediction, but I can clearly see a gorilla in my mind right now and it feels urgent.

Gorilla

Gorillas
 
Re: Re: Who cares about the clock

Lucianarchy said:


Anyone here in the UK can look at the bottom of the page here and see that it says 'all times are in GMT' and look at their own watch or ring up 'Tim' and see that the forum is not reading base GMT at all it is actually reading BST / GMT+1, / Western European Time. It also confirms the default GMTWET status in the cp settings.

This seems simple enough to confirm. We have plenty of UK posters here. If you place your browser time on default (GMT) and compare it to your houseclocks, watches, etc. Does it show GMT, or the adjusted BST?
 
I fail to see how scientits can be called not open minded or fixed in their ideas. The whole point of scientific approach is to effectifly constantly try and break their current theories about everything.
Yes some theories are hard to budge as they have lots of validating data, but all it takes is one spurious repeateable result to throw a spanner in the works.
Then an explanation is sought - either a totally new theory or a modification - whaterver.

All we ever seem to have is a single item of non reproducable data, thus until the point whereby we have some nice solid data to back all this up then pointing at specific examples (many of which can be explained by normal means) is rediculous really.

So far we have yet to see any real work that does nothing but destroy all of these claims. Every single proffesional study has drawn a blank so far in over a hundred years of trying. Yes you can hang on to your claims but please at least agree to us testing your abilities properly.

Why don't we do a real test of your abilities, so far i think your example to be questionable, even if no foul play was used then i hate to tell you it's totally unimpressive anyway for obvious reasons.

Would you care to perform some repeat tests of your abilities on these boards. Maybe we can come to an agreement about how you can show your powers with as much of the inherant flaws we see here removed, then we can argue over some more significant data other than this very weak case.

Look arguing over a time stamp about a highly unspectacular one word prediction (well it wasnt even a prediction now was it) really is rediculous and we should discard it and do a proper test i feel, this line of discussion is pointless and will get neither "side" anywhere.

AlienX
 
AlienX said:
I fail to see how scientits can be called not open minded or fixed in their ideas.

In most cases, it's a sad attempt by some believer to deflect attention away from them and towards the skeptics.
 
renata said:


While you guys are arguing about the clock, my psychic powers have been confirmed

New York: thudnerstoms knocked out power to about 87,000 customers
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WEATHER/07/22/severe.weather.ap/index.html

Houston: Jackpot! The tourist who smelled smoke in Eiffel tower was from Houston
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,6797534%5E1702,00.html

If that is not enough, American Michael Phelps beat his own world record in the 200 butterfly in Houston
http://www.news24houston.com/content/sports/sports_headlines/default.asp?ArID=11202


Trenton: Lightning storm ignited grass fires in the vicinity
http://newspapers.mywebpal.com/partners/754/public/news476132.html

Van Nuys : 85 year old man crashed car while waiting for driving test (obviously recalling the horrible accident of a week ago when 86 year old man killed 10 in Santa Monica
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_802184.html

I think we all know who the most convincing remote viewer is in this thread. :D
 
Re: Re: Re: Who cares about the clock

mark tidwell said:


This seems simple enough to confirm. We have plenty of UK posters here. If you place your browser time on default (GMT) and compare it to your houseclocks, watches, etc. Does it show GMT, or the adjusted BST?

It shows BST. But you are unlikely to get David or any others who have claimed it is GMT to admit to their mistake. They have the evidence in front of them as they read this, but they don't have the honour or integrity to confirm its status.

The fact is, given their claims of -40min forum clock, even discounting my posting which they contend must have been somehow edited undetected using a sooper seekrit method :rolleyes: , then Corbin posted at 3.55pm, significantly before the Ladybrook terrorist attack took place.

They are now down to claiming 'ladybrook' was a coincidence, yet anyone can do a search for that term and see that newsorthy events like that, which happened in ladybrook shortly after my ladybrook post, in response to tbk taunt on my RV ability, are so remote that such a 'coincidence' would be bloody huge.

I have been accused of using police scanners, using unknown editing techniques, criminal involvement and been told the clock was GMT and should be an hour different. All these suppositions have been shown to clearly false. Yet not one of those claimants has come forward to offer an apology.

The data, and the deception and silence which followed it speaks for itself.
 
mark tidwell said:
Lucianarchy,

If I may ask, how often do you have these precognitive/RVing insights? Are they with any regularity? Are they spontaneous or do you have to prepare yourself in some way? I ask only because it might be helpful in the future for you to record them here for future analysis and discussion.

Hi Mark, sorry I missed your earlier post.

How often? Often daily, but vague and the sort of thing which would not qualify as a lead in this forum, it would just generate ridicule and taunts. However, often I act on these leads in daily life and use them to positive effect. Spontaneous? Difficult to say really, yes, sometimes, like in this case, the information seems to come 'through' me - bolt from the blue so to speak. Usually a compelling seemingly important word or impression of something. These sorts of perceptions seem to be immiment forms of precognition and often occur within the same day. I can and do prepare myself for some work though and use meditation these days, directing my consciousness and visualising in what I see as a 'universal' point in space-time. I would add though, that my experience is that there needs to be a lot of what you might call 'spiritual fitness' and an understanding of free will and responsibility in order to develop the effect. If you think I would "record them here" after the kind of treatment I have experienced here, think again. It is exactly the sort of behaviour which stops many 'psychics' from coming forward, although I would suggest that if anyone is genuinely interested and has experienced an ability to either RV, precognition etc, to do yuor own research and follow the leads to the places which feel right to you. And be prepared to be skeptical of everything you may have been lead to believe before, have the humility to learn again. One thing I can say - like minds attract - have belief in yourself - and you will not go far wrong.
 
davidhorman said:




16:35GMT
-40 minutes because the forum clock is wrong:
15:55GMT
Add an hour for BST:
16:55BST


David, the forum clock defaults account for the +1 BST, you know that now. If you don't, look at the bottom of the page at the forum clock, then look at your wristwatch.

This makes your calculation for Corbins time stamped post to be:

15:55.

The Ladybrook terrorist attack occured at 16:30

Do you have anything to say about this?
 
Lucianarchy said:

You are wrong, and the implications of your building an extraordinary denial are enormous, far, far worse than any 'psychic scam', in fact the wilfull denial and dishonesty being employed here by a few people is exactly the sort of thing which is censoring the true development in the understanding of frontier science. You should be ashamed of yourself. One day, I can assure you, this will come back to haunt you, and you will have to deal with that shame.

Think about that before you sleep, when there is no one else around you to lie to, but yourself.

Wow, such vitriol! You’ve never really forgiven me for your humiliating defeat over the UK Lottery, have you?

Right now the clock is either spot on, or one hour out, depending on how you look at it. The time in Italy (CET) is 11.06, and the time on the forum (GMT+1) is 11.05. According to the GMT site, GMT is actually 9.05, so the "GMT" of the forum is actually BST, as far as I can tell.

This makes no difference, since I’d already assumed that “GMT”, as listed at the bottom of the forum, was actually showing BST, since the clock on my computer says “GMT+1” and then gives the same time as it is locally. However, just now CET is GMT+2, so I guessed that in this forum at least GMT must actually be BST. According to the forum on my computer Lucian’s post was 4.33 GMT+1, really meaning it was 3.33 BST. Add twenty minutes for the slowness I noticed a few days ago. 3.53. Corbin’s was one hour later, which makes it 4.53. Lucian’s right in that my theory may be unlikely and it relies a lot on fortuitous coincidence, and indeed my openness to the idea that you have some psychic power has increased. Not much, but there’s a little room for doubt that wasn’t there before. But at the end of the day one thing remains: c0rbin’s quoting of Lucian’s post is the earliest that we, as true sceptics, can be absolutely sure Lucian’s post contained the word ‘ladybrook’, ie, half an hour after the event.

even I witnessed the 'view' register additions, then there are some very dishonest people here who are keeping quiet about the fact that they viewed this post between my posting and Corbin's reply

If they were to come forward, then yes, that would rule out my theory. Nevertheless, it also shows that you did return to the forum after your initial post. Hmmm.

The fact that you and a few others here are trying to spin this into some extraordinary denial speaks volumes about the personal need you have for RV not to exist.

How tedious. For someone who refuses to debate RV in any length, that’s a laughable statement. For the record I think there is evidence that RV may exist. If you look on the thread begun by sgrenard – I suggest a series of experiments that I consider the strongest in the field. Now, why would I do that if I had a deep seated need to disprove it? I just want to know what’s going on. In your eyes, that makes me a bad person: so be it.

Of course, renata has demonstrated how such results can be gained by chance, which is another compelling argument.
 
Do you have anything to say about this?

The original assumption was that the forum clock was 20 minutes slow - this quote from Ersby confirms that:

Surely the clock being wrong is a factor (it is presently tweny minutes slow).

(and from then on we assumed it was 20 minutes slow at the time of your post)

However (and I'm sure Ersby will confirm this - edit: he has, thanks Ersby!) he was looking at the time as though it was BST, not GMT as it states.

Then I noticed that the forum clock is claiming to be GMT, which means it was (at the time of the discussion) 40 minutes fast. That makes corbin's post... oh, 16:55, exactly the same, because you still have to add an hour to get from GMT to BST.

It really doesn't matter which way you consider it - you can't retroactively change the actual time of corbin's post simply by thinking about the clock differently. I'm sorry if I confused you or anyone else by getting stuck into the semantics of the forum's time reporting.

Do you accept that GMT does not change throughout the year? Do you accept that WET is the same as GMT?

David

PS Well, bugger me with a fishfork - I'm sure the clock was 20 minutes slow 10 minutes ago, now it's right (if we assume it means BST when it says GMT). This server has to be the worst timekeeper on the planet.
 
Why do you post then?, you are ridiculed because your evidence is laughable in most peoples eyes.

Don't get upset about this many new ideas are rideculed at first but through proper testing and some very clever people we get closer to the truth. Yet this stuff has faced 100+ years of ridicule and has still not produced any +ve data???

The only solution is to be tested - come to a site where people demand proper scientific methodology then what do you expect?.

Once we start to get some proper studies producing validated data that is +ve then and only then will you get any respect for your beliefs and that's all it is a belief.. which does not mean it is true.

Look I don't care about time stamps of some irrelevent so called premenition.
You obviously seem very frustrated that we are just not even in the slightest bit impressed, I feel the same but from the other side that you can't see my opinion that it's just meaningless with no validity whatsoever.

Once again we see these so called phychics avoiding any form of testing - Luci simply follows the rest of them in making unsubstantiated claims, holding aloft any example that does not show any flaws in the claim. Scientits have the opposite approach of holding aloft the things which show their theories/beliefs to be false as this is where the intrest lies and more importantly the truth.. well getting that little bit closer anyway.

I know you will never agree to be tested and will either ignore or selectivly answer these posts. I don't think your a total fraud just selective in your evidence and what you answer because you fail to see anything which could mean your wrong.

If you will not be tested they why not cancel your account and stop posting, this i fear is your only real avenue to avoid all the ridicule and taunts until the day you stand up and be counted.

At the end of the day i'm open to you being tested and all the others because no matter how much I think your wrong it's possible that I am. You seem to be the only person here who is 100% convinced they are correct. You will not be tested because this means that you would have to be <100% convinced you are correct, thus you are not open minded at all until you accept the fact that you could be totally wrong. Testing yourself properly would be a good first step, but it's a step you obviously fear to take and feel justified somehow in not taking.

AlienX
 

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