Loose Change - Part IV

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OK I've added my two cents to the History Channel's enquiries log:


Is it true that the History channel are going to air the hopelessly flawed and insulting "Documentary" Loose Change?
I thought the History Channel only broadcast Factual documentaries.
Loose Change contains so many errors and outright lies that I'm surprised The History Channel would have anything to do with it.
Not only have all the claims made by the film makers reguarding 9/11 been totally discredited (see loosechangeguide.com), but the film is also the subject of a legal case in America over the unauthorised use of footage from yhe Naudet brother's documentary about the New York Fire Department's response to 9/11.
I think you would be better off screening Screw Loose Change.
Anyway I hope you take my concerns seriously. It is not the kind of film which should be given any credence by a serious broadcaster such as the History Channel.
Yours sincerely
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I did sign my real name and as it is the same as a high profile Australian TV writer/producer(no relation to me) it may cause a little stir.
 
It is also worth noting that it's not The History Channel Australia. It is The History Channel Australia AND New Zealand. So we'll be getting this garbage here too.

I have sent a quick query email, but will also be writing a letter.

-Andrew
 
On another topic.

Gravy, RealityBites and I are "provacateurs"!

Apparantly, this "bulletin" has been bouncing around ny truther myspace blogs.


NYPD, THE G. : HELMETS, FLAK JACKETS AND MACHINE GUNS CONFRONT NY 911 TRUTH

Aug. 12, 2006

INCIDENT REPORT: SAT CIRCA 2 PM

LARGE POLICE VAN LABELED NYPD PARKS BEHIND 911 TRUTH BANNER
SECOND LARGE UNMARKED VAN WITH BLACKED OUT WINDOWS PARKS BEHIND NYPD VAN (possible video-audio surveillance van)

WHITE OFFICER EARLY TO MID 40S, WITHOUT BADGE , MILITARY LIKE CREW CUT, SUIT, IDENTIFIES HIMSELF TO 911 TRUTH AS PART OF NYPD "INTELLIGENCE"

THEN ASKS IF 911 TRUTH HAS PERMIT FOR BANNER, SAYS BANNER POLES REQUIRE A PERMIT

I TELL HIM THESE GUYS HAVE BEEN HERE FOR YEARS NOW, AND COURTS HAVE ALLOWED PROTESTS.
HE SAYS POLES REQUIRE PERMIT

L. JOINS DISCUSSION , SAYS WOOD POLES NOT PERMITTED, BUT POINTS OUT TO OFFICER THAT POLES ARE CARDBOARD
NYPD INTELLIGENCE SAYS HARD CARDBOARD IS NOT PERMITTED
POLICE OFFICER'S MANNER IS POLITE AT ALL TIMES AND NOT INFLAMMATORY OR THREATENING.
HOWEVER

2-3? BODY GUARDS, TO THIS MOST LIKELY SENIOR OFFICER WHO TRAVELS IN TWO VANS WITH SWAT PERSONNEL,
GET OUT OF VAN.

THESE POLICE SOLDIERS ARE IN BLACK SWAT UNIFORMS , ONE OR TWO HAD LONG BARREL MACHINE GUNS PERHAPS M16, ONE I THINK HAD

SHORT AUTOMATIC WEAPON, PERHAPS GLOCK SWAT WEAPON, NOT SURE ABOUT DETAILS HERE.

THEY SEEMED TO BUILD A DEFENSIVE PERIMETER OF CIRCULAR NATURE AROUND THE SENIOR OFFICER INDICATING A BODY GUARD FUNCTION.

NOTE: UNUSUAL FEATURE OF THIS APPEARANCE WAS THAT THE OFFICERS HAD SHORT METAL HELMETS, NOT SWAT CAPS., HELMETS
THIS MAY BE A NEW TACTIC, PERHAPS INDICATING A CHANGE IN LEVEL OF ALERT. HELMETS ARE REQUIRED FOR COMBAT OPERATIONS NOT FOR FIRING ON LONE GUNMAN OR NORMAL POLICE ACTIONS-COMBAT OPS WITH POSSIBLE SHRAPNEL./GRENADES ?

SOMEWHERE IN THIS PERIOD, FEMALE PROVOCATEUR "ABBY" APPROACHES NYPD INTEL OFFICER AND ASKS HIM TO "DO SOMETHING" ABOUT 911 TRUTH STOPPING HER FROM PUTTING UP SIGNS. BASICALLY ASKING THEM TO ARREST ONE OF US AS PROHIBITING HER "FREE SPEECH"

I ASK OFFICER IF ITS PERMITTED FOR THEM TO PUT SIGNS NEXT TO 911 SIGNS, SHOULD THEY NOT BE IN A DIFFERENT PLACE WITH THEIR OWN MESSAGE

OFFICER DOES NOT ASK A QUESTION HERE. HE STATES THAT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO MINGLE IN 911 PROTEST SINCE WE DO NOT HAVE A PERMIT.

NOTE-THIS INDICATES NYPD HAS AWARENESS OF THIS PRACTICE OF PROVOCATEURS AT GROUND ZERO!

I ASK IF HE WORKS FOR FORMER CIA OFFICER IN CHARGE OF NYPD INTELLIGENCE , THE ONE THAT WAS IN BUILDING 7 ON 9-11,
OFFICER STUTTERS HERE AND THEN SAYS YES.
911 PUTS BANNER DOWN .

NOTE THIS APPEARANCE BY NYPD IS ATYPICAL IN THAT 1) THEY APPROACH 911 TRUTH, 2) THEY IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AS "INTELLIGENCE" AND 3) AS NOTED APPEARANCE OF HELMETED BODYGUARDS, AND 4) THEIR APPEARANCE COMES AFTER INITIATION OF PROVOCATEURS AT GZ, WHICH THEY HAVE APPARENTLY KNOWLEDGE OF .

ALSO WHY DID OFFICER IDENTIFY HIMSELF AS NYPD INTELLIGENCE?
THIS POSSIBLY CONFIRMS THAT NYPD INTEL (ANTI-TERROR) HAS INTERNALLY IDENTIFIED NY 911 TRUTH AS A "TERRORIST" ORGANIZATION. SELF-IDENTIFICATION AS INTEL THEN THREATENS APPLICATION OF THE PATRIOT ACT

THIS TOGETHER WITH APPEARANCE OF PROVOCATEURS SIGNALS RATCHETING UP OF ANTI-WAR, 911 TRUTH ACTIVITIES BY STATE SECURITY APPARATUS., PROVIDING FURTHER EVIDENCE IN CHANGE OF ALERT STATUS-POSSIBLE SECOND 911 COMING SOON?

ALSO INDICATES HIGH LEVEL DIRECTIVE TO INTERVENE AT GZ. SUNDAY LECTURE ATTENDEES SHOULD CONSIDER LEAFLETTING AT GZ.


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INFORMATION HERE IS AMALGAM OF FIRST HAND REPORTS NOT NECESSARILY WITNESSED BY ME.

PLEASE SEND ANY OTHER INFORMATION, CORRECTIONS, TO NY 911TRUTH.

RECOMMENDATIONS
cameras SHOULD BE AT GZ AT ALL TIMES TO VIDEO IF POSSIBLE POLICE INTERFERENCE IN CASE OF FALSE ARREST
SHOUTING OR ANY OTHER DISTURBANCE OF THE PEACE SHOULD NOT BE CONDUCTED
ONE MORE CAVEAT- SEE BELOW, NYPD INTEL WORKS CLOSELY WITH NATIONAL DRUG ,OTHER AGENCIES.
ANYONE BRINGING DRUGS TO 911 EVENT SHOULD BE ASKED TO CONDUCT THIS ELSEWHERE
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Note: no one was asked to be arrested. Although because I asked if they had any right to physically prevent us from putting up our own signs, I was a "f@@@ing Nazi."

Provacateurs! If only I had nearly as much power as these people think I have.
 
History Channel Feedback

Here are my two cents:

http://www.historychannel.com.au/feedback.aspx

Hello,

I have just learned that you intend to show the film Loose Change on September the 11th on your channel.

Loose Change is a pack of lies, intended to mock the victims of 9/11.

A guy called Mark Roberts has written a Viewer's Guide to Loose Change. He goes through the movie point by point, refuting every single false claim he finds.

http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html

I encourage you to read it, and maybe also the "Screw Loose Change"-blog, located at http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/

I know that my opinion may not matter much, since I'm up here in Denmark, but I think it's important to remember the events of 9/11 in a somber and dignified light, and not in any kind of sneering attack made by some in-informed college-students.

With regards,

Christian Andersen,
Denmark
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Not as eloquent as the others perhaps, but it gets the point across.
 
Abbyas said:
Apparantly, this "bulletin" has been bouncing around ny truther myspace blogs.
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These people are so paranoid it's funny. What is with the whole thing about the helmets? PASGT helmets have been standard part of dress for police SWAT teams the world over for years.

The New Zealand AOS (Armed Offenders Squad) have been wearing them for the better part of a decade.

-Andrew
 
THIS TOGETHER WITH APPEARANCE OF PROVOCATEURS SIGNALS RATCHETING UP OF ANTI-WAR, 911 TRUTH ACTIVITIES BY STATE SECURITY APPARATUS.,
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Yah, because "911 TRUTH" is totally the same as the anti-war movement.
PSSSHHTT.
And if Dylan Avery is the new Martin Luther King, does that make Alex Jones Malcolm X? Just trying to keep track here.

SEE BELOW, NYPD INTEL WORKS CLOSELY WITH NATIONAL DRUG ,OTHER AGENCIES.
ANYONE BRINGING DRUGS TO 911 EVENT SHOULD BE ASKED TO CONDUCT THIS ELSEWHERE
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They have to tell their goons not to consume and/or deal drugs at their protest.
 
Abbyas said:
On another topic.

Gravy, RealityBites and I are "provacateurs"!

Apparantly, this "bulletin" has been bouncing around ny truther myspace blogs.

Note: no one was asked to be arrested. Although because I asked if they had any right to physically prevent us from putting up our own signs, I was a "f@@@ing Nazi."

Provacateurs! If only I had nearly as much power as these people think I have.
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Funniest thing I've read in ages. Folks, you had to be there. The cops in question didn't pull up to harrass the Deniers. They patrol the area all the time, and there had just been a terrorist scare in England.

THEY SEEMED TO BUILD A DEFENSIVE PERIMETER OF CIRCULAR NATURE AROUND THE SENIOR OFFICER INDICATING A BODY GUARD FUNCTION.
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Translation: "They walked around in a random fashion looking at tourist chicks and trying to get a whiff of air conditioning from the van."

To emphasize what Abby said, before the cops came the DenierNazis had been physically trying to prevent us from exercising the same constitutional rights that they were practicing. Oh, the irony!

It's true that Abby didn't ask them to arrest anyone. She asked them to shoot the deniers, and requested that the dog be allowed to feast on their entrails.
 
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Gravy said:
It's true that Abby didn't ask them to arrest anyone. She asked them to shoot the deniers, and requested that the dog be allowed to feast on their entrails.
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Spoken like a true NWO shill.

:cry1

I'm so proud of you.

-Andrew
 
Abbyas said:
On another topic.

Gravy, RealityBites and I are "provacateurs"!
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Is that like a mix of "provocateur" and "provable", or something ? Or maybe "provider" pronounced with a texan accent. You DO provide the truth, after all, and you DO provoke critical thinking...

ETA: Oops. I thought the typo was in the original. It seems, now, that I've unintentionally made fun of Abby's english (or French, actually). Now I've done it!! :(
 
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I like you Abbyas. You are my kind of shillchick!
If I was twenty years younger I'd be hopping on a plane tomorrow and heading for NY just to watch you bust some nutters' nuts.
 
Re: provacateurs:

That is classical. These people think they ar part of some new "american revolution". It is like someone wrote this fantastic story they were reading and then they found this entrance into that world at the back of the coat closet (notice reference...:)).

The more authorities respond to them, the more glee they are in, because they get to FEEL IMPORTANT.

Poor pathetic individuals with nothing better to do with their lives IMO...
 
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Oh my,,,
One more thing.....do you think that these people who are out to "debunk",( i hate that word to D.A.) have been rewarded with a life of luxury and money for life for doing these deeds?

IMHO i think that people like this have, and are being blackmailed and bribed. I think many people have been setup with prostitutes,drugs,underage prostitutes..etc..etc and have mighty daming evidence(photos,videos) of the things they have done, and if they don't co-operate fully they will have their entire lives ripped apart. Much can be bought and paid for with a trillion and some budget!
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I feel so ashamed for picking up that undercover prostitute, now I can't blow the lid off this massive conspiracy... :rolleyes:
 
WildCat said:
Oh my,,,


I feel so ashamed for picking up that undercover prostitute, now I can't blow the lid off this massive conspiracy... :rolleyes:
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The conspirators got the power to bring people down with outlandishly improbable setups by bringing people down with outlandishly improbable setups.
 
many people have been setup with prostitutes,drugs,underage prostitutes..etc..etc
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ETA: Oops. I thought the typo was in the original. It seems, now, that I've unintentionally made fun of Abby's english (or French, actually). Now I've done it!!
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No more prostitutes for you!

If I was twenty years younger I'd be hopping on a plane tomorrow and heading for NY just to watch you bust some nutters' nuts.
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(Blush) And if I was twenty years older, I'd get ready to join AARP.
 
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rewarded with a life of luxury and money for life
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I was just thinking about this. I wonder what the LCers would say if they could see me sitting here in my diamond-studded solid gold hot tub, cracking open yet another bottle of Macallen Fine and Rare 60 year-old whisky, and admiring my vast collection of van Gogh originals while I wait for next week's supply of ethnically diverse maidens (to take me from this place to another place where I will be made to rest myself amongst sheets of muslin and velvet...)
 
WildCat said:
Oh my,,,
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Dylan Avery said:
Jason sent the PM team an invitation to a debate between us and them about a week ago.

No response yet. Hm. Odd. I thought they were the authority on "Debunking!"
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They'll challenge people to a debate who they know aren't interested, yet they refuse to debate when challenged themselves. What weaple (weasel people)!
 
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