Loose Change - Part III

[delphi_ote]

OK where should I start, I am going to just recap here instead of quoting each post because I am tired of being accused of trolling because I answer everyones questions/comments/complaints/insults.

Just in case anyone actually buys Ms. Innocent's "woe is me" story in this post, I'll point out that SBrown was suspended from the forum for a while for intentionally spamming the board with nonsense threads. She then bragged about being banned on Loose Change. As soon as she got back from her suspension, she started making off topic posts threads all over the board. SBrown actually wants to get suspended, wants to harass, and wants to be pitied whenever she gets called on it.

Notice that nowhere in her post does she mention 9/11. It's not really important to her. That's not why she's here. She wants pats on the back from the Loosers. She can't debate the actual issue at hand. She's trying every tactic she can to avoid discussing the facts. She knows she'll lose. Now she's rushing to find ways to look like a martyr, to find ways to be pitied, to find ways to make JREF look bad. None of them are working, because all the facts about 9/11 are out there plain as day.

She's trying to create a smoke screen so she can run away.

 

[NDBoston]

Where's my badge? I'm toast from LC. I'm guessing Dylan didn't like what I had to say about him.

 

[dubfan]

Tools. The only person on the board who actually worked in WTC7 and they ban you.

Sheesh. Like I'm surprised.

 

[WildCat]

Where's my badge? I'm toast from LC. I'm guessing Dylan didn't like what I had to say about him.

The thread that got NDBoston banned.

Nice work, the bans usually come right when you get them to the point of being forced to answer a question that makes the whole CT look like the complete loony nonsense it is.

I see our "pilot" friend ignored DavidJames questons as to when he last worked and when he will work again in that thread. IMHO he's a unemployed pilot wannabe who got rejected from the USAF but now spends all his time on the web picking up pilot jargon. Sad and pathetic, much like the rest of the loosers.

 

[realitybites]

Where's my badge? I'm toast from LC. I'm guessing Dylan didn't like what I had to say about him.

What the EFF? Why can't I get banned there? A nice two-day suspension, sure. But, I want an effing badge....

Congrats though NDB. Couldn't have happened to a better hive-member.

 

[WildCat]

The thread that got NDBoston banned.

Now Dylan himself has chimed in, claiming he wasn't making fun of the passengers, nosiree Bob. He was just mocking the official theory...

 

[Brainster]

Now Dylan himself has chimed in, claiming he wasn't making fun of the passengers, nosiree Bob. He was just mocking the official theory...

Uncle Fetzer seems to be picking up that scorn for the passengers from Dylan. He's said several times that if he'd been on one of those planes when somebody tried to take it over with a box cutter, he'd have grabbed his luggage and beaten the guy to death with it. He's also quite enamored of repeating Mark Bingham's "Hi, Mom? It's me, Mark Bingham."

I've commented on this before; it was Dylan's treatment of Betty Ong, Mark Bingham and Todd Beamer (in LCV1) that got me angry enough to start the blog with James.

 

[DavidJames]

Now Dylan himself has chimed in, claiming he wasn't making fun of the passengers, nosiree Bob. He was just mocking the official theory...

I've commented on this before; it was Dylan's treatment of Betty Ong, Mark Bingham and Todd Beamer (in LCV1) that got me angry enough to start the blog with James.

That's a point I've tried to make with them but like most, it was ignored or fell on deaf ears.

I'll repeat what I said earlier, I don't believe many of them are psychologically and emotional mature enough to understand the human implications of what they are saying. Those slugs have no qualms about accusing people of mass murder or complicity with mass murder, but heaven forbid you offend their sensibilities or they feel insulted at something you say about them, they whine and cry and go running to the mods. I say they run to the mods because of an incident that happened early on with me.

When someone asked if jenoballs was lying or stupid, I responded, both. I was warned by a mod. I accepted it and asked if DJRunaway was warned about an adhom of equal value. He asked for the thread, I gave it to him. Later I read a post by DJRunaway who said he doesn't post much in the skeptics forum because the mods are out to get him. I believe he was warned. So, I'm not sure the mods go through the threads looking for ways to ban, but seem to respond to cry babies (joedickX and jennoballs, I'm looking at you )

 

[dubfan]

Uncle Fetzer seems to be picking up that scorn for the passengers from Dylan.

 

[NDBoston]

I love the fact that John is now brave enough to say I worked in Boston instead of NY. He might want to do some research on where the actual software development was/is done in house for Salomon before and after the merger. It was New York and London.

I'm going to be at 9/11 in three months with the widows of three good friends from Cantor Fitzgerald. I recommend the "truthers" not say boo to these women because I will not take that very well.

There's no question in my mind that Dylan is using 9-11 to further his dream. Let's face it. He graduated in 2002 from high school and was turned down by a second tier film school. He was destined to work at the Gap.

It's been reported by Dylan that over 50,000 copies have been sold at 17.95 a pop. The cost of the film was $1500. That's 900,000 before counting t-shirt sales and the soon to be made windfall when the film hits theatres in September.

Sure, he's not in it for the money.

 

[Pardalis]

One more time SBrown.

What are the holes in the 9/11 official story that are big enough to make you doubt it?

Let's cut the BS and start the debate once and for all. No trolling, no spamming, no insults, no distractions. ONLY FACTS.

 

[twinstead]

One more time SBrown.

What are the holes in the 9/11 official story that are big enough to make you doubt it?

Let's cut the BS and start the debate once and for all. No trolling, no spamming, no insults, no distractions. ONLY FACTS.

I'm sure I can speak for the other lurkers and semi lurkers as well when I say I'll second that.

 

[Brainster]

I love the fact that John is now brave enough to say I worked in Boston instead of NY. He might want to do some research on where the actual software development was/is done in house for Salomon before and after the merger. It was New York and London.

I'm going to be at 9/11 in three months with the widows of three good friends from Cantor Fitzgerald. I recommend the "truthers" not say boo to these women because I will not take that very well.

There's no question in my mind that Dylan is using 9-11 to further his dream. Let's face it. He graduated in 2002 from high school and was turned down by a second tier film school. He was destined to work at the Gap.

It's been reported by Dylan that over 50,000 copies have been sold at 17.95 a pop. The cost of the film was $1500. That's 900,000 before counting t-shirt sales and the soon to be made windfall when the film hits theatres in September.

Sure, he's not in it for the money.

Ah, but if you read the Vanity Fair article you'll see that Korey Rowe has a response to that. They haven't been making any money because they gave away 100,000 copies of the DVD.

 

[mrfreeze]

Yes please, lets stop with the cheap shots and insults at each other and actually get some form of a debate on!

Why not offer SBrown the same deal that was given to DJwhatevertherestofhisnamewas? A completely seperate topic where her and someone (probably gravy) can debate the matter civilly? That way there will be no derailing or people getting blown tempers and getting themselves in trouble?

 

[WildCat]

Let's cut the BS and start the debate once and for all. No trolling, no spamming, no insults, no distractions. ONLY FACTS.

I'll lay off any CT'er who is willing to debate the facts and theories. But the next one to do so will be the first.

 

[Belz...]

CULT JREF 4 LiFE
Proudly Back at the Hive
MEOW!
One Day I WILL be a mod!

Boy, you ARE deluded.

 

[DavidJames]

Yes please, lets stop with the cheap shots and insults at each other and actually get some form of a debate on!

Why not offer SBrown the same deal that was given to DJwhatevertherestofhisnamewas? A completely seperate topic where her and someone (probably gravy) can debate the matter civilly? That way there will be no derailing or people getting blown tempers and getting themselves in trouble?

Already been done. Had read you any of SBrown/jenabell comments you would know that he is not interested one bit in debate.

Gravy's comments here about one such attempt at civility.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1754535&postcount=1645

 

[Belz...]

If there is such a strong case that the official theory is based on (they did pump quite a bit of money into a firsthand investigation) and they have proved their case beyond a reasonable doubt, why the need to constantly defend it?

Er... because it's beign attacked ? Sheesh. You're right. Defense attorneys should never speak in court.

Have we been so brainwashed with this false sense of patriotism we no longer can allow people the opportunity to question the government?

Are you really so blind as to think that everyone here lives in the US ?

Only believable by you.

Don't forget all those nasty structural engineers.

 

[Hutch]

Yes please, lets stop with the cheap shots and insults at each other and actually get some form of a debate on!

Why not offer SBrown the same deal that was given to DJwhatevertherestofhisnamewas? A completely seperate topic where her and someone (probably gravy) can debate the matter civilly? That way there will be no derailing or people getting blown tempers and getting themselves in trouble?

Would, but SBrown/jenabell is, IMHO, more of a 'fan' than a real reseacher--in other words, he supports the CT, thinks it is more accurate that current thought, and thinks highly of the "real truth" researchers over at LC. However, I don't think he is all that great at his own research--which is not a bad thing, I for example know a lot less on this topic than Gravy, MarkyX, dubfan and others, which is why I will tend to defer to them in terms of research and therory. I think asking SBrown to debate (for that matter, DJLegacy has not shown any great research abilities either) would be the same as matching me against one of the, for example, pentagon researchers over there. I might be able to pick some holes, but I would not have the knowledge to truly debate--and I am of the opinion that SBrown/jenabell is of the same ilk.

Now, if SBrown wants to propose some additional questions for discussion, I am all for it. Just do not expect someone with a first-level knowledge and reseach to be able to do more than they can.

What we need to do is attract folks like Russ Pickering, Merc (who apparently is no longer a Jerk), Sun Zoo, and even Killtown from LC to try out their therories over here. Mind you, I will be among those opposing thier views, but they at least have made some pretense at reseach and are capable of making arguments that they are willing to defend--even if we don't think a whole lot of said arguments.

All I am saying is don't expect more of SBrown that he is able to give. Call me a cockeyed optomist, but we might even get a fairly decent conversation started if given half a chance.

That said, I remain permantly suspended from my home computer (courtesy of The Quest) and will have to see if my work IP suspension (for unknown actions) ended come Monday. We shall see.

Press on.

 

[hellaeon]

I'm done over at the Loose Change Message Board.

It's full of mentally ill people who I want to punch in the face repeatedly.

hahaha been away for the weekend and catching up on a read.
Thats quite funny. I know the feeling.