Loose Change - Part III

[aggle-rithm]

Don't think you need permission if it's under parody law. Look at Wierd Al.

Although...this isn't exactly humorous, at least intentionally.

Since Weird Al's time, courts have gotten tougher on what is considered fair use of copyrighted material. It all depends on how the holder of the copyright feels about it.

 

[Pardalis]

From denythepain.com:

9/11 - Every Breath You Take, words by Steven E. Jones.

From cold fusion researcher to structural engineer to songwriter.

Is there anything this guy CAN'T do?

Get facts right.

 

[realitybites]

Get facts right.

Who needs facts when you're spreading so much joy and happiness throughout the world?

The man has singlehandedly turned my frown upside down.

 

[rikzilla]

I keep hearing this claim that the FBI recently announced that they have no information tying Bin Laden to 9-11. Does anybody know where this bit started? Considering Moussaoui's recent conviction it seems obviously nutty, but is there some basis in fact other than that the FBI hasn't updated Bin Laden's wanted poster?

Well,
They also state that the CIA has given up the hunt for UBL. Of course nothing of the kind is going on. The loosers have (willfully?) mis-interpreted a CIA re-structuring of anti-terrorism offices. UBL and AQ were once dangerous enough that there was an office dedicated only to them. Now AQ and UBL have been deemed to be (rightly or wrongly?) less dangerous and are now rolled into the general anti-terrorism efforts of CIA.

Obviously CIA has not halted the hunt for UBL...but the loosers are over there stating that FBI "has no evidence" and CIA "has called off the hunt for UBL".

They are not simply idiots...they are dishonest idiots. So there's likely some FBI quote taken out of it's original context that makes up the substance of this lie.

-z

 

[brodski]

Since Weird Al's time, courts have gotten tougher on what is considered fair use of copyrighted material. It all depends on how the holder of the copyright feels about it.

also weird Al was (is?) very careful to make music which sounded similar, but was not an exact copy of the originals. What he didn't do was use some crappy voice removal software on a bad remix of his targets songs, and then add his own lyrics.

 

[JamesB]

I hope the guys over at SLC will forgive me for boosting this from their comments section, but it was just too good.

One of the commenters links to this MP3.

This needs to be their anthem. Please God, make this their anthem.

PS - Do you think the singer got permission from The Police?

Go ahead, borrow anything you want, as long as you spell our name right. Off topic, but there actually is a good "Every Breath You Take" parody out there (OK, it helps if you are an MBA finance geek), but at least these guys realize it is parody. The Loosers are serious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u2qRXb4xCU

 

[Apollyon]

Get facts right.

OK. There is that niggling problem of getting facts right.

"Was thermite uuuuuused, and who set the fu-u-ooze?"



I need to strap on a double layer of Depends before I listen any further. It'd be a shame to have to go through so much underwear in such a short time frame.

 

[Brainster]

Don't think you need permission if it's under parody law. Look at Wierd Al.

Although...this isn't exactly humorous, at least intentionally.

The key issue as I recall from the Jibjab "This Land Is Your Land" lawsuit was whether the intent was to parodize the song or work in question, or to use the song to get across another message. Weird Al's stuff was clearly parody, as was (for example) Bored of the Rings. Unfortunately the Jibjab lawsuit was dropped, so I'm not sure where the line is.

Of course, Sting probably believes in this stuff, so it may not matter at all.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

I keep hearing this claim that the FBI recently announced that they have no information tying Bin Laden to 9-11. Does anybody know where this bit started? Considering Moussaoui's recent conviction it seems obviously nutty, but is there some basis in fact other than that the FBI hasn't updated Bin Laden's wanted poster?

I don't think it's actually relevant. Even if the FBI did say it.

The FBI says: "We don't have sufficient evidence against OBL for trial"

We hear: "The FBI doesn't have sufficient evidence against OBL"

The truthers hear: "The FBI says that OBL didn't do it and had nothing to do with it"

Wether the FBI said it isn't the issue. The truthers will read what they want to hear into simple statements and then repeat thier misreading as gospel.

Silverstien says: "Pull it [the firefighting team] from the building"

Truthers hear: "Blow the @#$%er up and gimme my insurance payout"

Besides, the FBI and the US Attorneys will likely never have to worry about getting OBL in a courtroom. When they located Zarqawi, US and Iraqi authorities skipped the arrest, arraignment, pre-trial motions, selection of venue, voir dire, and trial stages and had the air force come in and carry out the sentence.

I suspect Osama will get a similar laser-guided writ of habeus corpus.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

From denythepain.com:

9/11 - Every Breath You Take, words by Steven E. Jones.

From cold fusion researcher to structural engineer to songwriter.

Is there anything this guy CAN'T do?

I'd like to see him in a stare-down with Pat Robertson, you betcha!

 

[realitybites]

OK. There is that niggling problem of getting facts right.

"Was thermite uuuuuused, and who set the fu-u-ooze?"



I need to strap on a double layer of Depends before I listen any further. It'd be a shame to have to go through so much underwear in such a short time frame.

Wait till you get to the bridge...

People.... Sheeple.... PLEEEEEEAAAAAASEE!!

 

[Stellafane]

From denythepain.com:

9/11 - Every Breath You Take, words by Steven E. Jones.

From cold fusion researcher to structural engineer to songwriter.

Is there anything this guy CAN'T do?

I...I...I...oh what's the use, I'm speechless.

I would have bet my life that song was a joke, intended as a goof on the 9/11 twoof movement. And now I learn it was written by Dr. Jones himself??

I already knew that these guys were nuts. But I never fully grasped the depth and breadth of their collective insanity until I listened to that song, and then was informed it was a serious attempt at...something, I'm not sure what.

These guys have gone two exits past delusional, and have taken the off ramp to hard-core psychotic. "God is watching you" intertwined with "I'll be watching you." Perhaps in Dr. Jones' mind, the two phrases mean the same?

 

[Kent1]

I keep hearing this claim that the FBI recently announced that they have no information tying Bin Laden to 9-11. Does anybody know where this bit started? Considering Moussaoui's recent conviction it seems obviously nutty, but is there some basis in fact other than that the FBI hasn't updated Bin Laden's wanted poster?

This is where it came from
http://www.teamliberty.net/id267.html

However you can go here
http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Jan/14-610042.html

I suspect it just has to do with a formal charge

 

[Stellafane]

Wait till you get to the bridge...

People.... Sheeple.... PLEEEEEEAAAAAASEE!!

Hold on to your flaa-aaaagg....
Gypsy's on the ra-aaaggg....

 

[Abbyas]

Quick question for you people:

I heard that William Rodriguez was contacted by the NIST to testify but that he demanded thousands of dollars to do so and kept dodging them by changing his addess.

Is there any truth to that claim? He stops by the WTC on Saturdays once in a while and I'd love to ask him about it.

 

[DavidJames]

I'm finished having fun at loose change now.

While I tried to feel some pride in getting johndoeX and jenabell to make themselves look like complete idiots, I really can't since it was so easy. I liken it to making my cats chase their tails or get them running on my hardwood floors knowing they wouldn't be able to stop and careen into the foot of the cabinet (we were playing, okay, no one got hurt )

edit to add. jenabell, as I expected posted my comments. I'll summerize his response here...

Meow

 

[EvilBiker]

I'm finished having fun at loose change now.

While I tried to feel some pride in getting johndoeX and jenabell to make themselves look like complete idiots, I really can't since it was so easy.

Easy? All you actually had to do was watch them! They seem quite capable of being complete idiots without outside interference...

I applaud you on your patience, though - no way I could hang out there for any extended period without my brain falling out. Seriously, I find myself getting a sort of online equivalent of road rage (which I will suddenly copyright as Netrage - Ed).

I sincerely want to introduce those idiots to Michael Shermer's "Why People Believe Weird Things", preferably in bulk and delivered from about 100 meters straight overhead.

 

[DavidJames]

I sincerely want to introduce those idiots to Michael Shermer's "Why People Believe Weird Things", preferably in bulk and delivered from about 100 meters straight overhead.

I suggested on a thread that Shermer could use that forum pretty much exclusively as the basis for sequel.

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

Easy? All you actually had to do was watch them! They seem quite capable of being complete idiots without outside interference...

I applaud you on your patience, though - no way I could hang out there for any extended period without my brain falling out. Seriously, I find myself getting a sort of online equivalent of road rage (which I will suddenly copyright as Netrage - Ed).

I sincerely want to introduce those idiots to Michael Shermer's "Why People Believe Weird Things", preferably in bulk and delivered from about 100 meters straight overhead.

I find the section on Holocaust deniers to be particularly relevant.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Is anyone else disturbed by the fact the Loosers are trying to stake out Ken Lay's funeral?

Now where have I heard something like this before?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-249352731048492593&q=Phelps