Loose Change - Part III

[MarkyX]

Some people have asked me what kind of hate mail and threats I've received.

Hate Mail

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Jews made me flunk algebra in high school.

(Well, I didn't actually flunk algebra in high school -- but if I had, it would've been the Jews' fault.)

I did.

Here I always thought it was because I was wasting my time in the 7-11 across the street pumping quarters in the arcade machine and reading porn when the clerks weren't watching.

THEY have been hiding the 'truth" from me all these years.

DAMN YOOOOUUUUUUUUU!!!!

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Some people have asked me what kind of hate mail and threats I've received.

Hate Mail

Wow...

You should append that list to the end of the "LC Creators Speak" file.

And forward those e-mails to the FCC and FBI.

 

[rwguinn]

Loved this one:
"We live in a free country ******* and we have every right to question our government. You have no right to expose Loose Change for showing the truth."

Where is the irony smiliey?
and "Expose"?
Hmmmmm

 

[MarkyX]

Wow...

You should append that list to the end of the "LC Creators Speak" file.

And forward those e-mails to the FCC and FBI.

I tried to trace some of them but they used proxy accounts or free accounts like yahoo...

Besides, I take this crap with a grain of salt. It's like high school all over again.

 

[MarkyX]

Loved this one:
"We live in a free country ******* and we have every right to question our government. You have no right to expose Loose Change for showing the truth."

Where is the irony smiliey?
and "Expose"?
Hmmmmm

Yeah, some of the messages here that I posted are actually cuts from the actual letters.

Actual letters being too ****ing long to give a damn.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

Some people have asked me what kind of hate mail and threats I've received.

Hate Mail

Once again, who presented these people with diplomas at the culmination of their studies?

 

[Hutch]

Some people have asked me what kind of hate mail and threats I've received.

Hate Mail

Wow. I would report the one that threatened your children, though (even if it couldn't be traced--this is presupposing you have children). That one sounds quite past loony and maybe dangerous, if not to you then to others.

I doubt you have too much to worry about; reading those most of them wouldn't be able to find their way around the block they live on, much less find your place...

 

[MarkyX]

Nah I don't have children, at least ones that I am aware of

 

[Brainster]

Some people have asked me what kind of hate mail and threats I've received.

Hate Mail

Yet more proof that Bush/Cheney and company dreamed up a conspiracy so vast and so well concealed that only alienated white males of below normal intelligence could figure it out.

I've gotten a couple hate mails, but nothing as bad as that. Of course my advantage is that people have to be able to actually read to see what I've done.

 

[hellaeon]

Proving James' point, this guy became famous for his proof that wooden planes could not have crashed into a wooden World Trade Center. He's back with a scientific experiment that will both amaze and astound you. Do not miss this one! He's got photos this time!

Correction: This is an older post of his. But you will enjoy it if you haven't seen it.

hahaha I just am rereading a few pages to catch up and came past this gem hahahaha. Pure gold. This has to be someone making a joke. Surely you cant be that stupid. hahahahahaha!

 

[dubfan]

What "whistle blowers" by the way? Did I miss something?

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1717138&postcount=191

Daniels thinks we JREFers are all spooks. So he's trying to "turn" us, by telling us we'll be heroes if we blow the whistle.

 

[MarkyX]

Now this is interesting.

Someone linked me to a video game developer site where a looser posted "9/11 cover up" topic to gain new members.

I replied for the hell of it and the lead designer of the company posted this interesting gem that went through my head.

J.E Sawyer, lead designer of Obsidian Entertainment (NWN2) quotes

The people who made this video rely very heavily on people not stopping to read the additional text provided with their three-second screen splashes and fun facts.

E.g.: "Bomb sniffing dogs are pulled from the World Trade Center and security guards end two weeks of 12-hour shifts."

Additional text of note on screen for two seconds:

The World Trade Center was destroyed just days after a heightened security alert was lifted...

"Today was the first day there was not the extra security." [guard] Coard said. "We were protecting below. We had the ground covered. We didn't figure they would do it with planes. There is no way anyone could have stopped that."

Security guard Hermina Jones said officials had recently taken steps to secure the towers against aerial attacks by installing bulletproof windows and fireproof doors in the 22nd-floor computer command center.

It's potentially problematic to consider that the security leaving had been additional security added in response to previous threats. It sounds much more conspiratorial if the standing security force was reduced, which is what many probably infer from the narrator's quote. It's also bizarre that the 22nd floor had additional security added to protect the computer command center. If this were an "inside job", it would be moronic to ensure the safety of a communications center that could potentially send out messages such as, "Hey, bombs were rigged to go off in here." or to record footage of incriminating evidence.

Then there's the conspicuous absence of the date at which the extra security was pulled. The narrator doesn't mention the timeframe, but the guard in the article says that only a single day had passed. That leaves exactly one day for a crack team of demolitions ninjas to rig the entire building.

Of course, the most telling indicator of massive B.S. piling up is the narrator's almost continual use of the passive voice for every conspiratorial action mentioned. Forces "were pulled". Put options "were placed". Who did this? You get dinged for this sort of irresponsible junk on freshman papers, even in our crummy American colleges.

The Chicago-Tribune article quoted for almost every single one of the put option figures can be found here.
Please note the headline -- which isn't visible in the video -- "Terrorist trade probe widens". The article is about how security regulators are investigating the possibility that the terrorist groups who engineered the attacks were the ones who did the options trading to profit from their own actions.

The narrator doesn't assign agency to these events and excludes any contextual information that might lead you away from the conspiratorial conclusion he wants you to reach. He presents fun facts in a way that leads your mind down a logical path. But it's selective and often very misleading.

Hey, if anyone wants to swallow everything this dude throws out without following up in his sources, you can believe whatever you want to believe. But this is what I believe: there is no way that the administration that engineered and ran our war in Iraq to date possesses one-tenth the coordination and competence required to pull off the amazing conspiratorial feats suggested in this documentary.

Our government's IRS and Department of Education apparently can't figure out between both of them what my address is -- and they did this?! COME. ON.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1717138&postcount=191

Daniels thinks we JREFers are all spooks. So he's trying to "turn" us, by telling us we'll be heroes if we blow the whistle.

He "thinks" so, does he?

Goodness, is there no end to some people's believing something just because it occurrs to them? Y'know, with zero evidence to support the belief?

I was ruminating a bit on this today, and I wonder if we're seeing a byproduct of our times. When all the little children are told how wonderful they are in every way; everybody gets a trophy for participating, regardless of their demonstrated ability; teens are fed (largely by Madison Ave., and related forces) a constant diet of "your voice matters." In short, Western society has largely bred an "it's all about me" race of just-barely-sentient fools. Dismissive of higher learning, disrespectful of accomplishment, distrusting of whatever challenges their precious beliefs...because they're theirs. Egos fattened up to the point of obesity. Perhaps whence the term "fathead" arose.

I feel better now, thanks!

 

[JamesB]

Daniels thinks we JREFers are all spooks. So he's trying to "turn" us, by telling us we'll be heroes if we blow the whistle.

You know, these guys are just so gullible... I should tell them I have inside information on who blew up the WTC, but first I need $20,000 and 2 first class tickets to Maui to relocate and hide my identity. It might work.

 

[Gravy]

Interesting thread about mathmetician A.K. Dewdney, the "researcher" who "proved" that cell phones can't be used on airliners. Turns out he wrote a book about how statistics can be used to deceive!

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1746637#post1746637

 

[JamesB]

LOL That is too funny. The best example of this is the "study" showing how 100,000 Iraqis died during the first two years of the war.

http://www.slate.com/id/2108887/

78.5% of all statistics are completely irrelevent.

 

[Gravy]

Well, now, MarkyX gets hate mail, and I get traitor mail. Second one today, this time from Jason Bermas:

Like I have stated before people such as yourselves are revealed to be one of two things, government agents on a payroll or brainwashed morons who refuse to accept the truth. Have a Nice 4th of July, and remember you won't be portrayed as someone who just mindlessly let something happen in history, you will be portrayed as a Traitor to your own country!

My Reply:

Mr. Bermas, I have provided evidence of your mistakes. You have replied with opinions. You may be the most poorly-informed person I have ever encountered. Are you ever going to learn what critical thinking is? Remember, I offered to sit down with you and go over your mistakes on the 9/11 evidence.

I had a wonderful 4th, thanks. I spent it at the "Special Government Jamboree Camp" run by FEMA. We all had our injections at noon, then used our mind-reading TIVO implants to record the CGI-created launch of the fake Space Shuttle. Awesome chemtrails!

Seditiously yours,

Mark Roberts

 

[delphi_ote]

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1717138&postcount=191

Daniels thinks we JREFers are all spooks. So he's trying to "turn" us, by telling us we'll be heroes if we blow the whistle.

Didn't you know that clandestine operatives are all over forums these days? Rather than taking out your opposition with a sniper or a car bomb, you confuse them with the power of the internet. It's much less efficient and you're totally exposed, but such are the ways of the Globalist.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

Mr. Bermas,

...I had a wonderful 4th, thanks. I spent it at the "Special Government Jamboree Camp" run by FEMA. We all had our injections at noon, then used our mind-reading TIVO implants to record the CGI-created launch of the fake Space Shuttle. Awesome chemtrails!

Seditiously yours,

Mark Roberts

Comedy gold!