Loose Change - Part III

[JamesB]

Loosers freak out over Gravy. They are trying to figure out where he is hosting, like they want to hack the site or something.


http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=7411

This is a serious attack on our mission.

Cursing at this website won't work. Attacking the author won't work; never does. We need some serious efforts to debunk this attack.

Loose Change is hugely popular and that is great. Loose Change has a voice; a voice that needs to use its popularity to answer critics before the Loose Change critics gain a following.

Take a look at http://www.ccdominoes.com/lc/LooseChangeGuide.html

Don't let websites like this last. The BEST response is probably changing Loose Change in a way to silence this kind of website.

Oddly enough, we aren't trying to silence them. They are our best proof of how stupid they are. I want Jim Fetzer to make more speeches, not less.

 

[Gravy]

Loosers freak out over Gravy. They are trying to figure out where he is hosting, like they want to hack the site or something.

When you read further in that thread, it's clear the author is pulling their chains. Probably a JREF Ninja.

 

[Ducky]

When you read further in that thread, it's clear the author is pulling their chains. Probably a JREF Ninja.

I think you might be very surprised at how many JREF ninjas are serruptitiously inserting their jokes over there.

Or at least, how many socks we have over there.

 

[SRW]

I think the fact that these people are believing these theories is proof the ENTIRE EDUCATION SYSTEM is a failure.

I heard another speaker talk about how the buildings fell at the "speed of gravity" and received a standing ovation for that statement. I explained to the group that the building could not fall at the speed of gravity that it had to fall at 1/2 the speed of gravity * 2. as pointed out in Newtons special class of inverse proportions. Silence is golden.

 

[Brainster]

I heard another speaker talk about how the buildings fell at the "speed of gravity" and received a standing ovation for that statement. I explained to the group that the building could not fall at the speed of gravity that it had to fall at 1/2 the speed of gravity * 2. as pointed out in Newtons special class of inverse proportions. Silence is golden.

No, man, it fell faster than the speed of gravity because the implosion sucked the building down!

 

[JamesB]

My mistake then. With these people it is hard to tell parody from when they are being serious.

 

[Brainster]

The Scientific Method In Action

Proving James' point, this guy became famous for his proof that wooden planes could not have crashed into a wooden World Trade Center. He's back with a scientific experiment that will both amaze and astound you. Do not miss this one! He's got photos this time!

Correction: This is an older post of his. But you will enjoy it if you haven't seen it.

 

[karim]

Proving James' point, this guy became famous for his proof that wooden planes could not have crashed into a wooden World Trade Center. He's back with a scientific experiment that will both amaze and astound you. Do not miss this one! He's got photos this time!

Correction: This is an older post of his. But you will enjoy it if you haven't seen it.

That was hilarious.

 

[gumboot]

He's back with a scientific experiment that will both amaze and astound you. Do not miss this one! He's got photos this time!

That was ridiculous...

And highly amusing...

Thanks

-Andrew

 

[Belz...]

Yet people have a tendency to believe that they can determine events based on video footage - they see footage of events as being more solid evidence than any investigation.

Well, investigation is such a non-public process, right ? I guess they feel left out, and therefore it's suspicious.

 

[MarkyX]

Well, investigation is such a non-public process, right ? I guess they feel left out, and therefore it's suspicious.

It wasn't that non-public. Both Public and Government officials were at ground zer. Anyone who says that people were blocked off from Ground Zero are simply lying.

 

[gumboot]

Something I find curious about the new LCIII Trailer thingy that was linked to earlier...

One of the solid CT claims is that no criminal investigation ever occured - there were investigations into the building collapses, etc, but the govt. just came out and said Osama did it.

Yet, at the beginning of this new video they use press conferences with the Director of the FBI talking about the in depth and ongoing criminal investigation into the attacks and who carried them out.

So if "no proper criminal investigation" was ever carried out, why do they have video footage of the FBI talking about their investigation?

-Andrew

 

[MarkyX]

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=7415

How come when they get threatened that they get a news report

 

[Pardalis]

Proving James' point, this guy became famous for his proof that wooden planes could not have crashed into a wooden World Trade Center. He's back with a scientific experiment that will both amaze and astound you. Do not miss this one! He's got photos this time!

Correction: This is an older post of his. But you will enjoy it if you haven't seen it.

Oh my god!

He even says it did it twice!

 

[TheChadd]

I wonder if he burnt himself with the second experiment.

 

[Pardalis]

When you read further in that thread, it's clear the author is pulling their chains. Probably a JREF Ninja.

"Morequarky" at first seems reasonable, and willing to learn, but yet he keeps holding on to the belief of a conspiracy. He knows Loose Change is full of lies and mistakes, but he keeps holding on. I don't get these people.

And Jenabell's photoshop skills suck big time.

 

[Gravy]

So if "no proper criminal investigation" was ever carried out, why do they have video footage of the FBI talking about their investigation?

It wasn't just a criminal investigation, it was by far the largest in American history. The FBI alone had 7,000 agents on the case. Nothing has come anywhere close. The same CTs whine that the FBI took jurisdiction away from the NTSB...because it was a criminal investigation!

Here's a funny email I got today, apparently from a LC forum member (I've left his name out, but someone with the same name posts there).

Dear Mark

I assume you are a spook masquerading as a sincere individual.

What awaits you when you pass on? Is it the glory of someone who stood up to tyranny at the cost of their personal wealth, prestige and safety?

Or is it unending bitter regret that you could have stood for something but never grasped the opportunity while it was available?

I feel for you Mark. WWIII is within a few years of breaking out. Most of us
will die in that war. What will I see of you in eternity? A light-radiating hero, revered by all? Or a sobbing recluse filled with regret at the loss of a never to be repeated chance?

I say it again, whistleblowers are heros Mark.

My reply:

A spook? I'm a New York City tour guide, genius.

I notice that you didn't reply with anything that Loose Change got right and I got wrong. None of its supporters has. What seems to be the trouble?

I agree that whistleblowers can be heroes.

And people who choose to ignore mountains of evidence in favor of adolescent video-game fantasies, are they also heroes? People who lie about 9/11, are they heroes? Because those are the people you support.

Good luck with your apocalyptic paranoia.

-Mark "Left Behind" Roberts

 

[Gravy]

Proving James' point, this guy became famous for his proof that wooden planes could not have crashed into a wooden World Trade Center. He's back with a scientific experiment that will both amaze and astound you. Do not miss this one! He's got photos this time!

Correction: This is an older post of his. But you will enjoy it if you haven't seen it.

CTer: "We all know that it's physically impossible for an office fire to get hot enough to buckle steel columns and beams. It's impossible!"

JREFer: "Pssst! WTC 5, next floor to the top."

 

[DavidJames]

It wasn't just a criminal investigation, it was by far the largest in American history. The FBI alone had 7,000 agents on the case. Nothing has come anywhere close. The same CTs whine that the FBI took jurisdiction away from the NTSB...because it was a criminal investigation!

Here's a funny email I got today, apparently from a LC forum member (I've left his name out, but someone with the same name posts there).


My reply:

I wonder if this is the guy I referred to in my post here:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1745404&postcount=213

 

[Gravy]

I wonder if this is the guy I referred to in my post here:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1745404&postcount=213

No, that's a guy named Mark. I refused to "correct" my work because it was he who was completely wrong (Guess what? The towers didn't fall at free-fall speed!). I told him that if he didn't correct his error on LC, I would have someone publish the entirety of our email exchange on that site. He backed down and did it for me. Just another cowardly CT.