Loose Change - Part III

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This kind of false bravado cracks me up.

Anyone wanna bet that "the" zacks black belt is in bulljitsu?

Aaaannnd it looks like Jennybelle is flippin out over in loose screwsville. I think he's jealous cuz my pic prettier than all the other boys and I have bigger hooters than him. :p

One more thing...is Sword_of_Truth trying to make JREF'ers look stupid on purpose? Really nobody is that stupid. At least I nobody is that stupid unless being that stupid on purpose.

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=7171&st=30

If irony could kill...
 
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Aaaannnd it looks like Jennybelle is flippin out over in loose screwsville. I think he's jealous cuz my pic prettier than all the other boys and I have bigger hooters than him. :p



http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=7171&st=30

If irony could kill...
Since you still read these forums jenny, and you still have an active account here, why did you run like a sissy and then try to commit suicide by mod rather than defend your nutjob theories?

Show us you're not that man in the dress, but just like DJRunaway, Rox the Wonder Dog, and all the other loosers you just run away and hide rather than fight for your beliefs. Really sad.
 
OK, so he chooses the name jenabell on LC and Sylvia here. Anyone else spot a trend?

Not that there's anything wrong with it...
 
The animation is fantastic. I love the little drop down into the fish-eye lens...

Another thing to consider with these terrorists...

Some of them, at least, were Osama's prize Mujahedeen. They are hard, hard men, with many years of experience fighting first the Soviet Union, then whoever they felt like fighting. These are the worst combination - extreme religious fanatics, and cold hard killers.

I have this absolutely fascinating, and somewhat disturbing book called "On Killing: The Psychological Cost Of Learning To Kill In War And Society". One of the things it talks about is the "wind of hate" - the psychological impact of being the subject of hostility (for most people even just confronting their boss about a raise at work is too confrontational). As an example, he cites research that indicates that the vast majority of serial killer victims offered so little resistance they "virtually assisted in their own murders".

When a screaming fantatic, 1000 yard-stare killer Jihadist terrorist takes over your plane, the "wind of hate" would be pretty significant. Most of the passengers would probably be so psychologically traumatised by the mere PRESENCE of the terrorists that they were incapable of action (then add knives and maybe a few people with slit throats to the equation...). That is what makes the actions of the passengers on United 93 so heroic - they overcame that wind of hate. (And lets be honest, could they have honestly believed they had a good chance of success?)

-Andrew
 
So, as he sits in his seat with his nose buried in his comic book, the point of a boxcutter sinks into the throat of his unsuspecting seat mate, plunging through the flesh, muscle, and cartilage, pausing only slightly at the resistance of the pulsing artery, before severing it.
Hey now, I'm sure The Zack hasn't got time for comic books when he's fighting his two biggest enemies James Randi and the "NWO".
 
Not to derail, but I just got around to actually watching Screw Loose Change last night and I want to say congrats to all involved. The breathers in each section were probably all that kept me from bursting a blood vessel in rage.
 
Not to derail, but I just got around to actually watching Screw Loose Change last night and I want to say congrats to all involved. The breathers in each section were probably all that kept me from bursting a blood vessel in rage.

I love those breather moments :P

Onto something else. Apparently, a CTer actually did some proper research and guess what ladies and gents? "Pull it" isn't an actually JUST a firefighter term, but a demo term also

http://www.pumpitout.com/phone_calls/controlled_demolitions.mp3

But...when you look at the bigger picture, this point is rather moot.

A) What insurance scandel? WTC7 was rebuilt

B) If it's soooo obvious, why grant the money in the first place?

C) In my SLC video, I do show Firefighters also coining that phrase when they are looking at the burning building

D) Why demo the building several hours afterthe Two Towers collapse?

E) I don't remember Firefighters able to demo buildings.

But whatever, screw the facts. Making up crap can be so much more entertaining.
 
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I kid you not!

Heard it from a CT'er at ground zero.

The Speed of Gravity! That's how fast # 7 fell.

[mumbling]...stupid gravity and it's ridiculous acceleration. Damn! Damn that big bang and its symmetry-breaking and all the laws of the universe that came with it...[/mumbling]
 
Somebody named Mike Wilson put this terrific animation together, tying in the flight path, light pole damage and (in a particularly effective bit) the recent Pentagon video footage. Highly recommended!

That animation is wonderful. It sure shoots down the cruise missile myth. The missile would have had to zig-zag back and forth to hit all those light poles. I don't suppose its flight path would have been programmed for that.

Steve S.
 
[mumbling]...stupid gravity and it's ridiculous acceleration. Damn! Damn that big bang and its symmetry-breaking and all the laws of the universe that came with it...[/mumbling]

Hmmm... It does make me wonder what the terminal velocity of a World Trade Center 1 would be.
 
I just found this little gem by Jerry Pournelle (author:"Lucifers Hammer"with Larry Niven, "The Mote in God's Eye", "Man-Kzin Wars II").

I don't think I've seen the matter of controlled demolition boiled down quite so eloquently anywhere else.

I am neither an uncritical supporter nor a fanatic detractor of Bush, but I don't have to be either to question these papers. I will have a longer analysis another time, but begin with this:

The probability that the buildings were brought down in the pattern in which they fell is 1.0. Every explanation of the way they fell turns out to be a low probability event -- but the probability that one of those low probability explanations is true is one, because the buildings did fall in the improbable way that they fell.

Now: is it more or less probable that a dozen people were able to plant explosives -- at least a hundred pounds per building, and likely a lot more -- without being observed; that they were so expertly placed as to work perfectly, given the high level of expertise that it takes to do this; that despite the damage done by the fires, the preplaced explosives worked just right as planned; that someone wanted the buildings to fall straight down instead of toppling; that the wires and primacord connectors to the explosives survived the fires and went off in the proper sequence at the proper time; that the hijackers knew where the preplanted explosives were and struck the buildings in just the right places so that the buildings began to collapse at the floor where the airplane hit in both the main buildings; and that someone wanting to bring down the buildings and having the ability clandestinely to plant these explosives and their detonating circuitry and the primacord to link them in the right patterns would then take the trouble to hijack airplanes and use up good agents in order to hide the fact that explosives had been planted --- is all that more probable than that the darned things fell due to fires, and that jet fuel fanned properly with a chimney effect is just a lot hotter than we thought it would be?

Professor Jones says his is a simple and elegant explanation. I would not have said so. He posits a near perfect conspiracy, with no one observing the planting of the explosives and the stringing of wires: and this is simple and elegant? Perhaps so, but three can keep a secret if two of them are dead. And in this case if all those who planted the explosives died in the fires and crash, it was a very large sacrifice of trained agents willing to die for the cause.

Not, I think, so likely.

There are plenty of anomalies in the 911 building collapses, and having them fall in the way they did is a low probability event (apparently; I will accept the professor's word on that). But they did fall the way they did, and I don't find it more likely that the complex sequence of events that would have had to happen had there been hidden explosives took place. And see below.

http://www.jerrypournelle.com/archives2/archives2mail/mail388.html#911explosives
 
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