Loose Change - Part III

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Johnny Pixels said:
Sorry about this, but I've been banned from the Loose Change forum, but there's still a thread over there about what a monster I am. I know that Jenabell reads this because she keeps quoting my posts over there, making me out to be some kind of animal.
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Still waiting for her him to become a mod here. Or was that someone else ?

ETA: him/her thingy
 
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60hzxtl said:
So, as he sits in his seat with his nose buried in his comic book, the point of a boxcutter sinks into the throat of his unsuspecting seat mate, plunging through the flesh, muscle, and cartilage, pausing only slightly at the resistance of the pulsing artery, before severing it.

How long is your leg now "the" Zack?
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Doesn't need one. He's gotta lightsaber, I'm sure !
 
Our friend Gravy has got an invitation over at the Journal Forum:

Mark Roberts, Perhaps you would wish to join ST911. You should submit a letter of interest. Your perspectives are very interesting and informative. I would be intersted in hearing your theories on thermite/thermate cutting, free fall collapses and other aspects of 911. Why not lend your obvious expertise to the st911 forum. If it is your goal to "debunk" then certainly the group would benefit from your input.
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http://www.atfreeforum.com/911studies/viewtopic.php?t=6&mforum=911studies

Somehow I don't think he would fit in too well....
 
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Belz... said:
What the hell does that mean, anyway ??
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Apparently it started off as "May god blind me if it is not so", got contracted to "God blind me", then "cor blimey", and then just plain old blimey. An expression on a par with "Wow" or "my goodness". Well that's what it says here anyway. It's on my list of old English words and phrases to be pronounced in a comedy cockney accent for greater effect.
 
And on the subject of structural engineering, could someone please post to the LC boards under this thread: http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=7113&st=90

...and let Tweedledee and Tweedledum (Johndoe the pilot and Zack the karate master)know that an Associate Member at ST911 is one who does not have a degree in the listed field?

They are still missing that structural engineer.

Oh, be forewarned, humiliating JohndoeX is a banning offense over there.
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
He likely exceeds thier maximum allowable structural engineering expertise. :p
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According to them, they have thousands of structural engineers who support them. They are all just in hiding under the witness protection program.
 
Johnny Pixels said:
Apparently it started off as "May god blind me if it is not so", got contracted to "God blind me", then "cor blimey", and then just plain old blimey. An expression on a par with "Wow" or "my goodness". Well that's what it says here anyway. It's on my list of old English words and phrases to be pronounced in a comedy cockney accent for greater effect.
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Okay. Doesn't explain the "cor", though.

Thanks.
 
JamesB said:
Mark Roberts, Perhaps you would wish to join ST911. You should submit a letter of interest. Your perspectives are very interesting and informative. I would be intersted in hearing your theories on thermite/thermate cutting, free fall collapses and other aspects of 911. Why not lend your obvious expertise to the st911 forum. If it is your goal to "debunk" then certainly the group would benefit from your input.
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No offense to Gravy, but I would prefer to hear about thermite/thermate cutting from someone who is an expert in explosives, like Huntsman. I think that is a big difference between me and the Loosers. I prefer to learn from experts, and not think I know enough about things outside my field.

I don't know what they are talking about in this "free fall collapse" stuff. That is a question of fact, and I have never seen it established that the building feel at "free fall" in the way they use the term. I have seen estimates of the falling that range from 8 to 15 seconds, and the free fall is only at the low end of that range.
 
JamesB said:
According to them, they have thousands of structural engineers who support them. They are all just in hiding under the witness protection program.
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I was at Ground Zero on Sat. I met Jimmy Walker, who handed me a DVD, and says, "a million dollars if I can prove there were no explosives in # 7."

Or as it says on the DVD "Prove Explosives were NOT used THE $1,000,000 CHALLENGE go to. . . for details."

I said "you can't prove a negative."

He said, "Yes you can."

There was no place to go from there.

Me? Johnny Walker is more reliable. And you can put the cork back in it anytime you want.

eta: Freefall is not (popular not scientific term) Terminal Velocity. The way they use "freefall" is meaningless. Its even more fun to hear a ct'er say "at the speed of Gravity." another thing I heard on Sat.

Does anyone know if the speed of gravity is a constant, or is it effected by heat, moisture, or altitude? I'm just asking questions. . .
 
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pgwenthold said:
No offense to Gravy, but I would prefer to hear about thermite/thermate cutting from someone who is an expert in explosives, like Huntsman.
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I appreciate the compliment, but I want to reiterate that I am NOT an expert in explosives.

I simply have some experience and training with them, and access to various manuals and resources to give me more info.

Call me a well-educated layman, perhaps. Expert I ain't ;)
 
Oh bloody hell... Johndoes black hole of stupid is sucking the brains out of everyone over there.

All that had to survive intact was a single chip of static random access memory (SRAM).

The phone didn't need to be operational in order to get the numbers out of it.
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And of course that tiny circuit board survived and was found, but the buildings and surrounds were completely destroyed....gotcha.

I need to becaome a critical thinker too, it would allow all my stupid comments to have a defense.
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How does this idiot think that police bomb squads are able to recover fragments of bomb casings and detonators for analysis? And that's from actual bombs themselves, not just things nearby the bombs.

EDIT: Link to the thread despite the potential brain damage it may cause those who read it: http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=7378&st=30
 
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60hzxtl said:
They know everything:

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=7171
<<Heh... Box cutters... I have martial arts training so I would just kick the guy in the face... Honestly, what is longer, the leg or the arm+box cutter?>>

He's got martial arts training!

So, as he sits in his seat with his nose buried in his comic book, the point of a boxcutter sinks into the throat of his unsuspecting seat mate, plunging through the flesh, muscle, and cartilage, pausing only slightly at the resistance of the pulsing artery, before severing it.

How long is your leg now "the" Zack?

Hint: this isn't a math problem.
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This kind of false bravado cracks me up.

I managed a restaurant about 16 years ago that got robbed by a 16-year-old gang member with a gun. There was a lot of tough talk from people who weren't actually there and didn't approve of the manager on duty for just handing over the money. They said, "It was just a kid! I would have kicked his @ss!"

Sure you would. Never mind that a 16-year-old with a gun is far more dangerous than a 30-year old, since he never gives a thought to the consequences of his actions.

I also got a kick out of someone saying that if their life was in danger, they would fight! Never mind the fact that, at the time, the only way the passengers would have believed their lives were in danger was if they got within stabbing range of that blade.
 
Huntsman said:
I appreciate the compliment, but I want to reiterate that I am NOT an expert in explosives.

I simply have some experience and training with them, and access to various manuals and resources to give me more info.

Call me a well-educated layman, perhaps. Expert I ain't ;)
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Noted, but you still are far more edumacated on the subject than Gravy, who's extent of knowledge is, well, basically what you have taught him.

Again, no offense to Gravy, and, as I note, it is in fact a strength to defer to people who know more about the topic than you do (particularly when they provide the basis for their opinion; I was just thinking about this last night when thinking about A Few Good Men. The medical examiner gives his "professional opinion" that Santiago was poisoned, but found no poison on the rag or in the body; Bacon resorts to listing qualifications as the basis for the verocity of the opinion. The point is made that qualifications alone don't make the argument, and the strength of the argument depends on its merits, and not the person making it. However, it is also true that proper qualificiations are often important so that the person making the argument has sufficient knowledge about the subject so to know the issues involved. IOW, there is good reason to dismiss "qualifications" when an expert says, "This is my opinion" but can't provide a justification. However, if it is an issue of "dueling descriptions" of the same event, in that case qualifications are relevant because the address the knowledge base from which those descriptions are being made.)
 
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