Loose Change - Part III

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JamesB said:
There is no "wargames" MOS in the Army. If there were, I would have signed up for it. This is what too much drugs and alcohol do to you.
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Naw. I've done copious amounts of drugs and alcohol over the years and have no inclination towards woo-dumb whatsoever.

My guess would be the 'baby dropped on the head one too many times' theory.
 
Mancman said:
Logic? Who needs it!
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Don't you just HATE logic ? I mean, here you are, having your own private little fantasy about how the world works and how it all really makes sense and how you can take control of your pathetic life...

...and here comes that stupid logic to take it all away!

I'm going to hide under my bed, now.
 
JohndoeX at Loose Change said:
I have friends that died... many friends lost jobs.. in the thousands (im in the airline business), some commited suicide because of losing those jobs and their lives.. i have friends that are ill... and more friends at war dropping bombs on Iraq and Afghanistan... they want to know WHY... i want to know WHY... and we want FACTS! Not possibility.. not theory.. and not hypothesis...

GET IT?
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Wow! Some of his friends committed suicide because of losing their lives.

How sad for them.
 
WildCat said:
The astonishing thing is how the loosers don't get the joke (actually irony to illustrate a point), even after he admits it's a joke several times! Too many pulls on the bong makes for severe short-term memory loss I guess.
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I just read the whole thread, and all I can say is that I'm amazed that people this paralyzingly stupid could tie their own shoes, never mind actually operate a computer. I used to think the CT'ers who posted here, especially ChildlikeEmpress and SBrown, were some of the dumbest posters I've ever seen on an Internet forum. But compared to these guys, CE is at least average, and SBrown (preversely enough) could actually be considered "smart" by these low standards. The over/under for the average CT'er IQ can't be 90, can it? What a bunch of maroons...
 
Stellafane said:
I just read the whole thread, and all I can say is that I'm amazed that people this paralyzingly stupid could tie their own shoes, never mind actually operate a computer. I used to think the CT'ers who posted here, especially ChildlikeEmpress and SBrown, were some of the dumbest posters I've ever seen on an Internet forum. But compared to these guys, CE is at least average, and SBrown (preversely enough) could actually be considered "smart" by these low standards. The over/under for the average CT'er IQ can't be 90, can it? What a bunch of maroons...
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You've never read the Off-topic section of the World of Warcraft forums, have you?
 
Again Karim, your contribution is stunning!

It's chilling to see some of the highjackers in the same room as Bin Laden and his top croonies. I don't see how anyone can doubt that these guys are Al Quaida with your footage.

You definately have a keen sense of cinematic flow and rythm. But maybe it needs some more commentary on your part, wich might help understand the structure a little better, where the film is supposed to lead to. But overall I found it very impressive.
 
What do the Loosers think of the video Karim posted? I would love to see them try to explain it.
 
I was particularly interpelled by the part of Karim’s film where one of the hijackers is describing the four cases where Jihad becomes an individual obligation:

first: If the enemy invades any Muslim Land
second: When the two countries confront eatch other
third: If any Muslims is captured by the infidels
fourth: If the ruler commands it, going out to ight is compulsory.

This only further shows that the attack on America was a clear provocation, because all of these "cases" happened after 9/11, and because of 9/11.

It's also appalling to hear OBL accuse America of hating Muslims because it reacted promptly and harshly after the attacks of 9/11. As if Al Quaeda and the Taliban would have responded to diplomacy, as if their attack wasn't cruel enough, as if they had any right to kill 3 000 innocent people to begin with. These fanatics really see the world in a convoluted and up-side-down way.
 
Class said:
What do the Loosers think of the video Karim posted? I would love to see them try to explain it.
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The same way they explain everything else, "it was faked". We have a guy who posts regularly (too regularly for my tastes) who claims Al Qaeda itself is a made up Zionist plot. So are suicide bombers. Oh, and we gave Saddam his Scud missiles and armed the mujahadeen with M-16s, I especially liked that one.
 
The politics of the 'Scholars' for 9-11 truth.

It would seem that there is a bit of an unraveling. One of the members of Sf911T, brumsen, who is active on the bautforum, recently resigned from Sf911T after being suspended by the group's tyrant, Fetzer.

The announcement was made on the bautforum: http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=42548&page=6

He stated he was uncertain as to what caused his suspension, comments to Fetzer or setting up a message board to comment on the Scholars 'journal'.
I would likely say the latter as much criticism of the 'journal's' articles has been made on that forum.
 
Having a discussion on the ST911 journal forum with a guy who doesn't think the column in the first photo below was cut with a torch. This issue keeps rearing its ugly head, so I thought I'd post some other photos from the WTC cleanup of similar columns that were cut with oxy-acetylene torches. I encouraged him to contact one of the ironworkers' union locals if he still has doubts.

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I was trying to get an answer to how thermite cuts through vertical columns and doesn't just run straight down the side, with the help of this :
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Expert diagram. Except I've just got suspended for a month.
 
You have been suspended already? I haven't yet. I am expecting it moment after pointing out he was lying about PNAC.

http://www.atfreeforum.com/911studies/viewtopic.php?t=5&mforum=911studies

Remember, these papers were "peer reviewed" before they were published.

To add to gravy's post, the professor admitted to me in an e-mail:

Yes it is possible that you could make the angle cut like that and get the appearance observed. However why would you waste all that expensive procedure at an angle? It would be much cheaper to cut the column horizontally.
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But of course he then stated the exact opposite in the forum.
 
Pardalis said:
Again Karim, your contribution is stunning!

It's chilling to see some of the highjackers in the same room as Bin Laden and his top croonies. I don't see how anyone can doubt that these guys are Al Quaida with your footage.

You definately have a keen sense of cinematic flow and rythm. But maybe it needs some more commentary on your part, wich might help understand the structure a little better, where the film is supposed to lead to. But overall I found it very impressive.
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I kind of disagree with you there. Instead of adding some bias commentary like Loose Change or Michael Moore, we get the real meat into the matter. This is not what the author of the document is saying; this is what THEY are saying, with their own words and actions.

Although I'll admit that there is some points (such as the first video with the WTC in the background) was a bit too long. But it does sound a powerful message about the background and organization behind the attacks. This is something you will not see in a CT or the MSM. This is something that anyone who is either against or with the War on Iraq should take a look at.
 
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