Loose Change - Part III

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I have it uploaded, but I want feedback first before I submit it to the masses like YouTube and so forth.
 
Hutch said:
Hmmm, I knew Arkan was going to go, I won't know until tomorrow if they think I have crossed the line....
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Mine seemed to come out of nowhere. I didn't really post that much over there today. My warning level had been at 100% for weeks, but no reason was ever given as to why.

At least when I got warned here, I got a nice email from Darat I think it was.
 
It is the ultimate in hypocritical behaviour. Here we have a forum for a movie that criticizes the government of censorship, mind control, fear mongering, and police state creation, and yet now the monitors of the site are doing that very same thing. They are rounding up the names of those on the board that do not comply with the beliefs of the forum and the movie for which it was built, and then banishing them from the forum.

Sounds a bit like Hitler and his gang if you ask me.

Are Arkan, Hutch, and the crowd to be the Jews of the Loose Change Hollocaust.

Whats next, they start to spam your blogs and sites into oblivion.
 
realitybites said:
Mine seemed to come out of nowhere. I didn't really post that much over there today. My warning level had been at 100% for weeks, but no reason was ever given as to why.

At least when I got warned here, I got a nice email from Darat I think it was.
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I had no warning level. I'm pretty sure it was my reporting them to Invisionfree and posting the SS that did it. Oh well. As much as they like to think they're in a fantasy world, they're not and people won't let them get away with breaking rules/laws just because they want to do so.
 
Hollywood said:
What are the most popular forums? How big is the biggest one?
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Well, this site seems to indicate some mega-forums http://www.big-boards.com/ exist out there, depending on the topic.

IN the skeptic/atheist world, Internet Infidels (www.idb.org/vbb/index.php) has about three times the membership of JREF and the Bad-Astronomy-Universe Today (BAUT) has nearly 14,000 members.

But compared to other 'skeptic' sites (Skeptical Community, Skeptics.com. mu.nu, skepchicks, et. al.) I think the JREF is the largest of this particular subset.

Edited to add: according to that Big Board site, Randi.org ranks #1403 (out of over 1700) boards in terms of members, but climbs up to #594 in terms of total posts--so I guess we are a chatty bunch..
 
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There's already a Paltalk room called Room for Skeptics, which is usually open in the American evening. I think it's in the miscallenous section, but not sure (their sections are often a mess, to put it bluntly). You can always pop in there at first, and then see if you want to create a 11.09.-specific room with a skeptic angle afterwards.
 
More Moussaoui Trial Exhibits Released

Anybody want to split up the task of reviewing them for ammunition? There are over 1,000 pieces and some of them are quite large.
 
I have already reviewed the CVR transcript, and have used it to refute Fetzers claim that it is fake. He claims this, because he says the recording contains the voices of the vicitms planning to run the cart into the cabin door. In fact, this is an outright lie. None of the transcript (a legal document) states any of the voices indicating a plan to run the cart into the cabin door.
 
I am now dowloading the flight info data for all flights including passenger lists for all 4 flights...good evidence against "No hijackers on manifests" arguement.
 
T.A.M. said:
I have already reviewed the CVR transcript, and have used it to refute Fetzers claim that it is fake. He claims this, because he says the recording contains the voices of the vicitms planning to run the cart into the cabin door. In fact, this is an outright lie. None of the transcript (a legal document) states any of the voices indicating a plan to run the cart into the cabin door.
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Yep. Fetzer's been telling that lie for about a month now--the first I heard it was the Colmes interview. In fact, the only words we know came from outside the cabin are "In the cockpit. If we don't, we'll die!" (And can't you just imagine Dylan Avery mocking those words in LCFC?).

BTW, a decent resource is Democratic Underground's threads on 9-11. It's mostly the same stuff we see all the time, but the intellect level's a little higher than the Looser board (like that's a challenge) and there are a few solid debunkers--Boloboffin and Jazz particularly and even some reasonably intelligent CTers. The amazing vidcap of WTC 7 which shows the southside was first posted over there, as was Spooked911's Chickenwire Experiment. Lots of folks like Reprehensor and Killtown in a very public and heavily trafficked forum where they may find it tougher to duck questions.
 
Brainster said:
Anybody want to split up the task of reviewing them for ammunition? There are over 1,000 pieces and some of them are quite large.
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Damn, that is the motherload. But remember, there is no evidence connecting the 19 Arabs to the hijacking, Well, except for those hundreds of pieces of evidence which have obviously all been faked.

Now I guess I know what I will be doing tonight.
 
MarkyX said:
Not sure if this is viable evidence, but..

Microsoft Flight Simulator - Pentagon Crash.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWSc5V_Bwh8

...Hani was one crazy pilot if this simulator is accurate.
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I'd be curious to see a flightpath - the turn looked a lot steeper than I have previously heard. Would be interesting to see how the turn radius compares to the various hypothesis of the actual flight path.

It should also be pointed out that the actual Pentagon would be much easier to find than the pentagon in the flight sim - from what I could see the Flight Sim Pentagon blended into the randomly generated landscape quite badly, and also appeared smaller (relative to surrounding structures).

A quick glance at a satellite photo of DC indicates the Pentagon sticks out pretty well. (especially as it's surrounded by freeways).

-Andrew
 
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