Loose Change - Part II

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dylan avery at Loose Change forum said:
At this point the circumstances are as such:

1) The removal of some or all of the Naudet Brothers' footage from LC2E, which includes online versions
2) That's actually about it.
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I'm hoping this isn't quite true. To me, the most important part of this wasn't the copyright law, but the fact that they were using the footage to promote a viewpoint that is diametrically opposed to what the Naudets believe to be true and show in their own documentary. To me, it would be like someone using my pictures of my daughter's orphanage in China to try to document human rights violations that would result in the US bombing China. It would not be enough for the persons to cease using the pictures. I would require that they pay for national advertising detailing that they used the pictures without permission, and indeed against the wishes of the person who took the pictures.

Removal alone doesn't accomplish nearly as much, in my opinion.
 
Wusses!

Brainster said:
Note that on their website they're a little more honest about what's going on:

www [dot] loosechange911 [dot} com

We have spoken with the Naudet brothers,
and are fully complying with their requests.

So the triumphant tone at the LC forum is for show. They've really got their tails between their legs.
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Oh, so they were only joking when they were talking about standing up for the truth? C'mon, Dylan! Pur your money where your mouth is! :D
 
The_Fire said:
Email them. Include a description of the "movie" and what were illegally copied.

I think contacting Universal, whom bought Geffen, should do the trick in regards to Joes Appartment.

Universal Pictures
http://www.universalpictures.com/

COntact info:
http://www.universalstudios.com/homepage/html/contact_us/contact_links.html


Can't seem to locate their snailmail......
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my question was more along the lines of discovering which footage had been stolen and from who.
 
Well I managed to get banned from the Loose Change forum before I could even post here, so I can't go over there and look.
 
JamesB said:
Well I managed to get banned from the Loose Change forum before I could even post here, so I can't go over there and look.
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Wow, that's harsh. You haven't even posted here yet either!

Never mind, stick around here instead. And have a badge...
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JamesB said:
Well I managed to get banned from the Loose Change forum before I could even post here, so I can't go over there and look.
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Clear the invision cookies in your browser and you should at least be able to read the forums, even if you can't post.
 
JamesB said:
Well I managed to get banned from the Loose Change forum before I could even post here, so I can't go over there and look.
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You mean you didn't even post and you got banned?? That must be a first! You must not have said something really wrong in your non-post.:boggled:

Welcome to this forum. Keep your non-posts in check buddy.;)
 
Pardalis said:
You mean you didn't even post and you got banned?? That must be a first! You must not have said something really wrong in your non-post.:boggled:

Welcome to this forum. Keep your non-posts in check buddy.;)
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Actually:
I wasn't even allowed to register...
something about being a structural engineer...possibly calling Alek and his ilk idiots...
 
dubfan, sorry for the delay (In a useless meeting all day) but your reply to chucklehead has been posted.

I know it's not 9-11, but the pasting the Moon Hoaxer CT'ers are taking there is causing me great pleasure (since that was the CT that took me to Bad Astronomy which eventually led me to the JREF).

Press on.
 
dylan avery said:
ok guys, it's come to my attention that mrs. smith has been receiving threats. like, serious threats.

i put up the lawsuit so people would know what was going on, not so people could e-mail her threatening letters.
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The only message on the welcome page, preceeding the law firm's letter, was "Happy Memorial Day from the Naudet Bros." Seems provocative to me, but I could be wrong. However, thinking things through doesn't seem to be the lad's strong suit.

i just sent her my sincerest apologies, with a promise to put a halt to this behavior, which I shall re-iterate:

Do not contact Lisa Davis. She does not need this; she was just doing her job. So please leave her alone. We are all mature, rational people...
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"Mature, rational people?" Spare me.

...and we are going to work this through as such.

At this point the circumstances are as such:

1) The removal of some or all of the Naudet Brothers' footage from LC2E, which includes online versions
2) That's actually about it. We're doing everything within our power to comply, now that we have spoken to all parties concerned and are much more informed as to the situation. So for now, again, leave them alone, and I'll keep you posted as always.
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Joy. As such.

kookbreaker said:
Seems like ol' Dylan is a-learning that running a cult isn't all fun n' games!
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I suspect you're entirely correct.
 
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Belz... said:
Plus... these guys seem to claim that the WTC attack was for maximum damage and "terror" effect, then turn around and say the pentagon attack was delivered for MINIMAL losses. Contradiction ?
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Actually, just to be nitpicking here, I can in fact see a miniscule of logic here. Let's look at it this way:

"They" completely ruined the WTC for all the maximum damage and terror and all that jazz. Since "they" don't operate or have many top people inside the WTC, "they" are quite happy about that.

On the other hand "they" do have a lot of top people within the American Army and whatnot, and thus, "they" attacked the Pentagon in a manner that wouldn't completely destroy it, just give enough of a show to convince people that even Pentagon was targeted. Because they still want to be able to use most of it afterwards for all their conspiracies and plots and secret missions and toga parties and whatever.

Of course, just because it's not self-contradicting doesn't mean it's true. ;)
 
bob_kark said:
Apparently Tampa Bay wins them all once the MLB finally institutes full scale steroid testing.
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Now THAT would require a conspiracy beyond anything the world has ever known!

Could someone get around to a controlled demolition of that godawful dome they play in? I'm willing to pay overtime for it, and maybe a free trip to our headquarters in Atlantis.

eta: of course, as always, make it look like al Qaeda's doing.
 
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Hawk one said:
Actually, just to be nitpicking here, I can in fact see a miniscule of logic here. Let's look at it this way:

"They" completely ruined the WTC for all the maximum damage and terror and all that jazz. Since "they" don't operate or have many top people inside the WTC, "they" are quite happy about that.

On the other hand "they" do have a lot of top people within the American Army and whatnot, and thus, "they" attacked the Pentagon in a manner that wouldn't completely destroy it, just give enough of a show to convince people that even Pentagon was targeted. Because they still want to be able to use most of it afterwards for all their conspiracies and plots and secret missions and toga parties and whatever.

Of course, just because it's not self-contradicting doesn't mean it's true. ;)
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The CTs always leave flight 93's destination out of that equation. Wonder why?
 
Regnad Kcin said:
The only message on the welcome page, preceeding the law firm's letter, was "Happy Memorial Day from the Naudet Bros." Seems provocative to me, but I could be wrong. However, thinking things through doesn't seem to be the lad's strong suit.


"Mature, rational people?" Spare me.


Joy.


I suspect you're entirely correct.
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Ballsy and stupid of these folks to send threats to an ATTORNEY.

This appears to be the crumbling of the house for Avery. All I need is a tub of popcorn, and I'll be set to watch this downward spiral...
 
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