Loose Change - Part II

[WildCat]

Ever heard of COINTELPRO? Read the stories in the NYT about the government spending huge amounts of money producing fake news?

Could you link to the article?

eta: You can't link yet, just leave out the "www" part and spell the dot or something.

 

[Ducky]

Ever heard of COINTELPRO? Read the stories in the NYT about the government spending huge amounts of money producing fake news?

As you folks spend your days talking about "woo"'s, i'm sure you know John Gray, the author of "men are from mars, women are from venus". Did you know that he is associated with the shadowy Adnan Khashoggi? The "Iran-Contra"-Khashoggi? The "Genesis Intermedia" Khashoggi? Did you know he sponsored a 9/11-Conference back in 2004?

Ever thought about why it was "Loose Change" that revealed the existence of the 9/11-"CT" to you? It's not only because you or your friends heard about Sheen and the other "nutters" on CNN. People like Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, Jack Blood, Dave von Kleist etc did the promotional prework. People who are associated with GCN, the influential "Genesis Communication Network" (*ring ring*).

Do you know who the last owner of the "twin"-machine of the plane that was lately busted in mexico with 5.5 tons of cocaine was? Right, Adnan Khashoggi. And who is the owner of the busted plane? "Nobody knows".

Perhaps some of you noticed that f.e. wtc7.net warned back in August 05 about Loose Change and how it will get "debunked". You did a good job, brave citizens that you are.

And did you notice that there is - beside folks like you - another topic that gets frequently deleted or ridiculed over at the Loose Change-Forum? That's the work of people like Daniel Hopsicker. Read the sticky thread "Everybody's gotta learn sometime" at their "Investigate 9/11"-Subforum and see how the notorious "TheQuest" and "datars" are behaving.

Think about it, folks. Critical.

P.S. And make sure you watch "Who killed John O'Neill" (wkjo.com) and read some articles on Hopsickers site madcowprod.com, especially the three part series "COINTELPRO 9/11" in the archives.

P.P.S. Your smilies suck.

Ever hear of Charles Manson? Or the Beach Boys? Well Sharon Tate was friends with Abigail Folgers who also hung out in the studio with the Beach boys during recordings of Pet Sounds.

It's obvious that Brian Wilson had Sharon Tate and Abigail Folgers murdered because they criticized his work! And this is a massive conspiracy to cover up that Brian Wilson didn't record that music or write it at all! He had Chuck Berry ghost write and record everything! WAKE UP! USE YOUR CRITICAL THINKING! CHUCK BERRY ORDERED BRIAN WILSON TO HAVE THE MANSON FAMILY MURDER SHARON TATE AND ABIGAIL FOLGERS! The Manson family tried to cover it up with the Labianca murders and disguise it as racial hate crimes too.


OR....


A coincidence is just a coincidence, and Charles Manson's presence at the Beach Boy's house and recording studio was a short lived freak occurence.



Are you getting my point?

 

[Gravy]

coincidence is just a coincidence, and Charles Manson's presence at the Beach Boy's house and recording studio was a short lived freak occurence.

Manson was the only one who could make Mike Love look good.

 

[Ducky]

Manson was the only one who could make Mike Love look good.

 

[Axiom_Blade]

Ever heard of COINTELPRO? Read the stories in the NYT about the government spending huge amounts of money producing fake news?

I thought COINTELPRO was done to discredit activists. They weren't paid to go around bad-mouthing the government, they were agents provocateurs in activist groups. Am I wrong?

I would be interested in seeing those stories from NYT, though.

Ever thought about why it was "Loose Change" that revealed the existence of the 9/11-"CT" to you?

Actually, in my case, it was my roommate, who, about 2 weeks or so after 9/11, brought it up casually in a conversation. "Yeah, I heard from a friend that Bush knew all about 9/11 before it happened."
Yup, they kept it all under wraps up until 9/11, but after that my freakin' roommate knows about it! (I should've asked her if her friend worked for the CIA, or something.)

"Heard it from a friend" flags it as an urban legend. As far as I can see, that's all it still is. Just an urban legend that some people have put a LOT of time and money into.

So, a question about these disinfo campaigns:
Why did we never hear:
"Bush is doing illegal wiretaps! Under orders from space aliens!"
or
"Torture is rampant at Abu Ghraib! And all the torturers are vampires working for the military!"

 

[Childlike Empress]

@WildCat: visit stopfakenews . org There are a lot of links on the frontpage.

Are you getting my point?

Yeah, you don't know what i'm talking about.

Should I know what the hell John Gray has to do with any of this?

Can you be more direct?

Please read:
madcowprod.com/mc6612004.html
madcowprod.com/mc6712004.html
madcowprod.com/MC6812004.html

Please try to make your posts coherent.

Sorry for my weak english.

I have to go to work now. See you later.

 

[CptColumbo]

Did you know that John Gray has a mail-order PHD?

 

[Gravy]

Please read:
madcowprod.com/mc6612004.html
madcowprod.com/mc6712004.html
madcowprod.com/MC6812004.html

By "more direct," I was hoping for an explanation in your words. Your post is less direct.

 

[bob_kark]

Please read:
madcowprod.com/mc6612004.html
madcowprod.com/mc6712004.html
madcowprod.com/MC6812004.html

Okay... this is all I could find:

Next Monday in pt II of COINTELPRO 9.11 we'll learn the truth about cultish involvement in 9/11 flourishing under the not-so-invisible hand of corrupt Saudi billionaire Adnan Khashoggi, as well as a few closely-guarded secrets of controversial author John Gray, including his bizarre connection to uber-UFO Cult Leader Marshal (“Just DO it”) Applewhite, leader of the Heaven’s Gate cult which committed suicide in Rancho Santa Fe, Ca. in March of 1997.

It seems to be two seperate subjects. I suppose we'll have to wait until Monday to be sure though. Until then, I'm still wondering what this link has to do with anything you're talking about.

Sorry for my weak english.

I have to go to work now. See you later.

Oh, I understand now. Is it possible you misinterpreted the information you read on the website you linked?

 

[WildCat]

@WildCat: visit stopfakenews . org There are a lot of links on the frontpage.

OK, so the Washington Post ran a story that the Bush admin. sent anti-drug storys to be aired by news orgs. w/o revealing that it was a gov't story?

Is this supposed to be one of those connect-the-dot moments CT'ers use where I'm supposed to slap myself on the forehead and say "omg Bush totally blew up the WTC and the Pentagon and kidnapped flight 93 and blew up a missile in Shanksville!!111!!!!111!!!"?

You need to do better as far as tying this to 9/11. There is a thread on this somewhere in the Politics forum if you want to post about that.

 

[CptColumbo]

The anti-semitic stuff on the LC forum is just sickening me. I can't even post on those threads, because I would have to read them through first. I can't even joke about it. I didn't think I would find something on that site more offensive than the mocking of 9-11 victims, and once again they rose to the occasion.

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

Ever heard of COINTELPRO?

Yes

...As you folks spend your days talking about "woo"'s, i'm sure you know John Gray, the author of "men are from mars, women are from venus".

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/00...f=pd_bbs_1/102-7358777-5680914?_encoding=UTF8

Did you know that he is associated with the shadowy Adnan Khashoggi?
The "Iran-Contra"-Khashoggi?

http://www.nndb.com/people/321/000024249/
How is he associated?

The "Genesis Intermedia" Khashoggi?

http://www.business.com/directory/a...ing/agencies/genesis_intermedia,_inc/profile/
Evidence Khashoggi is tied to Genesis Intermedia?

Did you know he sponsored a 9/11-Conference back in 2004?

Evidence? Purpose of said conference?

Ever thought about why it was "Loose Change" that revealed the existence of the 9/11-"CT" to you?

It wasn't; it's merely be a high visibility point as of late.

It's not only because you or your friends heard about Sheen and the other "nutters" on CNN. People like Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, Jack Blood, Dave von Kleist etc did the promotional prework.

And?

People who are associated with GCN, the influential "Genesis Communication Network" (*ring ring*).

http://www.gcnlive.com/

Do you know who the last owner of the "twin"-machine of the plane that was lately busted in mexico with 5.5 tons of cocaine was?

What is a "'twin'-machine"? Evidence of this bust? Evidence of connection to said machine?

Right, Adnan Khashoggi. And who is the owner of the busted plane? "Nobody knows".

What plane?

Perhaps some of you noticed that f.e. wtc7.net warned back in August 05 about Loose Change and how it will get "debunked".

Link? Relevence?

You did a good job, brave citizens that you are.

Your point?

And did you notice that there is - beside folks like you - another topic that gets frequently deleted or ridiculed over at the Loose Change-Forum? That's the work of people like Daniel Hopsicker.

This person? http://www.cia-drugs.com/symposium/speakers/hopsicker/
And your point?

Read the sticky thread "Everybody's gotta learn sometime" at their "Investigate 9/11"-Subforum and see how the notorious "TheQuest" and "datars" are behaving.

To what end?

P.S. And make sure you watch "Who killed John O'Neill" (wkjo.com) and read some articles on Hopsickers site madcowprod.com, especially the three part series "COINTELPRO 9/11" in the archives.

For what purpose?

 

[WildCat]

I bet Kevin Bacon killed John O'Neill...

 

[bob_kark]

The anti-semitic stuff on the LC forum is just sickening me. I can't even post on those threads, because I would have to read them through first. I can't even joke about it. I didn't think I would find something on that site more offensive than the mocking of 9-11 victims, and once again they rose to the occasion.

Do you have a link by any chance? I must've missed this one. Thanks in advance.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Bob, i "linked" three articles. Part I-III. Part III is the most relevant in case of the Genesis-Connection:
madcowprod.com/MC6812004.html

The NYT-Article is mirrored here:
media-alliance.org/article.php?story=2005040521384746

Arkan_Wolfshade, i answer later.

 

[bob_kark]

Bob, i "linked" three articles. Part I-III. Part III is the most relevant in case of the Genesis-Connection:
madcowprod.com/MC6812004.html

Ah, I thought you were just being repetitive, some posters have nasty a habit of doing so. My appologies.

 

[CptColumbo]

Bob
This is one:
http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=5890&st=0&#entry5145809

Gravy posted some more earlier. This one is tame in comparison to some of the others.

 

[RandFan]

Think about it, folks. Critical.

Ever hear of stringing together lots of disparate information, anything with even the most tenuous of links to create a theory without any evidence? It's what conspiracy theorists do. Ever wonder why most rational people look into it, consider it and then move on? It's called reason. Look into it.

 

[RandFan]

Bob
This is one:
http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=5890&st=0&#entry5145809

Gravy posted some more earlier. This one is tame in comparison to some of the others.

It's disgusting.

 

[Pardalis]

Childlike Empress, I have read your links.

Don't take this wrong but I fail to see what all this has anything to do with Loose Change and the Conspiracy Theories concerning september 11 2001.

Maybe you could clarify.

Thanks.